Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

[wbbfan]

3 hours ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Meh he was good in Toronto, lost his job there, couldn’t crack a spot here, it’s not like there wasn’t an opportunity here to some degree because Younger likes using several linebackers in his schemes.  Woodbrey who started lower on the pecking order surpassed Jones over time and just had an outstanding game. 

Wynton mcmanis lol, and when he was healthy he stole half his reps. Their other lber was pickett, aka the two best lbers in the cfl in the last 5+ years. and Jjones took reps and starts from them. Woodbey isn’t being used like jones and didn’t pass him on the depth chart. woodbey is being used as a db. He could be used as a wil like that but isn’t. 

Does any one think that Tony jones or kyrie would steal reps/starts from mcmannis or pickett on any other team in the league? 

Edited 16 hours ago by wbbfan

[sweep the leg]

2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

If we keep Walters expect another useless off season of non signings & defections. Not much of a risk to trade for Mauldin. He'd have helped us for a playoff run. We could have had the guy for a fourth rounder. Now we lose Jones. Walters has to go. 

Mauldin was the next great thing in 2022, but couldn’t sustain it. Now he’s just a guy. I would’ve been fine taking a chance on him, but not ready to fire the gm over passing on him.

[SpeedFlex27]

47 minutes ago, sweep the leg said:

Mauldin was the next great thing in 2022, but couldn’t sustain it. Now he’s just a guy. I would’ve been fine taking a chance on him, but not ready to fire the gm over passing on him.

It's not just Mauldin. It's the last couple of seasons. Both Osh & Walters have no contract next season. 

[Arnold_Palmer]

10 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Wynton mcmanis lol, and when he was healthy he stole half his reps. Their other lber was pickett, aka the two best lbers in the cfl in the last 5+ years. and Jjones took reps and starts from them. Woodbey isn’t being used like jones and didn’t pass him on the depth chart. woodbey is being used as a db. He could be used as a wil like that but isn’t. 

Does any one think that Tony jones or kyrie would steal reps/starts from mcmannis or pickett on any other team in the league? 

Pickett was gone  and in Ottawa the year Jones lost his job and Mcmannis has been in Toronto just as long as Jones was in Toronto so no that has nothing to do with anything. And yeah Tony Jones and Kyrie Wilson would absolutely be starters in this league on other rosters based on their play this year. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Arnold_Palmer

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Pickett was gone  and in Ottawa the year Jones lost his job and Mcmannis has been in Toronto just as long as Jones was in Toronto so no that has nothing to do with anything. And yeah Tony Jones and Kyrie Wilson would absolutely be starters in this league on other rosters based on their play this year. 

he didn’t lose his job during a season, he was injured. Pickett and mcmannis was there when he was playing in 2023. His contract ended and they didn’t bring him back. 

 That wasn’t the question though was it? So let’s put the goal post back, would kyrie or jones take reps from mcmannis or picket like Jones did, on any other team in the league? The answers no, they wouldn’t. 

[Stickem]

37 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

 

 That wasn’t the question though was it? So let’s put the goal post back,

 For cripes sake...You mean they've started moving them already...lol ...Tony Jones will have a hard time making anyones roster due to his age....Wilson..most likely 

[Tracker]

With J. Jones being cut, this means that we will be stuck with him at MLB until either or O'Shea dies.

[17to85]

14 minutes ago, Tracker said:

With J. Jones being cut, this means that we will be stuck with him at MLB until either or O'Shea dies.

Even with J.Jones here T.Jones was never in danger of losing a spot. 

If the coach was so married to his guys at lb why even sign j.jones? That's the crazy part. Clearly the coach and gm are reading 2 different books at this point.

[Goalie]

4 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Even with J.Jones here T.Jones was never in danger of losing a spot. 

If the coach was so married to his guys at lb why even sign j.jones? That's the crazy part. Clearly the coach and gm are reading 2 different books at this point.

Or and here’s the crazy part. J Jones is being seriously overrated by people on here. Linebackers haven’t been an issue and with Woodbey and the cdn kids. Where’s the spot for another import linebacker. You guys say they don’t play enough DL but now you want the 700 linebackers on. Wild whacky stuff. 

[Pete]

21 minutes ago, Tracker said:

With J. Jones being cut, this means that we will be stuck with him at MLB until either or O'Shea dies.

T Jones is on the top two tacklers in the league so were lucky to have him. We signed  JJones for insurance but since Woodbey has proven to be better

[17to85]

1 minute ago, Pete said:

T Jones is on the top two tacklers in the league so were lucky to have him. We signed  JJones for insurance but since Woodbey has proven to be better

Tackles, oh yay. I'd rather a linebacker make plays than tackles.

4 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Or and here’s the crazy part. J Jones is being seriously overrated by people on here. Linebackers haven’t been an issue and with Woodbey and the cdn kids. Where’s the spot for another import linebacker. You guys say they don’t play enough DL but now you want the 700 linebackers on. Wild whacky stuff. 

So why sign Jones if he's as trash as you say? It still points to a disconnect between coach and gm.

[Bigblue204]

We have no idea why he was signed or why he was released. Pretending otherwise is Twitter level conspiracy stuff. 

The LBs have not been an issue. J.Jones had some playing time and didnt light the world on fire. Sucks to see him go, but not worthy of panicking over it either.

[17to85]

There is a difference between a position not being a problem and being impactful. Tony Jones has a **** ton of tackles but I would say he's had 1 game where he was impactful. Wilson I'd say maaayyybbbbeee one game where he was impactful. 

We can do better and J.Jones likely would have but he never got more than 1 game (which did show a skilled player IMO)

[Bigblue204]

Maybe, he may have also become a liability. Either way we'll never know

[rebusrankin]

Such a waste with J.Jones. Between him, Mitchell and Logan, we wasted a lot of free agency $.

Tony Jones is an ok linebacker but not a guy who deserved a two year deal (yes, he's back for 2026)

[Noeller]

I don't have an opinion one way or the other... I trust JY and the D coaches..... But... I thought Doug Brown had an interesting comment in a recent Pre Game Show when he said "the Bombers going from Bighill to Jones reminds me of when we went from Barrin Simpson to Joe Lobendahn..." As in, Joe Lobendahn was a fine MACK but, there are very few Barring Simpsons (or Adam Bighills) in th world...

[Blue28]

3 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Such a waste with J.Jones. Between him, Mitchell and Logan, we wasted a lot of free agency $.

Tony Jones is an ok linebacker but not a guy who deserved a two year deal (yes, he's back for 2026)

The wasted money include as well: White Jr, Makonzo, Hagerty, among others.

[Mike]

18 minutes ago, Blue28 said:

The wasted money include as well: White Jr, Makonzo, Hagerty, among others.

I mean there’s zero wasted money there

[rebusrankin]

That said despite all my bellyaching, I am hoping we catch lightning in a bottle and end the year celebrating a cup win at home. 

[WinnipegGordo]

1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:

We have no idea why he was signed or why he was released. Pretending otherwise is Twitter level conspiracy stuff. 

The LBs have not been an issue. J.Jones had some playing time and didnt light the world on fire. Sucks to see him go, but not worthy of panicking over it either.

He might have asked for his release.

Being let go before the trade deadline allows him to play for another team this season if he gets picked up.

[wbbfan]

2 hours ago, Goalie said:

Or and here’s the crazy part. J Jones is being seriously overrated by people on here. Linebackers haven’t been an issue and with Woodbey and the cdn kids. Where’s the spot for another import linebacker. You guys say they don’t play enough DL but now you want the 700 linebackers on. Wild whacky stuff. 

Was he over rated by toronto when he lead them in sacks while rotating with the 2 best lbers in the league? 

Lbers have the lowest impact of any position player in the cfl, but tjones has been awful in coverage. 
Woodbey isn’t playing lber. No one said they wanted more lbers on the roster. Just the right ones. I mean things can get whacky when you just make up strawman arguments. 

2 hours ago, Pete said:

T Jones is on the top two tacklers in the league so were lucky to have him. We signed  JJones for insurance but since Woodbey has proven to be better

tackles are not a success indicator for a lber or db. Awe stacks up tons of tackles and very few stop. 

35 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I don't have an opinion one way or the other... I trust JY and the D coaches..... But... I thought Doug Brown had an interesting comment in a recent Pre Game Show when he said "the Bombers going from Bighill to Jones reminds me of when we went from Barrin Simpson to Joe Lobendahn..." As in, Joe Lobendahn was a fine MACK but, there are very few Barring Simpsons (or Adam Bighills) in th world...

very much so, but slow joe was better early on. 

[Booch]

18 hours ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Meh he was good in Toronto, lost his job there, couldn’t crack a spot here, it’s not like there wasn’t an opportunity here to some degree because Younger likes using several linebackers in his schemes.  Woodbrey who started lower on the pecking order surpassed Jones over time and just had an outstanding game. 

he got hurt....Didnt lose it...then they went Canadian in the spot, and hence no room for him and or his salary...wasnt a performance base thing

 

17 hours ago, Mike said:

I’m just irritated with yet another terrible handling of free agency dollars.

Sign a guy to decent money, healthy scratch (aka pay him against the cap to do nothing) and then move him to the PR where we definitely also still paid his full salary and then cut him for the playoff run.

What the hell was the overall plan for this guy?

 

16 hours ago, 17to85 said:

My concern is what the hell did the gm and coach talk about going into the offseason? Guys we drafted get no defensive snaps either. Just bizarre what's happening

I dont think they really even had a plan....just cling to and hope the past resurfaces...again......that ship has sailed on many aspects of the past, and I also truly don't think Osh is a good evaluator of talent...he definately values some things over talent...and those things don't translate on the field to the best players

[wbbfan]

5 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

That said despite all my bellyaching, I am hoping we catch lightning in a bottle and end the year celebrating a cup win at home. 

Course, that’ll all be on zach and the secondary really. Brady will ball out no matter what. 

If zach can sustain the level of play he did against hamilton, I don’t think any D in the league can stop him. His blitz pick up and speed at getting the ball out into safe productive spots was extraordinary. That’s his two best game manager performances stuck between the injury. Maybe he’s caught that lightning in a bottle. Dare to dream. 

 It would be awesome for him to carry us to a cup after some pretty terrible play off performances. 

Edmonton has been much improved but we should still handle them if we show up like we did vs hamilton. Ssk likely has the west division wrapped up by the game we play. Montreal in the last game could go either way. But it’s hard to see any of those teams bringing there best against us. 

[wbbfan]

8 minutes ago, Booch said:

he got hurt....Didnt lose it...then they went Canadian in the spot, and hence no room for him and or his salary...wasnt a performance base thing

 

 

I dont think they really even had a plan....just cling to and hope the past resurfaces...again......that ship has sailed on many aspects of the past, and I also truly don't think Osh is a good evaluator of talent...he definately values some things over talent...and those things don't translate on the field to the best players

I don’t think mos gives consideration to talent evaluation. I think he looks at intangibles, and singular factors he likes at positions. Oh he’s got the best hips i’ve ever seen, oh he’s the smartest guy on the field, even the lauded anthem of he’s real nasty. 

From all these years of seeing our roster building, I really think mos believes talent equals out in the end no matter what. Or that they are all just as talented. As though being crafty as a wr counter balances having the size of a gnat and athleticism of matt sheridan. 

Like if he collects the right pile of intangibles no matter the attributes, we will succeed. I doubt he’d look at our ship years and say we had a massive talent advantage. 

[rebusrankin]

The sad thing is, something you do need to focus on pure talent and ability, not just a good work ethic and liking a guy's back story.