18 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

I don’t think the league is corrupt so to speak. I think there’s just a very, very subtle push to let things go the big market teams way. 
TSN doesn’t help this either, the way they slobber all over BC and the Argos 

The league is not PURPOSELY corrupt. However, in the back of every single CFL employee's mind has got to be a full awareness that the CFL needs the big market teams to have at least some fan interest in order to survive. Also, there is I'm sure a full awareness that only happens when their teams have success. Do these job preservation realities sometimes lead to calls going their way subconsciously. I would think so, and the proof of my statement is in the pudding. No mandate from the CFL per se, but we would have to be awfully naive to think that CFL employees don't give the benefit of any doubt subconsciously to the markets in the East.

Edited October 28, 20241 yr by GCn20

14 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

For some strange reason I’m now a huge fan of random gale force winds.
Weird.

My wifey isn't a fan of my "outta nowhere" gale force winds, at least they're flavored at times.

8 minutes ago, Nolby said:

My wifey isn't a fan of my "outta nowhere" gale force winds, at least they're flavored at times.

I'm now thinking we should have a throw-up emoticon. 

My condolences to your wife. 🙂

43 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

I don’t think the league is corrupt so to speak. I think there’s just a very, very subtle push to let things go the big market teams way. 
TSN doesn’t help this either, the way they slobber all over BC and the Argos 

I don’t think it’s even that much. It’s just that what they are letting slide is more beneficial to some teams than others. It’s not a big help for us but is for teams with young ols and who run pressure fronts.  Which happens to be bc on o, tor and mtl on D. 

27 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

The league is not PURPOSELY corrupt. However, in the back of every single CFL employee's mind has got to be a full awareness that the CFL needs the big market teams to have at least some fan interest in order to survive. Also, there is I'm sure a full awareness that only happens when their teams have success. Do these job preservation realities sometimes lead to calls going their way subconsciously. I would think so, and the proof of my statement is in the pudding. No mandate from the CFL per se, but we would have to be awfully naive to think that CFL employees don't give the benefit of any doubt subconsciously to the markets in the East.

It’s like in the nba how in the LeBron era, they started calling every thing an and 1. In that case the nba does bend calls more towards star players I don’t think it’s as prevalent here. 

29 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I don’t think it’s even that much. It’s just that what they are letting slide is more beneficial to some teams than others. It’s not a big help for us but is for teams with young ols and who run pressure fronts.  Which happens to be bc on o, tor and mtl on D. 

It’s like in the nba how in the LeBron era, they started calling every thing an and 1. In that case the nba does bend calls more towards star players I don’t think it’s as prevalent here. 

I think it as prevalent here, just more on a team by team basis. They skew to the East. One can't look at the calls in a game and blame incompetence. Take the interception by Ford the other day. I can't blame incompetence for that. It goes far beyond any logistical thinking that this was plain old incompetence. The guy got both feet down 2 yards inbounds with full control of the ball. That was a ref demonstrating bias. You will never convince me otherwise on a play like that. It was as clear an interception as one could ever have. No toe drag close to the line, no issue whatsoever with possession..nothing. When the watermelon heads are shaking their head in disbelief you know it was an egregious call against the Bombers.

Edited October 28, 20241 yr by GCn20

If the league is supposed to review every turnover - how come the ford non-interception was left as is?

 

54 minutes ago, Nolby said:

My wifey isn't a fan of my "outta nowhere" gale force winds, at least they're flavored at times.

Similar vibe in this household. She doesnt like our dutch oven. 

3 minutes ago, Blue28 said:

If the league is supposed to review every turnover - how come the ford non-interception was left as is?

 

Because it was ruled incomplete on the field it wasn't automatically reviewable. But to me should have fallen under the obvious screwup umbrella where they are allowed to jump in anytime. See: random procedure penalty against the Bombers in week 1.

40 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

I think it as prevalent here, just more on a team by team basis. They skew to the East. One can't look at the calls in a game and blame incompetence. Take the interception by Ford the other day. I can't blame incompetence for that. It goes far beyond any logistical thinking that this was plain old incompetence. The guy got both feet down 2 yards inbounds with full control of the ball. That was a ref demonstrating bias. You will never convince me otherwise on a play like that. It was as clear an interception as one could ever have. No toe drag close to the line, no issue whatsoever with possession..nothing. When the watermelon heads are shaking their head in disbelief you know it was an egregious call against the Bombers.

I have a heavy bias against ref collusion type stuff in sports. But it does happen, just almost never the way people think or for the reasons people think. 
 But with out question the leagues best interest is in eastern teams doing well. Especially the Ontario teams. 
 As well as I desire to keep Regina alive as the top market (which it hasn’t been for years) and in aiding doman in B.C.  

 I don’t think that extends to game to game enforcement of the rules, nor do I think the refs are competent to even do that. But I certainly see it in other aspects like supplemental punishment, and so far as off setting misconducts. 

As long as God is not busy on game day and can lend a hand (not that I believe as I'm an Atheist...honest to God) but a little divine intervention is always welcome.

1 hour ago, Nolby said:

My wifey isn't a fan of my "outta nowhere" gale force winds, at least they're flavored at times.

No one wants that "flavour".

 

No. One.

 

 

 

 

 

😀 

 

3 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Because it was ruled incomplete on the field it wasn't automatically reviewable. But to me should have fallen under the obvious screwup umbrella where they are allowed to jump in anytime. See: random procedure penalty against the Bombers in week 1.

I don't know the rule, but I believe that it should be treated like any scoring or potential scoring play that automatically gets reviewed.  Any turnover or potential turnover should be automatically reviewed.

36 minutes ago, Sard said:

I don't know the rule, but I believe that it should be treated like any scoring or potential scoring play that automatically gets reviewed.  Any turnover or potential turnover should be automatically reviewed.

Neither do the refs or command centre.

10 hours ago, 17to85 said:

We're going to worry about Trevor Harris in a playoff game? 

Doesn't really matter who gets through the semi. Bomber can handle either team.

If the Bombers play anywhere near their capabilities, yes.

After what happened last GC against Fajardo, I’m never talking **** about a Bomber playoff opponent QB again.

38 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

After what happened last GC against Fajardo, I’m never talking **** about a Bomber playoff opponent QB again.

I'm unsure why that lesson has not been learned...yet 

4 hours ago, Sard said:

I don't know the rule, but I believe that it should be treated like any scoring or potential scoring play that automatically gets reviewed.  Any turnover or potential turnover should be automatically reviewed.

I thought it was reviewed bc it’s a potential turnover 

3 minutes ago, Zach Schnitzer said:

I thought it was reviewed bc it’s a potential turnover 

Nope. https://cfldb.ca/rulebook/instant-replay/command-centre/#r10s2a2

9 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

I don’t think the league is corrupt so to speak. I think there’s just a very, very subtle push to let things go the big market teams way. 
TSN doesn’t help this either, the way they slobber all over BC and the Argos 

Tt's not just big markets. TSN slobbers all over Milligan constantly for MOP. They still think that the Riders are the best fanbase in the CFL. 

11 hours ago, Nolby said:

My wifey isn't a fan of my "outta nowhere" gale force winds, at least they're flavored at times.

10 hours ago, Blue28 said:

If the league is supposed to review every turnover - how come the ford non-interception was left as is?

 

Because there is honestly & literally zero consistency to whatever criteria they use to decide whether or not to get involved...and it's utter b*llsh*t and even if it isn't, it reeks of favouritism.

4 hours ago, Mark H. said:

I'm unsure why that lesson has not been learned...yet 

Pride goeth before the autumn...or something like that.

18 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Because it was ruled incomplete on the field it wasn't automatically reviewable. But to me should have fallen under the obvious screwup umbrella where they are allowed to jump in anytime. See: random procedure penalty against the Bombers in week 1.

Yeah I'm not sure how the hell they ruled that incomplete. He was clearly in bounds. And no one saw the ball touch the ground (because it didn't). The refs just ****** that call up big time. And anything that close, should be looked at by the command centre. Just like when they overturned a call earlier this year because of illegal formation. That still pisses me off!!!

14 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Yeah I'm not sure how the hell they ruled that incomplete. He was clearly in bounds. And no one saw the ball touch the ground (because it didn't). The refs just ****** that call up big time. And anything that close, should be looked at by the command centre. Just like when they overturned a call earlier this year because of illegal formation. That still pisses me off!!!

they have stepped in a few times out of nowhere with some bizzare CC over turns....that one you mention being one....yet on a significant play that even to the initial naked eye looked like a clean pick...they just ignored it.....

18 minutes ago, Booch said:

they have stepped in a few times out of nowhere with some bizzare CC over turns....that one you mention being one....yet on a significant play that even to the initial naked eye looked like a clean pick...they just ignored it.....

The command centre incompetence is unfortunately a bigger story this year.  Ever since they allowed that clear non-catch from McSpitty Williams against the Bombers, I have had no faith in them.  Have no freaking idea how they could fix it either.

2 minutes ago, captaincanuck12 said:

The command centre incompetence is unfortunately a bigger story this year.  Ever since they allowed that clear non-catch from McSpitty Williams against the Bombers, I have had no faith in them.  Have no freaking idea how they could fix it either.

yeah...that was brutal and so obvious....and you forgot part of his name/legacy...it's Spitty McEyegouge....get it right!! lol

8 minutes ago, captaincanuck12 said:

The command centre incompetence is unfortunately a bigger story this year.  Ever since they allowed that clear non-catch from McSpitty Williams against the Bombers, I have had no faith in them.  Have no freaking idea how they could fix it either.

Fix it by micing the cc booth and letting them break down the replay as well as tsn. Don’t let them hide behind anonymity. Also grading official performances (including cc) and releasing them after each game (like mlb). Then simplify what they can and can’t review on their own and with a challenge. Finally, don’t have the CC exist to support the refs. Their primary job should be getting the call right not limiting embarrassment for refs. 
 For a bonus point, add a couple camera specifically for the end zone, side line and line of scrimmage. Nothing crazy, some thing parallel to the lines from each end. 
 Also give teams an official review per time out, and cap each review at say 2 minutes outside of the last 3. Last 3 let em have 3 minutes. 
 

Imagine what the league could do with a couple mid tier hobbyist drones, the line wire cam etc?