Stamps at Bombers early chat

[rebusrankin]

Its a home Grey Cup year and it feels like MOS and KW are fine with the status quo despite the cracks we all can see (ZC on the decline, Dline not generating a lot of pressure, Lack of top end WR talent, Lack of Canadian depth). Making it worse, with the exception of Edmonton, every team in the West is at worst solid and I'd say two, BC and Calgary appear on the upswing, while we seem to be going the other way.

[3rdand1.5]

Dillon Mitchel, must have something up, As DT mentioned we tried him at slot and it didn't work and we have never gone back. It has to be something. Case is going into year two, this should be a golden opportunity for him, a chance many never get.  I really hope he makes the most of it, do I have some reservations....yes, but let's hope he gives us some production, honestly Schoen hasn't exactly been lighting up the stat sheets himself.....My biggest concern is Zach now going to get hyper focused on Demski again.....

 

[rebusrankin]

Case had just over 1100 yards in 4 years at South Dakota and then had no receptions his year at Illinois. Must be amazing in practice.

[Pete]

39 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Its a home Grey Cup year and it feels like MOS and KW are fine with the status quo despite the cracks we all can see (ZC on the decline, Dline not generating a lot of pressure, Lack of top end WR talent, Lack of Canadian depth). Making it worse, with the exception of Edmonton, every team in the West is at worst solid and I'd say two, BC and Calgary appear on the upswing, while we seem to be going the other way.

One game doesnt.make a downswing, this upcoming one will say a lot

I agree not addressing our cdn talent at a number of positions is a big miss especially when the only  time we use our top picks is on special teams. We need to see what we have sooner rather than just before the playoffs when a bunch  of our guys are hurt

 

[Booch]

Basically our whole off-season and then TC and first part of season has been an epic fail/flop for receiver...can say for dline too to be honest

Banking on incumbents who couldn't crack a roster last yr...or this camp ( Case/Sterns in Sask) a guy coming off a serious injury which to a receiver can take up the second season back to be back in form (Schoen) another guy ..White who came back from similar and didn't look like he was what he was last year...and then got cut here as he wasn't what he was (further proof to that)...Not adequately replacing Canadian depth behind Clercius and Demski...another guy who can you really can't count on 18 games of full health?....and then Mitchell...a giyi who's head always seems to not be screwed on tight...and this  now apparent lack of trust or inability to coach up a guy to play multiple spots...with a 65k signing bonus on it to boot....did younot do your homework and come to a realization he was limited in usage?....like cmon wtf were e doing this off-season besides standing pat and resting on laurels....of which has failed us 3 straight cup games now

Lewis was out there....Coxie...Rhymes...Lawler...amoung others, and this notion he "didnt fit Osh's culture"...screw that....we need some giys with edge...and play like a prick at times...Apparently Osh likes that as he said thats what he loves about playing an inferior guy at SAM....Kramdi....so that theory is horseshit....if you have a room full of these "osh culture" guys they surely will get others to fall in line

We sucked the major big one on various levels this off-season...our depth is for most part other than DB and linebacker non-existent and some talented guys we do have, don't get a chance to show it as they play second fiddle to a bunch of slugs.....and it's gonna bite us hard again when it counts

ZC is in serious decline ...a crew we gonna walk out this week...Knicked up Demski...Clercius...Wheatfall...Sterns and Case...with Corcorran as back up....good fricken god that horrible and scares nobody.....and 3 lil smurf guys are not what we need to help cratering ZC....As we seen the majority of balls he been throwing last couple seasons...he needs bigger guys with catch radius or physicality to win contested battles...we have one of them (Clercius) and maybe Wheatfall but teams with this group we have complimenting him will take him right outta play....pathetic

 

1 minute ago, Pete said:

One game doesnt.make a downswing, this upcoming one will say a lot

I agree not addressing our cdn talent at a number of positions is a big miss especially when the only  time we use our top picks is on special teams. We need to see what we have sooner rather than just before the playoffs when a bunch  of our guys are hurt

 

hasnt been one game if you been really watching....

 

28 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Case had just over 1100 yards in 4 years at South Dakota and then had no receptions his year at Illinois. Must be amazing in practice.

just a classic case of Osh holding onto and using guys he likes...or have been here for a bit even tho they have done diddly....I truly think he is a poor evaluator of talent and uses a lot of the wrong tings as to what he determines as important for success on field

 

[Booch]

4 minutes ago, Pete said:

One game doesnt.make a downswing, this upcoming one will say a lot

I agree not addressing our cdn talent at a number of positions is a big miss especially when the only  time we use our top picks is on special teams. We need to see what we have sooner rather than just before the playoffs when a bunch  of our guys are hurt

 

look around the league and see other teams draft picks...first yr and second yr guys making major impacts on offence and defence...then look at us....guys who just may make an impact dont even get a sniff or chance.....and the remainder are slugs and plugs who never should get a chance....this is where we failing in epic proportions

That and clinging onto guys well past the best before date but playing them like all-stars in their prime and using aged guys with no proper rotation and burning them out game in and game out.....will say it again and again...Osh is a bad HC in roster management and makeup....he reaped the benefits of a stacked line-up (Thanks to Kyle) but has no clue how to effectively turn one over or see when it's time to cut ties....move on, or put his bias' aside and actually play the best player, and to effectively get major reps for the "back-ups" and up and comers so when we have injury issues when it matters...we arent royaly screwed

[HardCoreBlue]

36 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Case had just over 1100 yards in 4 years at South Dakota and then had no receptions his year at Illinois. Must be amazing in practice.

Not trying to be cheeky but MOS does love the underdog. Here’s hoping it works.

[Booch]

Just now, HardCoreBlue said:

Not trying to be cheeky but MOS does love the underdog. Here’s hoping it works.

That's a bad trait in a coach at any level and any sport 

[Bomberguy]

20 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Kody Case? WTF? Mitchell can't beat out that non entity?

If Mitchell can’t beat this guy he has really ticked Osh off or has somehow managed to finagle some incriminating photos of the coach 😂

I prefer the PC term “less impactful” rather than non entity BTW 😉

[Noeller]

Read DTs post... It explains a lot. Fingers crossed for Case to have taken a step this year. 

As for "this next game will tell a lot"... I'm not sure it does if we're missing two really impactful players on O. Yes, everyone is a starter... I definitely get that.... But it's not like we're responding this week with the same line up as last week. 

I am hopeful for a win in front of another sold out raucous crowd, but Calgary is gonna make it way harder than it needs to be. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Noeller

[BRT]

17 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Read DTs post... It explains a lot. Fingers crossed for Case to have taken a step this year. 

As for "this next game will tell a lot"... I'm not sure it does if we're missing two really impactful players on O. Yes, everyone is a starter... I definitely get that.... But it's not like we're responding this week with the new car same line up as last week. 

I am hopeful for a win in front of another sold out raucous crowd, but Calgary is gonna make it way harder than it needs to be. 

Finally back from an extended trip down way down south (Brazil) and back in good ol Canada - and finally able to catch up on things. And I agree the game with the Stamps will be a tough win for us IMHO. What really concerns me is the quality of our DL. I am starting to think both Jake and Willy may be past their "best before dates". But all in all great to be back in Canada and really happy to be able to watch some CFL games and get back in swing of things Bomberwise!!!!

[greenrider55]

An observation was made that Barron Miles is running a very unique D in Calgary that apparently no one is familiar with.

How true that is, I’m not sure, but it may account for (at least a portion) of how Calgary is finding so much success early.

[Bomberguy]

Getting around to the actual game Friday, when does VA turn into the inconsistent turnover machine he’s been during the second half of the last three or four seasons? Soon I hope. I shouldn’t say anything because that was our QB the last game LOL 😁.

Edited 5 hours ago by Bomberguy

[rebusrankin]

Both of Calgary's 1st rounders, Alford and Fortin are starting. Veresuk for Hamilton also starting. White in Ottawa. Just naming a few. Meanwhile Shay who pre draft was being touted as pro ready and Alex Singletonesqe and Smith are getting no reps on D. Frustrating.

[Booch]

7 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Both of Calgary's 1st rounders, Alford and Fortin are starting. Veresuk for Hamilton also starting. White in Ottawa. Just naming a few. Meanwhile Shay who pre draft was being touted as pro ready and Alex Singletonesqe and Smith are getting no reps on D. Frustrating.

helps when a) you draft guys who can play...or b) give guys with ability the chance/reps.....something we rarely do unless forced to due to injury or defection....

That even goes for import talent we recruit too

Theres also Ugalak in Mtl...Dequay...even Sask has guys taking sig reps...Saad....Busby last yr...we just draft guys who we see as ST and rely on an aging/declining group of "starter" ...I have that in quotes as some aren't starter worthy mainy because we had some success in 2019 and 2021....thats poor assed coaching man

[M.O.A.B.]

Stamps might be getting some help defensively from Biggie. Shoulda asked him to stay with the club as a defensive assistant.

[Arnold_Palmer]

2 hours ago, greenrider55 said:

An observation was made that Barron Miles is running a very unique D in Calgary that apparently no one is familiar with.

How true that is, I’m not sure, but it may account for (at least a portion) of how Calgary is finding so much success early.

Lots of blitzing and physical, agressive DB’s. I think once teams start to see more tape and play them again you’ll start seeing the adjustments, they like to gamble often and to be honest it’s paid off but that’s lots of opportunity for big plays.

[voodoochylde]

48 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said:

Stamps might be getting some help defensively from Biggie. Shoulda asked him to stay with the club as a defensive assistant.

He obviously feels he can still play .. that conversation would likely have been a non-starter.

[bigg jay]

13 minutes ago, voodoochylde said:

He obviously feels he can still play .. that conversation would likely have been a non-starter.

He also recently said he has no desire to coach (other than his kids teams).  He said he's had a long career and his family life has revolved around that so the life of a coach life isn't really what he wants when he's done.

[JuranBoldenRules]

Brian Cole on pace for MODP yet?

[Goalie]

36 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

He also recently said he has no desire to coach (other than his kids teams).  He said he's had a long career and his family life has revolved around that so the life of a coach life isn't really what he wants when he's done.

Yeah I’m not sure where this guy wants to coach thing comes from. Also if they signed bighill as defensive anything ppl would have lost their ****. 

[Stickem]

Vernon Adams has to be pressured....Watching the last 2 games they played , it was obvious they were giving VAJ every opportunity to sling the ball...Now was that because they have an all star O line, giving Adams all kinds of time to progress with 2 sometimes 3 read before he chucks the ball....I think not...The opposition is not pressuring this guy enough....The key to beating the stumps is to get their qb on his horse....Letting him play pitch and catch downfield all game, will result in the same outcome we suffered in Cal last game...We also have to get our act together offensively....We cannot underperform like the last dismal effort...IF Zack can't deliver...I believe it's Streve time

[rebusrankin]

13 minutes ago, Stickem said:

Vernon Adams has to be pressured....Watching the last 2 games they played , it was obvious they were giving VAJ every opportunity to sling the ball...Now was that because they have an all star O line, giving Adams all kinds of time to progress with 2 sometimes 3 read before he chucks the ball....I think not...The opposition is not pressuring this guy enough....The key to beating the stumps is to get their qb on his horse....Letting him play pitch and catch downfield all game, will result in the same outcome we suffered in Cal last game...We also have to get our act together offensively....We cannot underperform like the last dismal effort...IF Zack can't deliver...I believe it's Streve time

Agree on pressure but I don't think our Dline can generate enough. JY is going to have to be creative. On offense. need to be better, with how the receiving group looks right now, I have my concerns.

[JuranBoldenRules]

28 minutes ago, Stickem said:

Vernon Adams has to be pressured....Watching the last 2 games they played , it was obvious they were giving VAJ every opportunity to sling the ball...Now was that because they have an all star O line, giving Adams all kinds of time to progress with 2 sometimes 3 read before he chucks the ball....I think not...The opposition is not pressuring this guy enough....The key to beating the stumps is to get their qb on his horse....Letting him play pitch and catch downfield all game, will result in the same outcome we suffered in Cal last game...We also have to get our act together offensively....We cannot underperform like the last dismal effort...IF Zack can't deliver...I believe it's Streve time

I think beating VA is actually really simple.  Just have to move him off his first read.  Can do that different ways.  Bombers absolutely carved him up dropping 8-9 in coverage the past two seasons.

We got killed in last game by a couple contested catches and our own turnovers.

Sask plays a really predictable and soft Cover 3 shell and if they can't get any pressure with 4 you can call Matt Dunigan and tell him he needs to worry about his record.

[WinnipegGordo]