Taynted_Fayth Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 If this Knox experiment doesn't work, is there anyone out there we can airlift in? Could we talk Winston Venable out of retirement or would the argo's own his rights? SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Out Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 well crap. who else can we get to look terrible out there now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 That's a huge loss on D. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 Gonna sound like a broken record... but Kyler Elsworth is still out there, I thought he performed really well with Montreal... has CFL experience Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 Greg Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 The Stamps rose to the challenge when they lost what- 6 starters and still kicked the Bomber butts. Lets see how much grit this team has. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 It seems a lot of people are suggesting we replace our WIL LB with a MLB... I'd bet Jovan Santos-Knox (who looked pretty good in pre-season) will just get called up from the PR... I like Ian Wild... but perhaps we should have invested in Khalil Bass when we had a chance... #HindsightFTW Atomic and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) 3down nation says Quote Since joining Winnipeg in 2013, Wild has played in 49 games making 224 tackles, 46 special teams tackles, seven sacks, seven forced fumbles, scored two defensive touchdowns and recorded one interception. why would bring somebody in when we have two guys on the roster that play the same position. Edited July 11, 2017 by Mark F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 4 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said: Greg Jones No way that fat lump can play WILL LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 8 hours ago, Floyd said: Gonna sound like a broken record... but Kyler Elsworth is still out there, I thought he performed really well with Montreal... has CFL experience I'd be on board with this. Actually kinda surprised he isn't with someone already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 12 hours ago, White Out said: well crap. who else can we get to look terrible out there now? Ian Wild looked terrible? Do you even watch the games? lol wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 hour ago, SPuDS said: Ian Wild looked terrible? Do you even watch the games? lol He didn't do a single useful thing out there! (after he got injured) SPuDS, Noeller and Mark F 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgoldguy Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 Ian Wild is probably average at best among linebackers. His play had not been particularly impressive going back to last season. I think there was some here or the other Bomber forum suggesting he may be cut or serve as a backup going into the 2017 season. If the replacement cannot provide a reasonable facsimile of Wild's play over the next 6 weeks (small drop-off) then I will be really concerned about the Bombers' international recruiting. Of course, I already am concerned about the recruitment but moreso if Wild's replacement turns out to be a complete dud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, blueandgoldguy said: Ian Wild is probably average at best among linebackers. His play had not been particularly impressive going back to last season. I think there was some here or the other Bomber forum suggesting he may be cut or serve as a backup going into the 2017 season. If the replacement cannot provide a reasonable facsimile of Wild's play over the next 6 weeks (small drop-off) then I will be really concerned about the Bombers' international recruiting. Of course, I already am concerned about the recruitment but moreso if Wild's replacement turns out to be a complete dud. Ehhh... not so sure about that one. He's been the heart of the defence while healthy. Was on pace for 105 tackles last year which would have put him 4th in the league behind Elimimian, Bear Woods, and Bighill. Wild's problem is he can't stay healthy. Floyd, SPuDS, Tracker and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 Wild is looked upon as a smart, aggressive LBer who can cover on passing plays. As mentioned, the guy makes plays. But I guess this is an attempt to smudge the Scouting staff. Lets first see if no one else can play on the Wild side before we condemn anybody's recruiting... Sard and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted July 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: Wild is looked upon as a smart, aggressive LBer who can cover on passing plays. As mentioned, the guy makes plays. But I guess this is an attempt to smudge the Scouting staff. Lets first see if no one else can play on the Wild side before we condemn anybody's recruiting... I've always felt SAM was the position to be looked upon for more pass coverage. Wouldn't mind seeing Wild's replacement be sent in on more blitz packages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 Richie Hall NEEDS a guy with closing speed and anticipation like Wild... if Knox takes any time to adjust to the CFL game, Ray will make that side of the field pay - esp if Carmichael is given another shot Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgoldguy Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, Atomic said: Ehhh... not so sure about that one. He's been the heart of the defence while healthy. Was on pace for 105 tackles last year which would have put him 4th in the league behind Elimimian, Bear Woods, and Bighill. Wild's problem is he can't stay healthy. Health is a factor, but tackles are an over-rated stat. You would have to look at those tackles in more detail - tackles for losses, tackles for gains of less than 5 yards, 5-10 yards, etc. Also the stats for tackles may be called into question as the statistician may identify the wrong person who made the tackle. This happens quite frequently in the NFL so I'm sure it happens quite frequently here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, blueandgoldguy said: Health is a factor, but tackles are an over-rated stat. You would have to look at those tackles in more detail - tackles for losses, tackles for gains of less than 5 yards, 5-10 yards, etc. Also the stats for tackles may be called into question as the statistician may identify the wrong person who made the tackle. This happens quite frequently in the NFL so I'm sure it happens quite frequently here as well. True. But I mean, I've also watched all the games, in many cases multiple times, and I'm pretty confident in saying that Wild is a top-tier linebacker in the CFL. Citing tackle numbers is just a lot easier than going through and pointing at every play he has or has not made. In the end it's just an opinion either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 Tackles as an overrated stat? So, I guess non-tackles are an underrated stat.? To me, when a guy has an armful of tackles, it means he is in on the play..a lot. I can't see how that can be a bad stat for that player to have on his record. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 5 hours ago, SPuDS said: Ian Wild looked terrible? Do you even watch the games? lol Becoming obvious that some of these people are fans of other teams that post just to annoy people. blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Floyd said: Richie Hall NEEDS a guy with closing speed and anticipation like Wild... if Knox takes any time to adjust to the CFL game, Ray will make that side of the field pay - esp if Carmichael is given another shot how do you know knox will take Wild's spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, Mark F said: how do you know knox will take Wild's spot? This thing called practice reports and media tweets. SPuDS and blue_gold_84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 practice reports? Have not seen one since training camp. Where are they? last time wild got injured a linebacker did not replace him. a starting DB moved up to take his spot. At least that's why I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mr Dee said: Wild is looked upon as a smart, aggressive LBer who can cover on passing plays. As mentioned, the guy makes plays. But I guess this is an attempt to smudge the Scouting staff. Lets first see if no one else can play on the Wild side before we condemn anybody's recruiting... Wild had a rough year last year. He missed a TON of tackles. Couple that with the fact that he cant stay healthy and he's an average linebacker at best. Steady, but never really stands out in a good way or influences the game with big tackles/plays. He's serviceable but i could see getting the same production out of knox and/or santos-knox. Edited July 11, 2017 by Bubba Zanetti voodoochylde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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