Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/jared-kushner-michael-flynn-russia/index.html

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Jared Kushner is the "very senior member" of President Donald Trump's transition team who directed incoming national security adviser Michael Flynn to contact the Russian ambassador to the United States and other countries about a UN Security Council vote on Israeli settlements, sources familiar with the matter tell CNN

 

 

 

5 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

The guy is Teflon. Nothing will happen, sadly.  His base doesn't care. He'll claim #fakenews & his Minions will breathlessly believe him.

If the Dems fake control next year he’ll be impeached. If there is criminal wrong doing he might be forced out. Mueller will try to leverage his kids and see if Donald will let his kids go down.

the talk of his mental fitness makes me wonder if it’s creating a scenario where he might resign or be 25’ed our due to mental issues and use that as a defence to crimes. 

This is really stupid.  We're to believe Trump has a lawyer with him every time he tweets?  At all hours of the day and night?  We're to believe these really stupid things he tweets are written by lawyers, vetted and sent to the social media team?  To believe that is to believe everyone around Trump is as stupid as he is.

 

I hope Mueller brings Conway in and asks her under oath if what she said is true.  There is talk of bringing in Trump's lawyer who claimed he wrote the "fired Flynn for lying to the FBI" tweet and asking him if that was true.  And if it was true, Trump should fire that lawyer because that tweet was an admission of obstruction.

 

Edited December 4, 20178 yr by The Unknown Poster

So I see now Trump's lawyer is claiming the President cannot commit obstruction under the constitution.  Im not sure that argument worked out for Nixon.  My question is, if you have a legal strategy, especially if you think it has merit, why wouldn't you keep it to yourself?  Is this a form of "chill", an effort to warn off the special counsel?  Because if Im Mueller now, I know I cant come with simply an obstruction charge.  He will come at Trump with more.

I think its more likely an effort to create acceptance on the part of Trump's base and some Republican's that Mueller needs to be "reigned in", ie. fired.  Trump will fire him.  Or more accurately, he will order Sessions or his Assistant to fire him.  Will they comply?  What a firestorm that will be.

The Murican political landscape is a gong show right now. I can't believe this is what's happening.

He's trying to distance himself from his own tweets. Some poor underling is going to be blamed for poor editing and content managing.

Birds of a feather 

 

1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said:

He's trying to distance himself from his own tweets. Some poor underling is going to be blamed for poor editing and content managing.

Supposedly under the law it doesn't matter who wrote the tweets, he sent them out and according to lawyer and noted ambulance chaser, Mark Geragos this is called an adoptive admission. So whatever his lawyer is trying to do won't work and just adds to the stupidity that's going on in American politics.

4 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Supposedly under the law it doesn't matter who wrote the tweets, he sent them out and according to lawyer and noted ambulance chaser, Mark Geragos this is called an adoptive admission. So whatever his lawyer is trying to do won't work and just adds to the stupidity that's going on in American politics.

I think they are just trying to create enough confusion that Trump can order Mueller be fired and as many people as possible will say "I dont know whats right but this whole thing is nuts so it sounds reasonable that we should just end it".  The question is, when Trump gets to the point (and I think he will) of ordering Mueller's dismissal, will THAT be enough to finally turn the Republican against him?

So, after all this White House blather about how Twitter is Trump's direct line to the people....to circumvent the "fake news" mainstream media....

.....we are supposed to believe..... that without Trump's knowledge - his lawyer uses that account to tweet out a message, that actually puts his client in legal jeopardy.

Well, perhaps while the pig was flying past the White House window.

 

What a meal.  Scrambled egg of lies, with a side order of falsehoods....

 

Edited December 4, 20178 yr by do or die

Even this guy gets it 

 

3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Birds of a feather

Deny together.

Manafort isn’t the brightest guy 

 

3 hours ago, bustamente said:

Supposedly under the law it doesn't matter who wrote the tweets, he sent them out and according to lawyer and noted ambulance chaser, Mark Geragos this is called an adoptive admission. So whatever his lawyer is trying to do won't work and just adds to the stupidity that's going on in American politics.

What fookin lawyer who still has a license, is going to admit to doing  sending out tweets for trump? with the mountain of excrement that is falling on trump?

And why would a fookin lawyer be sitting around the whitehouse sending out this crap at three A.M?

We're in the twilight zone now.

I think Trump needs a period of rest and relaxation at Pink mountain.

Edited December 5, 20178 yr by Mark F

https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/4/16735910/trump-national-monuments-utah-bears-ears-grand-staircase-escalante-cuts

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/06/568832606/franken-under-pressure-as-group-democratic-senators-call-for-him-to-resign

http://people.com/politics/gay-man-challenges-kim-davis-county-clerk-seat/?utm_campaign=peoplemag&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_facebook_peoplemag

 

 

Edited December 7, 20178 yr by iHeart

 

 

Isn’t this sort of the same thing that Franken resigned over?  I guess we can expect Trump’s resignation any day now 

 

There are few words to describe how vile Trump is to support Moore and call the victims liars. It’s just so gross. 

And apparently FOX tweeted that she forged the year book and deleted the tweet because she could sue them. 

This clown is going to win. Disgusting. 

 

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

There are few words to describe how vile Trump is to support Moore and call the victims liars. It’s just so gross. 

And apparently FOX tweeted that she forged the year book and deleted the tweet because she could sue them. 

This clown is going to win. Disgusting. 

 

Sure Moore has a chance to win, look who the American's elected POTUS, a guy who claimed he could do anything to women , claimed he could shoot any body in Time Square and get away with it, been sued 1000's of times had a fake university, unfairly treated workers, had countless women accuse him of harassment, and can barley put 2 sentences together unless it's in front of a teleprompter. Now that's presidential material. If the Democrats ever get control of the Senate or House of Representatives or both then you'll see some real fire works.