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Booch

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The bounces sure are going the Argos way this season. They find different ways to win every week. I've seen this act before. Usually, it lasts until the playoffs or Grey Cup. Then the bounces go the other way. Ask the 16-2 Esks in 1989 or the 16-2 Stamps in 2017. 

8 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Kelly is a weird dude.

In what way? Kelly was hyper when he was interviewed. Making them talk to a TSN sideline reporter as they come off the field never made sense to me. They need to have a few minutes to calm down before a camera is foisted upon them & they have to answer questions on tv. Some players handle it better than others.

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Game post-mortem:

Fajardo was not that bad in the game. He got pounded and yet came back to nearly win the game. If Montreal gets decent, consistent quarterbacking, and Stanback returns to form, they will be competitive.

Toronto is interesting to watch. Kelly was not as good as Fajardo but the Argo defence played just well enough to scrape out a win. The interesting part is that when Kelly is on the bench or standing on the sidelines, few of his teammates talk to him or high-five him- just the coaches, Argos look to have regressed the past two games and better get their poop together. The rest of the eastern teams are sooo much worse that the Argos are pretty much guaranteed a playoff spot but one bad playoff game will sink them.

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1 hour ago, Tracker said:

The rest of the eastern teams are sooo much worse that the Argos are pretty much guaranteed a playoff spot but one bad playoff game will sink them.

They clinched first place last night.....

And yes Faj is really that bad.

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1 hour ago, Tracker said:

Game post-mortem:

Fajardo was not that bad in the game. He got pounded and yet came back to nearly win the game. If Montreal gets decent, consistent quarterbacking, and Stanback returns to form, they will be competitive.

Toronto is interesting to watch. Kelly was not as good as Fajardo but the Argo defence played just well enough to scrape out a win. The interesting part is that when Kelly is on the bench or standing on the sidelines, few of his teammates talk to him or high-five him- just the coaches, Argos look to have regressed the past two games and better get their poop together. The rest of the eastern teams are sooo much worse that the Argos are pretty much guaranteed a playoff spot but one bad playoff game will sink them.

I think you're partially correct about some things, but a mile off on others... I'll do my post mortem Monday. Was interesting to watch because we weren't blowing a team out, we had to come back and it was the last game we'll play for real stakes untill November 11.(Nice sunny day on a Saturday so we're out for a ride.)

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Fajardo is 4-7 as Als starter.  0-6 vs Winnipeg, Toronto, BC.

Caleb Evans is 2-0.  Beat a somewhat decent team in Sask and led comeback to win in Ottawa.

Crazy to me that Fajardo is their guy.  Their only chance to win is to go run heavy and pass off that.  Fajardo is not a threat anymore with his limited mobility.  He can't pass well enough to threaten a defense if he can't move.

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4 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Fajardo is 4-7 as Als starter.  0-6 vs Winnipeg, Toronto, BC.

Caleb Evans is 2-0.  Beat a somewhat decent team in Sask and led comeback to win in Ottawa.

Crazy to me that Fajardo is their guy.  Their only chance to win is to go run heavy and pass off that.  Fajardo is not a threat anymore with his limited mobility.  He can't pass well enough to threaten a defense if he can't move.

And has zero presence in pocket now...had minimal before...but at least before he knew when to run..and when not to for most part...now it's totally opposite...he looks lost

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4 minutes ago, Booch said:

And has zero presence in pocket now...had minimal before...but at least before he knew when to run..and when not to for most part...now it's totally opposite...he looks lost

He has gotten happy feet now, when that happens shows whatever  confidence he had has gone. He did come back early in the second half as the coaches used some schemes that allowed  him to get the ball away early to slow down the rush, once TO adjusted in the fourth quarter he was done.

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11 minutes ago, Booch said:

And has zero presence in pocket now...had minimal before...but at least before he knew when to run..and when not to for most part...now it's totally opposite...he looks lost

I don't think he ever had presence in the pocket, his "good" year he hardly ever played the game from the pocket. Teams adapted though and started playing to keep him there and he is useless in the pocket. Just useless. Only thing the guy is good at are broken plays

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Finished my Re-watch. It was a lot less of a gut-wrenching rollercoaster the second time through it, thank Flutie.

Montreal found some ways to successfully attack the Argo D and to slow down our offence... No doubt that OCs & DCs around the league were taking notes.

 

  • The game started the way pretty much every single game has for us. We were moving the ball easily and it looked like we'd cruise out front to a solid lead and lock up the points... but then after we were up 7-3 our offence went stone cold. Like, glacial.
  • We set up to play them on D in what pretty much looked like a reaction to how we'd seen them before: we tried to take screens and deep balls away from them. Largely, this worked.
  • Best I can figure is that Montreal switched to having 2 Mikes. Sankey came in. Sort of a jumbo package?
  • This neutralized the Argos run game and without that being as reliable as it has been, we started seeing a lot of 2nd & longs.
  • And The Chad started missing targets. Pretty bad misses on a few. 
  • Still had a 10-3 lead at HT and figured like the half came at the right time so we could figure this out...
  • But it was the Alouettes who benefitted from the break. We got a quick FG, but they finally started having some time for Fajardo to operate. In the first half he had no time at all. Couldn't set himself, no chance to read the D before he was flushed or brought down. But now he had time and they had a new plan:
  • They took the time which they'd found for Cody and went after the receivers who had HBs and CBs laying 7 yards off of them. (That's a typical setup for the Argos, and when we have a two TD lead, like normally we do, we can sit back and go after them aggressively and force a turnover while they are rushing to try catching up to us.) Once the Alouettes changed their focus to just taking the free yards that were on offer, they marched downfield at will on us and Fajardo went on a crazy completion streak.
  • And then we were behind. And it felt a bit Playoff-y. Nobody has pushed us yet or forced us to dig ourselves out of trouble.
  • Peters' interception (and he needed to do something for us after that stupid misconduct he took for flexing over a player) happened because of the hit on Fajardo's backbone by Pickett who, yet again, had a monster game.
  • And yeah, the blocked kick (Sorry if it triggered any PTSD) we actually had two guys come through that gap... shame on their blocking.

 The Chad:

  • our "rookie" QB looked deadly in the No-Huddle. I wish we'd do that more, but maybe it is so effective for us because we only break it out now and then. 
  • He basically came out with the game on the line and engineered 2 straight touchdown drives (not his fault that the first one was called back by a senseless, unrelated to the play penalty). Poise & confidence. Particularly on that 2nd TD throw to Coxie (the one that counted). That looked like it was his third read and he launched it sky high to let his man run his way underneath it.

The Takeaways

  • It was a really good weekend for the Argos overall.
  • We lock up 1st on September 15th and don't have to play a game that matters for almost 2 months.
  • Great news for a team with some key injuries/niggles that need to be given time to heal. No more Bye weeks, but we can strategically "make" a few of them.
  • conversely, the Als and Tabbies are 6-6 each and will be killing themselves just to win the right to come play us.
  • and the West is still a fight for top spot too.
  • Bonus Takeaway: Tommy Nield is gonna be good. Already is.
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33 minutes ago, bluto said:

Finished my Re-watch. It was a lot less of a gut-wrenching rollercoaster the second time through it, thank Flutie.

Montreal found some ways to successfully attack the Argo D and to slow down our offence... No doubt that OCs & DCs around the league were taking notes.

 

  • The game started the way pretty much every single game has for us. We were moving the ball easily and it looked like we'd cruise out front to a solid lead and lock up the points... but then after we were up 7-3 our offence went stone cold. Like, glacial.
  • We set up to play them on D in what pretty much looked like a reaction to how we'd seen them before: we tried to take screens and deep balls away from them. Largely, this worked.
  • Best I can figure is that Montreal switched to having 2 Mikes. Sankey came in. Sort of a jumbo package?
  • This neutralized the Argos run game and without that being as reliable as it has been, we started seeing a lot of 2nd & longs.
  • And The Chad started missing targets. Pretty bad misses on a few. 
  • Still had a 10-3 lead at HT and figured like the half came at the right time so we could figure this out...
  • But it was the Alouettes who benefitted from the break. We got a quick FG, but they finally started having some time for Fajardo to operate. In the first half he had no time at all. Couldn't set himself, no chance to read the D before he was flushed or brought down. But now he had time and they had a new plan:
  • They took the time which they'd found for Cody and went after the receivers who had HBs and CBs laying 7 yards off of them. (That's a typical setup for the Argos, and when we have a two TD lead, like normally we do, we can sit back and go after them aggressively and force a turnover while they are rushing to try catching up to us.) Once the Alouettes changed their focus to just taking the free yards that were on offer, they marched downfield at will on us and Fajardo went on a crazy completion streak.
  • And then we were behind. And it felt a bit Playoff-y. Nobody has pushed us yet or forced us to dig ourselves out of trouble.
  • Peters' interception (and he needed to do something for us after that stupid misconduct he took for flexing over a player) happened because of the hit on Fajardo's backbone by Pickett who, yet again, had a monster game.
  • And yeah, the blocked kick (Sorry if it triggered any PTSD) we actually had two guys come through that gap... shame on their blocking.

 The Chad:

  • our "rookie" QB looked deadly in the No-Huddle. I wish we'd do that more, but maybe it is so effective for us because we only break it out now and then. 
  • He basically came out with the game on the line and engineered 2 straight touchdown drives (not his fault that the first one was called back by a senseless, unrelated to the play penalty). Poise & confidence. Particularly on that 2nd TD throw to Coxie (the one that counted). That looked like it was his third read and he launched it sky high to let his man run his way underneath it.

The Takeaways

  • It was a really good weekend for the Argos overall.
  • We lock up 1st on September 15th and don't have to play a game that matters for almost 2 months.
  • Great news for a team with some key injuries/niggles that need to be given time to heal. No more Bye weeks, but we can strategically "make" a few of them.
  • conversely, the Als and Tabbies are 6-6 each and will be killing themselves just to win the right to come play us.
  • and the West is still a fight for top spot too.
  • Bonus Takeaway: Tommy Nield is gonna be good. Already is.

Thanks for you thoughts- despite what @17to85 and @Noeller say, it's appreciated by some.

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