3 turds plus cranky honker don’t say roster management edition

[Booch]

12 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

Honestly, I think there’s a couple different angles that show Walter’s and co were the ones that truly ****** this up. 
 

We were good because A: The front office went balls deep in FA over 2016-19. Harris, Prime (or close to it) Bighill and Jefferson, Rose, etc 

Also did a good job bringing in spare parts from other teams who had value (Nick Taylor, Darby, Maston) which we don’t really do anymore. 

B: We had guys from the Rigmaiden/Craig Smith pipeline coming through until 2021. (Lawler, Jeffcoat, Alford, Nichols to name a few.)

Not sure if it lines up exactly with Rigmaiden leaving but the American scouting started to drop a dook after 2022 and never really recovered. We just kept letting good players walk and replacing them with nothing and nobody. 

The DT spot is a microcosm. Let Stove walk, replace with slightly worse Sayles. Let Sayles walk, replace with slightly worse Ricky Walker, let him go and so on. 

Drafting has generally sucked too. No real impact players over the last 4 seasons. Now we just draft maybe 1 OL, a slower WR or 2 and a bunch of Jessie Briggs reincarnations per year. 

Yeah...kinda sums up a lot...also tho the reluctance to unseat a vet...hasn't helped...and just gradually eroded us away to where we are...as we didnt draft/recruit or develop...and then play a incumbant/transition piece...ones we did we let walk..and for peanuts really...or ones that needed a bump in pay we refused as we figured we were good and could just use a slug we've held on to...or look like the smartest guy in room and reinvent a retread...and for most part our draft strategy of late has sucked

Guys oozing with athleticism and potential we draft we just waste or stunt (Shay..Smith...MCI...Samson..Eli..Rene....even Clercius as if Woli never got hurt he would havnt got a chance)

 

[do or die]

2 hours ago, Booch said:

yeah case is just an average run of the mill unspectacular guy...if thats our best "depth" piece we need some serious work...he did nothing to earn a spot....looked the same as last yr...and in 2 T.C's....hard pass

as much as many love T.Jones and Kramdi....neither are starter quality and have gapping holes in their game...thos are 2 prime examples of guys who would be top notch "depth" guys.....Too bad Osh doesnt see it that way...I'm not for getting rid of them but they arent starters

 

Jones can come up on straight a/b run plays.....but has little range or closing speed.....can't stay with anyone in the passing game.  Truth is...that our Linebacker crew is just too damn slow, compared to some other teams....

Edited 11 hours ago by do or die

[Stickem]

IF this is what we have to look at the rest of the year....we're in for a lot of hurt....What the hell is this Bridges kid doing on the club....We could have done a helluva lot better in fa and yet we sat on our asses and did nothing....Speaking of fa, it seems like a lot of heart and talent went out the door with a huge big bad smell coming the other way...Mitchell who doesn't know if he can or will play...Logan limping in and hasn't seen any action yet while our return guy (I use that word lightly) is doing his best impression of a fish out of water with his five yards and flop....I can't make a case for Case...showed a flash but in the end looked like it was coming from a pan...Willie J....what the hell was he thinking taking that cheap shot and a bad penalty at the worst time ...Frustration???...but not as frustrated as the fans who paid to see that junk....Outside of Brady, Demski and Castillo I find it very hard to single out any player worthy of a positive mention...There needs to be some soul searching before the next game...player wise and coaching or this could get worse....In the final analysis of these last two games...it appears too much talent has exited and what we have secured in return is just not cutting it.....We need some drastic change or this season is going to turn into one helluva failure AND in a Cup year at home no less..................................

[JohnnyAbonny]

Case is basically Sterns with slippery cleats. Just another midget with good but not great speed. Dime a dozen. 

[rebusrankin]

Worst wr group in the CFL. Linebackers average at best, Dline is it the worst? Bottom 3? Is the OC over his head?

[Tracker]

2 hours ago, Stickem said:

IF this is what we have to look at the rest of the year....we're in for a lot of hurt....What the hell is this Bridges kid doing on the club....We could have done a helluva lot better in fa and yet we sat on our asses and did nothing....Speaking of fa, it seems like a lot of heart and talent went out the door with a huge big bad smell coming the other way...Mitchell who doesn't know if he can or will play...Logan limping in and hasn't seen any action yet while our return guy (I use that word lightly) is doing his best impression of a fish out of water with his five yards and flop....I can't make a case for Case...showed a flash but in the end looked like it was coming from a pan...Willie J....what the hell was he thinking taking that cheap shot and a bad penalty at the worst time ...Frustration???...but not as frustrated as the fans who paid to see that junk....Outside of Brady, Demski and Castillo I find it very hard to single out any player worthy of a positive mention...There needs to be some soul searching before the next game...player wise and coaching or this could get worse....In the final analysis of these last two games...it appears too much talent has exited and what we have secured in return is just not cutting it.....We need some drastic change or this season is going to turn into one helluva failure AND in a Cup year at home no less..................................

I hear your pain, but it seems to me that where the team has devolved to is dire enough that there is little to no hope of hosting the Grey Cup. Instead, barring an act of God, the best the Bombers can do is make the playoffs, even if O'Shea and maybe even Walters are canned.  There is no point in trying to assess new player talent if they never get a chance to prove themselves in games. 

[HardCoreBlue]

3 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

Case is basically Sterns with slippery cleats. Just another midget with good but not great speed. Dime a dozen. 

Magic feet my friend. Magic feet.

[JohnnyAbonny]

5 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Magic feet my friend. Magic feet.

“ Hey Fotty, know what this kid needs for his first start of the year? A pair of wet crocs”

[voodoochylde]

8 hours ago, Atomic said:

Being in the stands for this one really gave me 2013 vibes. Beautiful stadium full of fans ready to party and the team just doesn't even show up. So disappointing.

It’s showings like this that cost the club A LOT of good will.

[3rdand1.5]

There were so many vital mistakes, mistakes a team should not be making in it's 5th game. D-line coming clean through the A gap against us, Holm covering two receivers with no help, Bridges stopping and letting his guy blow by him, Forced balls from QB's, receivers falling down, selfish penalties, apparent lack of energy.........

 

Even with all that our offence while bad almost had enough to take the lead in the second half.....I really like Strev but that pick was the end of the offence last night...all the wind came outta the sails right then....on offence we had our top OL out, our top receiver out, and lost our top QB early......at least one can make an excuse for them...the defence though....all healthy...and all terrible....I can't name one defensive player from last night worth praising.....not one.....at least on offence you can say Demski and Brady played damn good, on specials Castillo played damn good, our coverage was good, and Vaval and Case looked capable at returns....that's it, maybe the long snapper.....even the whole energy and aura looked bad last night.....it ruined what something like a 17 game win streak after the bye......yuck

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, 3rdand1.5 said:

There were so many vital mistakes, mistakes a team should not be making in it's 5th game. D-line coming clean through the A gap against us, Holm covering two receivers with no help, Bridges stopping and letting his guy blow by him, Forced balls from QB's, receivers falling down, selfish penalties, apparent lack of energy.........

 

Even with all that our offence while bad almost had enough to take the lead in the second half.....I really like Strev but that pick was the end of the offence last night...all the wind came outta the sails right then....on offence we had our top OL out, our top receiver out, and lost our top QB early......at least one can make an excuse for them...the defence though....all healthy...and all terrible....I can't name one defensive player from last night worth praising.....not one.....at least on offence you can say Demski and Brady played damn good, on specials Castillo played damn good, our coverage was good, and Vaval and Case looked capable at returns....that's it, maybe the long snapper.....even the whole energy and aura looked bad last night.....it ruined what something like a 17 game win streak after the bye......yuck

5th game plus two bye weeks for prep. Insanely poor execution and planning.