Lions at Bombers early talk

[wbbfan]

2 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

Sterns earning a lot of disrespect already, he's starting over Mitchell for a reason as is Wheatfall, they've both earned the opportunity to prove their value, should probably give them a chance to demonstrate their ability.  

I don’t think it’s about decisive wins at these positions as much as group under performance. I love sterns heart and motor. Full effort blocking despite his size. 
 I hope he surprises us. I think we are all disappointed and rightly so, in the way the battle went for the last wr spot. 

1 hour ago, Booch said:

Thats it eh?....RB and nothing else....and thats according to???

yes he played teams...Osh even commented that he was out there just destroying guys....Stop being fixated on the "rb" attached to his name....means jack.. and him....and Logan for that matter being on field at same time does not mean it takes away touches for BO....He will get his touches....but also I hope this yr now we dont have Buck that we distribute the ball to guys who are open...or have the best play developing....its not about who touches the ball the most...ot's about how you go about touches to get a win

yeah that makes more sense....a raw rookie with limited skill set..seems like an odd choice

 

White showed more than Sterns...Hall showed more than both them....White offers more to in the run facet of our game which I assume we will be leaning on....guess we will see but putting a guy on our roster who couldnt stay on Sask's isnt a win in my books...thats a fail

MOS shouldnt get the benefit of the doubt based on a lot of his rostering....some people around here think he's just this other worldly god who does everything right...and he aint...no coach is

Sterns over white seems surprising. I know they really liked sterns intangibles but white seemed to have a good edge. 

[rebusrankin]

Perhaps Sterns is in because they want a guy who can do those 7-10 yards routes and CS gets the ball out early?

[TommyClements]

Yawn. Roster released, panic ensues as several fans who have never seen players in question play call out one of most successful Bomber coaches in history for his decisions. Throw in some Jake hate for good measure. 

[Atomic]

Sterns had an interesting college career, he played for Western Kentucky and he had the highest receiving yardage total, receptions and touchdowns in the entire NCAA in 2021 with 1902 yards and 17 TDs on 150 catches. I don't care what league you're playing in, those are crazy numbers... Especially for a guy who is barely 5'8". I'm not going to judge him on what he did in Sask on a mess of a team. I think there is some great potential there.

[wbbfan]

33 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Perhaps Sterns is in because they want a guy who can do those 7-10 yards routes and CS gets the ball out early?

Could be fit with hogans system. 

[SpeedFlex27]

 

Jake Thomas starting.... 

[Mike]

Jones and Mitchell almost 300k a season to sit 

[SpeedFlex27]

2 minutes ago, Mike said:

Jones and Mitchell almost 300k a season to sit 

We're $400,000 under the cap so... The personnel decisions being made by the Bombers Walters & Osh are just head scratching. Make no sense. 

[Bubba Zanetti]

1 hour ago, Atomic said:

Sterns had an interesting college career, he played for Western Kentucky and he had the highest receiving yardage total, receptions and touchdowns in the entire NCAA in 2021 with 1902 yards and 17 TDs on 150 catches. I don't care what league you're playing in, those are crazy numbers... Especially for a guy who is barely 5'8". I'm not going to judge him on what he did in Sask on a mess of a team. I think there is some great potential there.

Yeah i think he’s got big time potential and could potentially explode if given the opportunity. He made a lot of plays in sask even though he was the low man on the totem pole and was never a featured player.

[Fatty Liver]

24 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

We're $400,000 under the cap so... The personnel decisions being made by the Bombers Walters & Osh are just head scratching. Make no sense. 

They have the cap space to abuse the hell out of the 1 game IR this season, they can use it till real injuries crop up and the roster sorts it's self out as it usually does.  Might need it later on to pay Randolph or Vanterpool and keep them off the PR once Lofton returns, if the O-line does not suffer any more injury setbacks.

[wbbfan]

2 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

They have the cap space to abuse the hell out of the 1 game IR this season, they can use it till real injuries crop up and the roster sorts it's self out as it usually does.  Might need it later on to pay Randolph or Vanterpool and keep them off the PR once Lofton returns, if the O-line does not suffer any more injury setbacks.

Yeah and go after nfl cuts aggressively if they fit our need. 
 Idk about Lofton. Fringe guy missing this chunk will have a serious uphill battle. Unless Randolph fails, he’s gonna be in a bad spot in a month. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Perhaps Sterns is in because they want a guy who can do those 7-10 yards routes and CS gets the ball out early?

He's a YAC guy.  Probably not a bad fit with Streveler but Collaros with both OC's has been a guy really locked in on vertical.  Get him big guys.

[HardCoreBlue]

2 hours ago, TommyClements said:

Yawn. Roster released, panic ensues as several fans who have never seen players in question play call out one of most successful Bomber coaches in history for his decisions. Throw in some Jake hate for good measure. 

Well nothing to see here. What were we thinking? You heard the man, shut everything down, no need to discuss anything on a discussion board.

[Eternal optimist]

Was just chatting with the Mrs.... i think Wellington Crescent has been under construction every year since they moved the stadium?

Am I wrong, or are they just doing this for fun now

[bustamente]

7 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:

Was just chatting with the Mrs.... i think Wellington Crescent has been under construction every year since they moved the stadium?

Am I wrong, or are they just doing this for fun now

I think you are thinking University Crescent, Wellington Crescent is nowhere near the PAS

[Booch]

12 hours ago, Mike said:

Jones and Mitchell almost 300k a season to sit 

thats what happens when you have a coach who lays his fav's...tho Mitchell never earned anything yet....buy even so I bet if on roster he would offer more than Sterns,,,,,and why not give him a few games to work it out...we wasted about 6 or 7 on the other Mitchell and Johnson last yr...

12 hours ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

Yeah i think he’s got big time potential and could potentially explode if given the opportunity. He made a lot of plays in sask even though he was the low man on the totem pole and was never a featured player.

2 yrs in Sask it never materialized....this camp showed more the same.....but lets roster hi anyway and jettison some prospects and Park Mitchell and White who both have had success in league...makes sense to me

[JuranBoldenRules]

41 minutes ago, Booch said:

thats what happens when you have a coach who lays his fav's...tho Mitchell never earned anything yet....buy even so I bet if on roster he would offer more than Sterns,,,,,and why not give him a few games to work it out...we wasted about 6 or 7 on the other Mitchell and Johnson last yr...

2 yrs in Sask it never materialized....this camp showed more the same.....but lets roster hi anyway and jettison some prospects and Park Mitchell and White who both have had success in league...makes sense to me

FWIW....Sterns, Mitchell and White are all within about 3 yards per game average in their CFL careers.  So fair to say nearly exact same level of production in 23, 32 (White) and 45 CFL games.

IMO keep/roster the guy the QB's want/mesh with and who fits the offense....which we haven't seen yet with Hogan scheming and calling the plays.

[Booch]

5 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

FWIW....Sterns, Mitchell and White are all within about 3 yards per game average in their CFL careers.  So fair to say nearly exact same level of production in 23, 32 (White) and 45 CFL games.

IMO keep/roster the guy the QB's want/mesh with and who fits the offense....which we haven't seen yet with Hogan scheming and calling the plays.

of those stats tho....Mitchell and White Jr have made impact plays...garner attention...Sterns?....I recall zero impact he has ever made other than pedestrian plays...I do recall a lot of drops...shying away from traffic to not make a catch....

[HardCoreBlue]

11 hours ago, Eternal optimist said:

Was just chatting with the Mrs.... i think Wellington Crescent has been under construction every year since they moved the stadium?

Am I wrong, or are they just doing this for fun now

Yes, yes they are.

[blue85gold]

13 hours ago, Mike said:

Jones and Mitchell almost 300k a season to sit 

I get the frustration but the signing bonuses are a sunk cost no matter who plays now. 

Mitchell got 63K upfront, 148K overall, so $85K for the season,  ~$4.7K per game

JJones got 15K upfront, 120.5K overall, so $105K for the season, ~$5.8K per game.

It's game 1, so $10.5K to sit.

*numbers from 3downnation so who knows if accurate

Sorry. I'm an accountant. 

FWIW I really want to see JJones play and would prefer him on the roster. Hope he gets in soon.

Mitchell it sucks to burn the bonus money but whichever of the 3 vet receivers brought in showed the most in camp gets to play. 

Overall much better depth position than last year at receiver and LB.

[JuranBoldenRules]

22 minutes ago, Booch said:

of those stats tho....Mitchell and White Jr have made impact plays...garner attention...Sterns?....I recall zero impact he has ever made other than pedestrian plays...I do recall a lot of drops...shying away from traffic to not make a catch....

Your memories and recall might not make the best scouting report.

[wbbfan]

3 minutes ago, blue85gold said:

I get the frustration but the signing bonuses are a sunk cost no matter who plays now. 

Mitchell got 63K upfront, 148K overall, so $85K for the season,  ~$4.7K per game

JJones got 15K upfront, 120.5K overall, so $105K for the season, ~$5.8K per game.

It's game 1, so $10.5K to sit.

*numbers from 3downnation so who knows if accurate

Sorry. I'm an accountant. 

FWIW I really want to see JJones play and would prefer him on the roster. Hope he gets in soon.

Mitchell it sucks to burn the bonus money but whichever of the 3 vet receivers brought in showed the most in camp gets to play. 

Overall much better depth position than last year at receiver and LB.

Yeah, and with the cap space sunk cost fallacy shouldn't be too strong. I think we are all just disappointed that of our 3 "big" free agent splashes, 1 is on the IR and 2 are on the PR/scratched. 

[Booch]

7 minutes ago, blue85gold said:

I get the frustration but the signing bonuses are a sunk cost no matter who plays now. 

Mitchell got 63K upfront, 148K overall, so $85K for the season,  ~$4.7K per game

JJones got 15K upfront, 120.5K overall, so $105K for the season, ~$5.8K per game.

It's game 1, so $10.5K to sit.

*numbers from 3downnation so who knows if accurate

Sorry. I'm an accountant. 

FWIW I really want to see JJones play and would prefer him on the roster. Hope he gets in soon.

Mitchell it sucks to burn the bonus money but whichever of the 3 vet receivers brought in showed the most in camp gets to play. 

Overall much better depth position than last year at receiver and LB.

WHY not whatever receiver showed the most...vet...rooike...2nd yr guy...Guy that showed the most...and had chemistry with ZC...they Cut...Hall....an prospect too with size and skill set

 

7 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Your memories and recall might not make the best scouting report.

I recall White making a ton of impact plays...clutch ones too....Same with Mitchell...originally....Sterns?...I have no recall of anything outstanding...and I watch a lot of film....a ton of film....and by film not TSN tv video

 

[blue85gold]

6 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Yeah, and with the cap space sunk cost fallacy shouldn't be too strong. I think we are all just disappointed that of our 3 "big" free agent splashes, 1 is on the IR and 2 are on the PR/scratched. 

Maybe my brain isn't working this morning but who is on the IR?

Vaughters is as big as any of them and he's starting. 

1 minute ago, Booch said:

WHY not whatever receiver showed the most...vet...rooike...2nd yr guy...Guy that showed the most...and had chemistry with ZC...they Cut...Hall....an prospect too with size and skill set

 

That's what they did. Just not showed the most in the preseason games. There was a whole camp that most of us have no idea what happened at because there is no one to report on it.

2nd year guy Wheatfall beat out Mitchell and White to make the active roster. 

Sterns beat out Mitchell and White to make the active roster. Reports are he has chemistry with Zach.

Hall made a few catches in a preseason game. So what?

[Booch]

6 minutes ago, blue85gold said:

Maybe my brain isn't working this morning but who is on the IR?

Vaughters is as big as any of them and he's starting. 

That's what they did. Just not showed the most in the preseason games. There was a whole camp that most of us have no idea what happened at because there is no one to report on it.

2nd year guy Wheatfall beat out Mitchell and White to make the active roster. 

Sterns beat out Mitchell and White to make the active roster. Reports are he has chemistry with Zach.

Hall made a few catches in a preseason game. So what?

J.Jones