US Politics

[HardCoreBlue]

7 minutes ago, Mark F said:

Leading republican candidate for senate, georgia, herschell walker. "Dry mist" instant covid remover.

 

 

I don't make light of this at all, but CTE.

[rebusrankin]

So MTG missed all those bible passages about loving our neighbour as ourselves and helping the poor, widows, orphans and aliens (foreigners aka people who would be refuges etc)?

[JCon]

1 minute ago, rebusrankin said:

So MTG missed all those bible passages about loving our neighbour as ourselves and helping the poor, widows, orphans and aliens (foreigners aka people who would be refuges etc)?

People just make up whatever they want. 

[17to85]

1 minute ago, rebusrankin said:

So MTG missed all those bible passages about loving our neighbour as ourselves and helping the poor, widows, orphans and aliens (foreigners aka people who would be refuges etc)?

Yeah they don't like that middle eastern brown socialist guy called Jesus, they prefer angry vengeful old testament God. 

I mean Jesus held some pretty strong views that run very contrary to these evangelical Christian teachings. 

[Bigblue204]

38 minutes ago, Mark F said:

Leading republican candidate for senate, georgia, herschell walker. "Dry mist" instant covid remover.

 

 

To be fair to him, I think he might be talking about a combination of UV light and air filtration. I remember hearing something about a system like that, that could theoretically be installed just inside door ways. But It wouldn't clean people of covid just the air in the building. And as far as I know it hasn't been developed at all.

[Tracker]

34 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah they don't like that middle eastern brown socialist guy called Jesus, they prefer angry vengeful old testament God. 

I mean Jesus held some pretty strong views that run very contrary to these evangelical Christian teachings. 

Heretic! 

[rebusrankin]

52 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah they don't like that middle eastern brown socialist guy called Jesus, they prefer angry vengeful old testament God. 

I mean Jesus held some pretty strong views that run very contrary to these evangelical Christian teachings. 

That Old Testament God talks a lot about taking care of the poor, widows, orphans and aliens. Many such passages in the Pentatuch (first five books), Psalms, Proverbs and the OT prophetic books. 

[bustamente]

Pretty well every Republican who holds office atm, Trump is the biggest POS but I will still vote for him. America

[17to85]

36 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

That Old Testament God talks a lot about taking care of the poor, widows, orphans and aliens. Many such passages in the Pentatuch (first five books), Psalms, Proverbs and the OT prophetic books. 

Yeah but then there's all the other stuff where he is killing all sorts of unbelievers and sinners and punishing people for this or that.  Bottom line the old testament is all over the map. 

Ned Flanders "I've done everything the Bible asks, even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff"

[Mark F]

There is a lot of  smiting in old testament. 
 

" I told him, if you're going to the red sea, make sure you have your life jacket handy, but would he listen?"

..... Mrs. Pharaoh.

Edited April 28, 2022 by Mark F

[bustamente]

By the time the 1/6 committee have their hearing in June Trump will be back on Twitter so that will be interesting with all the word salad that comes out of his pie hole because many had told him and he hears that his lawyering skills are above most.

[Wideleft]

Fla. law made school book bans easier. So one man challenged the Bible.

The man petitioning to ban the Bible says it is just as sexually explicit and violent as other books facing challenges

 

By Hannah Natanson

Today at 11:47 a.m. EDT

 

It was Florida’s move to reject 54 math textbooks for “prohibited subjects” that made up Chaz Stevens’s mind: It was time to go after the Bible.

Stevens, a 57-year-old tech wizard with a history of pulling wacky political stunts, had already been tracking the progress of a new state law that makes it easier for parents and county residents to challenge books in schools. The provision, which comes amid an unprecedented nationwide spike in challenges to books — particularly those by and about LGBTQ and Black people — was signed by Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) in late March. It takes effect July 1. But Stevens decided he could not wait a moment longer.

As of Wednesday, he has filed near-identical petitions with 63 Florida school districts asking to ban the Bible. He has also filed a second petition with one district, Broward County Public Schools, requesting the removal of the Oxford English Dictionary.

His three-page petition critiques the Bible for its depictions of bestiality and cannibalism, its “eye-popping passages of babies being smashed against the rocks” in Psalms 137 and its “strong pro-slavery position,” citing Ephesians 6:5-7.

“As the Bible casually references ... such topics as murder, adultery, sexual immorality, and fornication — or as I like to think, Date Night Friday Night — do we really want to teach our youth about drunken orgies?” the petition asks.

Schools nationwide are quietly removing books from their libraries

Stevens’s subsequent complaint against the dictionary calls it “a weighty tome over 1,000 years old, containing more than 600,000 words; all very troubling if we’re trying to keep our youth from learning about race, gender, sex, and such.”

Although Stevens’s petitions are tongue-in-cheek, legal experts said his actions highlight flaws and constitutional concerns surrounding Florida’s new law and others like it — and could lead to serious litigation down the line.

Erica Goldberg, a University of Dayton Law School professor who studies First Amendment rights, said Stevens’s petitions could showcase that the new law may cause school boards to engage in “viewpoint discrimination,” or removing information because of dislike of the ideas it contains, which is impermissible per the Supreme Court.

She noted that the Bible is replete with episodes of violence and sexual abuse, including the rape of Dinah in Genesis, which leads her brothers Levi and Simeon to kill every man in the city of Shechem to avenge her honor; the incestuous rape of King David’s daughter Tamar by her half brother Amnon; and the brutal dismemberment of a concubine in Judges. She said the Bible is at least as sexually explicit as some of the books parents are labeling inappropriate, raising the question: Why can the Bible stay in the library when those books have to go?

“This stunt is going to illuminate," she added. “Many of our First Amendment rights get meted out by edge cases or by people looking to make statements.”

(more) https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/04/28/bible-book-ban-florida/

[blue_gold_84]

At least Roger Stone's sanity is back on stable ground: https://hillreporter.com/watch-roger-stone-claims-there-is-a-satanic-portal-over-the-wh-that-can-only-be-closed-through-prayer-130277

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...Stone has taken to conspiracy theories. And he told a whopper recently when he claimed that there was a satanic portal over the White House.

The dirty trickster told Robin Bullock, “We who believe, we can close the portal, but we can only close it through prayer. Massive prayer, millions of Christians praying to close the portal.”

Stone continued, “It’s like a swirling cauldron. I’ve tried to find some natural explanation: a reflection or an aerostat balloon for weather. No. I sent a personal friend down there—he thought I was crazy—I said, ‘Do me a favor, go down there, use a regular digital camera and see what you see.”

The conspiracy theorist closed:

“It’s very, very clear. It doesn’t move, day or night. It’s harder to see during the day, but you see it at night. And I’m absolutely convinced about the inherent evil of what’s going on in the White House, what’s going on in the country, and I think it’s imperative that people know about this, that people of good faith and Christians know about this, and we begin a national, essentially a prayer assault to close the portal.”

[iHeart]

They don't need prayer, Trump merely forgot to close the portal on his way out 

[bustamente]

She left dumb a long time ago but does she realize it

 

[Tracker]

Pregnancy From Rape Is 'An Opportunity' For Women, Says Republican Trying To Ban Abortion

Rape is bad, but not bad enough to warrant an abortion, according to one Republican lawmaker from Ohio.

State Rep. Jean Schmidt (R) introduced her anti-abortion measure in front of the Ohio House Government Oversight Committee on Wednesday. The bill, H.B. 598, is a trigger ban that would outlaw all abortions in the state if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, the landmark decision that expanded access to abortion nationwide. Similar to other GOP anti-abortion measures flooding red states right now, Schmidt’s trigger ban does not include exceptions for rape or incest.

Schmidt, a former U.S. congresswoman who once infamously discussed abortion with a class of elementary school students, defended her decision to not include these exceptions during committee debate. She argued that a pregnancy from rape is actually a chance for a woman to raise a child, send them to live with a family member or put them up for adoption. That hypothetical child, she argued, could someday cure cancer.

“Rape is a difficult issue and it emotionally scars the individual, all or in part, for the rest of their life ― just as child abuse does. But if a baby is created, it is a human life and whether that mother ends that pregnancy or not the scars will not go away, period,” said Schmidt.

“It is a shame that it happens, but there’s an opportunity for that woman – no matter how young or old she is ― to make a determination about what she’s going to do to help that life be a productive human being. … That child can grow up and be something magnificent, a wonderful family person, cure cancer, etc.,” she continued. “This is not about keeping abortion alive, this is about keeping the mother alive, and just because you have emotional scars doesn’t give you the right to take a life.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pregnancy-rape-rep-jean-schmidt-abortion-rights_n_626ad352e4b01131b1207beb

(When you think about it a minute, there are way more felons than cancer-curing scientists, so the probability of that child's future would tilt towards being a felon)

[Mark F]

The hand maid's tail. Coming true.

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, Mark F said:

The hand maid's tail. Coming true.

Is this an anthropological or sexual reference?

[JCon]

 

How does Fox get around campaign finance laws? 

I'm just kidding there are none. You can literally buy any politician.

[HardCoreBlue]

9 minutes ago, JCon said:

 

How does Fox get around campaign finance laws? 

I'm just kidding there are none. You can literally buy any politician.

Hey we’re just entertainment. Talk show hosts. No one takes us seriously. 76 million people say what?

[TrueBlue4ever]

So digging j to the Hannity story, one thing he wrote was:

Sean Hannity to Mark Meadows

I've had my team digging into the numbers. There is no way Biden got these numbers. Just mathematically impossible. It's so sad for this country they can pull this off in 2020. We need a major breakthrough, a video, something.

 

And in reference to an interview that Maria Bartiromo of Fox had with Trump where she pre-fed him the questions, one was this:

 

You've said MANY TIMES THIS ELECTION IS RIGGED... And the facts are on your side. Let's start there. What are the facts? Characterize what took place here. Then I will drill down on the fraud including the statistical impossibilities of Biden magic (federalist).

 

The underlining is mine. Does anyone know what these “mathematical and statistical  impossibilites” they are referring to are about? Is it simply that their projections of how many votes Biden was going to get based on their models were undervalued, and simply wrong? Or is there something more to it? Because if it is just that the anti-Trump voter turnout was bigger than they predicted, then the whole “rigged election” lie seems to be founded on nothing more than their buy-in of Trump’s assertion that “Biden could not fathomably get those votes because I say so, and I don’t really have anything other than my ego to substantiate the claim”. Or is their some kind of actual mathematical anomaly they are relying on (not enough to prove fraud, but some kind of hard numbers they are hanging their hat on)?

[bustamente]

You don't think that Tucker actually believes all the **** that comes out of his mouth, he has pretty well said that he lies on air and can't be held responsible for what he says and that has made him the most popular host on tv right now and he isn't going to stop the shtick, same goes for fluffy and nazi barbie it's their meal ticket.

[Tracker]

2 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Hey we’re just entertainment. Talk show hosts. No one takes us seriously. 76 million people say what?

They ought to be mandated to say at the beginning of every show and every interview that what they are presenting is entertainment and opinion but having nothing at all to do with reality.

[TrueBlue4ever]

2 hours ago, bustamente said:

You don't think that Tucker actually believes all the **** that comes out of his mouth, he has pretty well said that he lies on air and can't be held responsible for what he says and that has made him the most popular host on tv right now and he isn't going to stop the shtick, same goes for fluffy and nazi barbie it's their meal ticket.

I would think that what Hannity writes in a personal e-mail would be more his true belief, especially to Meadows who does not need to be conned into believing the big lie. Unless Hannity does not know how to turn off his BS meter, or thinks plying along ingratiates him to the political big wigs. Just wondering what these magic stats they are referring to are about and what “proof” or “facts” they are supposed to provide. 

[HardCoreBlue]

52 minutes ago, Tracker said:

They ought to be mandated to say at the beginning of every show and every interview that what they are presenting is entertainment and opinion but having nothing at all to do with reality.

At least a warning like you shouldn’t drink or smoke if you’re pregnant sort of thing.