GDT - Bombers vs Stampers

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

24 TD passes, 21 Ints, the past two seasons for Zach. Walters should not have extended him before this season.

I hope it’s not guaranteed. 
 
This concussion could be the hit rider fans have taunted us about since 19. 

[HardCoreBlue]

7 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

If Zach reconsiders his future, they need to sort that decision out before the end of this season and move fast, starting QB options heading into 2026 are slim, top 3 available candidates Arbuckle, Fajardo, MBT, maybe Taylor Powell can be lured away if BLM continues to play with Lawler.  No promising backups on the horizon, stockpile has been depleted.  Given the obvious lack of options available, won't be surprised if they stick with Zach no matter the consequences or hand the ball to Strev. and struggle to achieve a .500 record.  

Fajardo, MBT? Wash your mouth out with soap. 

At some point, let’s see what Terry Wilson’s got.

[Piggy 1]

11 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I hope it’s not guaranteed. 
 
This concussion could be the hit rider fans have taunted us about since 19. 

Concussion? Has that been confirmed? 

[Fatty Liver]

3 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Fajardo, MBT? Wash your mouth out with soap. 

At some point, let’s see what Terry Wilson’s got.

Explain how that might happen? If he was #2 right now instead of Strev. he'd be picking up valuable game reps, 6 Q's so far this season.  Instead he's wasting away on the sidelines waiting for his football career to expire.

[do or die]

3 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Explain how that might happen? If he was #2 right now instead of Strev. he'd be picking up valuable game reps, 6 Q's so far this season.  Instead he's wasting away on the sidelines waiting for his football career to expire.

As if we haven't seen this lame movie before.........  Incredibly shortsighted.  We seem to be back to the same ole BS of having a guy around a couple of years....without knowing if the dude can actually play....when needed.    Like say, a Cup game....

[SpeedFlex27]

15 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I hope it’s not guaranteed. 
 
This concussion could be the hit rider fans have taunted us about since 19. 

Collaros had a multi year deal & then signed an extension so I think 50% of his final year is guaranteed. 

 

4 minutes ago, do or die said:

As if we haven't seen this lame movie before.........  Incredibly shortsighted.  We seem to be back to the same ole BS of having a guy around a couple of years....without knowing if the dude can actually play....when needed.    Like say, a Cup game....

Yep, this management & coaching team has made some dreadful mistakes pver the years with the mismanagemnet of the roster under the salary cap. As well as who they kepy & releasd. I was an abashed Walters fan but since he signed this last deal he really hasn't done anything. Except let players walk. Osh is Osh. With him nothing ever changes.

[Mark H.]

It's surreal that the people who managed this team / roster from 2018-2021, are same people who have  been managing it from 2022 to the present. They had: culture, depth, Canadians, developed a QB  (Brown), a physical team, etc.  How do you consciously decide to stray away from that blueprint?

[SpeedFlex27]

5 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

It's surreal that the people who managed this team / roster from 2018-2021, are same people who have  been managing it from 2022 to the present. They had: culture, depth, Canadians, developed a QB  (Brown), a physical team, etc.  How do you consciously decide to stray away from that blueprint?

Arrogance & stubborness.  

[do or die]

16 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Arrogance & stubborness.  

Complacency....

[ShyGuy]

6 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Kolo got $150,000 according to Hodge.

https://3downnation.com/2024/01/29/winnipeg-blue-bombers-sign-centre-chris-kolankowski-to-two-year-extension/#:~:text=The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have,part of his new deal.

 

Can't find a salary on Jake but let's say $120,000. That's $270,000 for the two. Jake's role could be filled with an entry level Canadian or American, so let's say that 40k you could save. A C draft pick would do better than Kolo, for fun let's say they drafted Fortin who starts for Calgary. That's what 70k saved. So between the 2 that's a potential 110 k saved.

110/300 is still around a third of the way to Lawler. Someone rightfully mentioned J Jones and Mitchell sitting on the 1 game, that right there is almost a Lawler... but as I kind of mused about above I don't really thing a Lawler type is a luxury this team can really utilize. The rumoured increase in the cap... who knows where that went.

 

 

6 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

They had talent & let them go after the past few seasons. We never replacd the guys we needed that left. "Everyone's a starter" & "Next Man Up!!" says our Head Coach.. That only works if you have talent & depth. Once you begin starting the scrubs then there is no NMU. It happened to Calgary after 2018 & looks like it'll happen here. 

A lot of the talent... even if they wanted to stay some of those contracts are woof.

260K for Drew Desjarlais, 215K for Hardrick, 205K for Dobson, 230K for Ford, 

Some of the ones that got away that I feel hurt because those contracts ended up being pretty reasonable (or they just decided not to play)... Stove Richardson, Casey Sayles, Jeffcoat, J Grant... I'm actually drawing a blank on players the Bombers didn't bring back that had some success with their new teams... Desjarlais got an East All Star Nod, Same with Sayles... Adams had one season he almost hit 1K receiving yards. Brown is looking somewhat promising but no matter how much you invoke Wally Buono I don't think anyone is going to move on from a QB that was back to back MOP and probably finished 3rd in 2023... unless he literally managed to lose a leg at some point between the 2023 grey cup and the opening of free agency... and even then with how the Bombers have treated their guys in free agency with injuries probably not even then.

I dunno... I am kind of working myself in circles looking at rosters from 2019 on. It seemed like the Bombers were just REALLY good at having those elite guys who made a bunch of money, and then filling the roster around them... but as the years have gone by, those Elite guys are pretty much the same (Jefferson, Bryant, Collaros,, Demski, I'm gonna combine Harris and Oliveira into 'Elite Canadian RB'... Bighill and Alexander... but at least they cut losses there)... and now those players are no longer near elite but the players they have been bringing in as support have just been for the most part huge whiffs. 2021 they bring in Dee Alford, Nichols, Rose, Houston and Darby for Corners. 2022 is Ford, Holm and Parker. This year you have Bonds and Bridges out there and it seems like there is a broken coverage every quarter. Nichols always seems to be chasing someone... is he covering for mistakes or has he mysteriously fallen off because he was lights out last year.

 

Are the Bombers unable to bring in talent these days because incoming players know that the mafia has their guys and they will never get their shot? Are they just on a really poor run of identifying talent? Do they have too much confidence in the medical staff / how players are telling them they feel? Some combination or the above? Like mentioned above, you can exchange Thomas and Kolo (who are definitely O'Shea's type of player) for replacement types and Schoen coming off a knee injury for Kenny Lawler. The Bombers definitely have a history of very... questionable roster decisions around injuries. Streveler back this year off his ACL. Schoen ACL. Bighill, Schoen, Bailey and Collaros playing in the 2023 Grey Cup all clearly injured. Collaros coming back into the game in 2024. A 38 year old Bryant collapses in a game last year. Neufeld admittedly playing injured all last year. Oliveira getting injured in camp and playing the first few games. J Grant busting up his ankle on a rush he ends up diving up the middle and the Bombers move on. So many weird decisions.

I apologize for the rambly nature of the above