Lions at Bombers early talk

[3rdand1.5]

I remember we usually play well against Rourke, can someone with a better memory perhaps tell me did we "spy" him when we played him, he does well with his legs. If my memory is correct.....but I don't fully trust that.....We traditionally dropped heavy coverage, focused on containing him in the pocket and had a "spy" looking for the run with really good success......am I accurate in that?

[Pete Catan's Ghost]

6 minutes ago, 3rdand1.5 said:

I remember we usually play well against Rourke, can someone with a better memory perhaps tell me did we "spy" him when we played him, he does well with his legs. If my memory is correct.....but I don't fully trust that.....We traditionally dropped heavy coverage, focused on containing him in the pocket and had a "spy" looking for the run with really good success......am I accurate in that?

Watched the ‘22 Western final a while ago. 

Take aways:

BB didn’t look to be spying Rourke. He only rushed a few times on broken plays, but spent most of his time in the pocket.

Rasheed Bailey was a premier blocker. 

Alden Darby could be very good. 

Desmond Lawrence could be very opportunistic, but ultimately, unreliable in coverage  

ZC’s decision making could be very questionable. 

Legghio missed 2 extra points ( 1 returned for 2).

Rourke cannot handle our crowd. At least 3 time count violations, plus the final hurry up was a cluster for BC. 

BO ripped out their heart in the second half.  

[JuranBoldenRules]

34 minutes ago, 3rdand1.5 said:

I remember we usually play well against Rourke, can someone with a better memory perhaps tell me did we "spy" him when we played him, he does well with his legs. If my memory is correct.....but I don't fully trust that.....We traditionally dropped heavy coverage, focused on containing him in the pocket and had a "spy" looking for the run with really good success......am I accurate in that?

Not so much spy specifically but lots of dropping out 9 and being very unpredictable in coverage in terms of having different guys drop into deep thirds, different guys sit in flat/curl zones.  Heavy match zone so really hard for receivers to get open, really tight windows.

[Fatty Liver]

43 minutes ago, Pete Catan's Ghost said:

Watched the ‘22 Western final a while ago. 

Take aways:

BB didn’t look to be spying Rourke. He only rushed a few times on broken plays, but spent most of his time in the pocket.

Rasheed Bailey was a premier blocker. 

Alden Darby could be very good. 

Desmond Lawrence could be very opportunistic, but ultimately, unreliable in coverage  

ZC’s decision making could be very questionable. 

Legghio missed 2 extra points ( 1 returned for 2).

Rourke cannot handle our crowd. At least 3 time count violations, plus the final hurry up was a cluster for BC. 

BO ripped out their heart in the second half.  

Wasn't Rourke just coming off of a serious injury before that game?  I think there was speculation he wouldn't play and Dane Evans would get the start.

14 hours ago, Atomic said:

There is no way you can cage that dog. He's going to be running. Maybe less than before but I guarantee he's plowing through linebackers by the second quarter.

He couldn't do that last season, those days are over, he either sinks or swims with his vaunted arm.

[Booch]

13 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Wasn't Rourke just coming off of a serious injury before that game?  I think there was speculation he wouldn't play and Dane Evans would get the start.

He couldn't do that last season, those days are over, he either sinks or swims with his vaunted arm.

the runs thy had him do were garbage and pointless....and soooo telegraphed.....no QB would have had success with that...so glad Buck is gone as I bet we see all kinds of different tuns....not just with Strev

[kelownabomberfan]

17 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Wasn't Rourke just coming off of a serious injury before that game?  I think there was speculation he wouldn't play and Dane Evans would get the start.

 

Yeah he had some kind of foot injury.

[Bomberguy]

I know we beat him a few times recently, but going back to his Montreal days, VA gave our team more trouble than Rourke has. Other than the fact he’s Canadian, I still think the Lions faired much better with a healthy Adam’s than a healthy Rourke. Glad he’s out of BC.

[Bigblue204]

Practice notes from DT via Twitter.

Vanterpool at LG
Kramdi is practicing

Jarious Jackson has arrived.

[Booch]

Just now, Bigblue204 said:

Practice notes from DT via Twitter.

Vanterpool at LG
Kramdi is practicing

Jarious Jackson has arrived.

nice to see Jackson here...thats huge

not wanting to see 3 imports on Oline tho....will effect our defence big time

Edited 5 hours ago by Booch

[JuranBoldenRules]

Just now, Bomberguy said:

I know we beat him a few times recently, but going back to his Montreal days, VA gave our team more trouble than Rourke has. Other than the fact he’s Canadian, I still think the Lions faired much better with a healthy Adam’s than a healthy Rourke. Glad he’s out of BC.

Yeah I think they solved VA last year basically taking a similar approach to how they played Rourke...and really most QB's.  Less blitzing, better disguised blitzes, more drop 8-9 out and variable on who is where in our zone coverages so QB can't make any assumptions pre-snap without risking a turnover.

[rebusrankin]

On the one hand, if 3 import OL offer the best protection I am for it but on the other hand, man does it limit our D. Later in the year with Mackonzo and Kelly back and Shay+Smith more able to participate, sure.

[Bomberguy]

7 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Yeah I think they solved VA last year basically taking a similar approach to how they played Rourke...and really most QB's.  Less blitzing, better disguised blitzes, more drop 8-9 out and variable on who is where in our zone coverages so QB can't make any assumptions pre-snap without risking a turnover.

It’ll be interesting to see how VA does against us as a Stamp, not saying Calgary is a contender yet.

[JuranBoldenRules]

5 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

On the one hand, if 3 import OL offer the best protection I am for it but on the other hand, man does it limit our D. Later in the year with Mackonzo and Kelly back and Shay+Smith more able to participate, sure.

They'd be thin out of the gate to always have 2 Canadians out on D, but it wouldn't be that bad.  You'd need 2 of Kramdi, Lawson/Thomas, Munier-Bailey, Shay, Smith, Gauthier, Hallett on the field on any given snap.  Chances are we will have 2 of those guys on the field anyway.

If the difference is QB having time to move the ball vs QB not having time to move the ball, it's a pretty easy call.

[Colin Unger]

The talent around Rourke was much better back in those days.  Im Expecting a season from him somewhere between 2022 and 2024. 

[Bomberguy]

2 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

The talent around Rourke was much better back in those days.  Im Expecting a season from him somewhere between 2022 and 2024. 

This will also give us a good indication of how good a coach our ex is 😊

[Fatty Liver]

29 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Practice notes from DT via Twitter.

Vanterpool at LG
Kramdi is practicing

Jarious Jackson has arrived.

Did he arrive on foot?

[rebusrankin]

19 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Did he arrive on foot?

I hear he landed a helicopter at mid field.

[Bubba Zanetti]

43 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Did he arrive on foot?

[Mark H.]

47 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Did he arrive on foot?

27 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

I hear he landed a helicopter at mid field.

Red River cart, pulled by non-fixed oxen.

[Tracker]

18 hours ago, Brandon said:

I hope not,  I'd rather him only run if it is the last option.  

If a QB is a threat to run for good yardage 2-4 times per game, it causes so many problems for the defence, but it has to be done effectively and intelligently with the receivers blocking aggressively. If a defensive back has to worry about a Clercius coming downhill to lay him out, suddenly tackling a running back or quarterback becomes a lower priority.

[Fatty Liver]

 

[voodoochylde]

3 hours ago, Bomberguy said:

I know we beat him a few times recently, but going back to his Montreal days, VA gave our team more trouble than Rourke has. Other than the fact he’s Canadian, I still think the Lions faired much better with a healthy Adam’s than a healthy Rourke. Glad he’s out of BC.

With VA in Calgary, it just makes the West more competitive overall.

[HardCoreBlue]

38 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

 

JJ looks fantastic in Blue and Gold.

Welcome.

ps its a Grey Cup win or bust this year so time to get to work.

[Booch]

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

If a QB is a threat to run for good yardage 2-4 times per game, it causes so many problems for the defence, but it has to be done effectively and intelligently with the receivers blocking aggressively. If a defensive back has to worry about a Clercius coming downhill to lay him out, suddenly tackling a running back or quarterback becomes a lower priority.

Kinda like his first season and how/when he ran and parts of second....before our coaching went right stupid about it,,,,basically let him play as a dual threat QB....emphasis on the QB part

And he will be fine...the issues mainly coming back....speaking from experience is more mental and the body/mind sub-conscious tendency to not go full out or play tentative and not trusting it....speaking from experience coming back from 2 of those surgeries and also working with players re-habbing from it....I think he is well past that mental part, especially with the technology and way they rebuild and rehab it now

I'm more concerned with Schoen initially until we see more reps..as we havnt seen much and as a receiver cutting...stop and go...going up to grab a pass and land...sometimes thy tend to take a while to get the doubt out of their mind....I wouldn't be surprised to see him kinda let up on some plays...especially in traffic and the circus type catches where he has to go up and get one be a lil touch and go