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11 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:
I agree. People here often form a life-long opinion based on one bad play. Not saying he's only made one bad play. Every player makes bad plays. But Toby takes a lot of heat. Plus, if you're small, you're already hated by a segment of fans.
My impression was Toby likes it here and the Jets like Toby. Clearly, he's not making $5+ next contract but if they came up with something easy. Realistically, if toby leaves, they are looking for another LHD anyway. So if they re-sign him at a good rate, whats the problem?
The only concern is health. If he's in the plans as the #2 or even #3 LHD, he has to be healthy more than he's not.
Regardless, Chiarot is playing very well and you have to pat Morrow on the back too. We're missing half our starting D corp right now and still winning.
I have been quite critical of Enstrom at times. To play defence in the NHL at his size there is not much margin for error. In the past there has been too much error.
This season has been a lot better. Even if he isn't physical, he has had sound body and stick positioning when defending. He just hasn't been healthy.
This season he's been our 2nd best defenceman on that side. The Jets are better with him in the lineup and hopefully he's ready for the playoffs.
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2 hours ago, Floyd said:
Colin Kaepernik with extended workout for Als... would love to see him sign with Montreal - would be great for the CFL
And it would mean Als wouldn't have capspace for Muamba...
Unfortunately the title "greatest QB ever in CFL history" has already been claimed by Manziel, so CK will have to settle for beating Manziel's CFL passing records. First completed pass should do it.
Muamba capspace benefit aside, I would prefer he sign somewhere other than Montreal - I'm enjoying their dumpster-fireness of late.
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34 minutes ago, Rich said:
I call this PR
Edit: To be clear, I didn't intend the PR comment to be negative thing. PR is public relations, and he is managing the relationship with the public here.
Every press conference is a PR move. I'm not sure why people get weird about that abbreviation. Maybe it's too close to PC?
There's a lot being read into this that isn't there. Seems pretty straight forward. We made our best offer, they want more. We won't/can't go higher and after 3 weeks they have made no move to go lower. They haven't called us back. We're assuming they're not interested, we're moving on. And, just for comparison and perspective, the amount of money they wanted was more than what we're paying Harris, who is our highest paid Canadian.
Good on Walters for politely and publicly telling Hardaway we're done with his nonsense. If Muamba wanted to be in Montreal and he was getting a better offer from Montreal, he would have already signed there. So at least one of those two things isn't the case. Does Hardaway call us back now? Maybe, but unlikely. That means he has to be the one bringing flowers this time. He won't want to lose face to do our deal, and he can't save face without Walters' help. Another trip to the podium and some more PR.
But enough reality, too boring. Let's go back to the version where Muamba was screaming into the phone at Walters "YO MOTHERFARMER, MAKE ME THE HIGHEST PAID CANADIAN IN THE LEAGUE OR I'M SLITTING YOUR THROAT AND USING YOUR CORPSE FOR A DIAPER GENIE!", or something like that.
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I just feel bad for Comrie's parents. How do they go outside and face the neighbours after a showing like that? Even if the local grocer delivers, can you trust that he won't just fling the milk and eggs at the front door in disgust?
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1 hour ago, Atomic said:
"Alliance of American Football"? That really the best they could come up with?
"Vince McMahon can kiss my AAF!!!" - Charlie Ebersol
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5 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:
Why is it bad to want a certain matchup? Rivalries within the division/conference are fun, especially in the post-season.
And you know karma isn't a thing, right...?
There are those who think the Jets not tanking and still ending up with Patrik Laine would indicate otherwise.
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15 hours ago, Gotmilt said:
IMO this is just as big as any free agent signing so far this season, this kid was an SEC star.
Sounds like a gooder. But pre-camp hype usually ends up as a kiss of death for these guys...
Short term he's probably playing for a PR spot. If SAM projects as his best fit in the CFL, that's a pretty steep learning curve anyway. Different landmarks, covering an ocean of space for what feels like an eternity, and that sweet sweet waggle.
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I like the ratio flexibility that Muamba would provide and I hope we can find a way to sign him. I would prefer to not have to declare more than 5 NI's on offence until it is necessitated by injury.
That said, he wasn't scheduled to be a free agent this year. This team had a plan for the roster and who they wanted to sign. Presumably they have already done that.
If we are unable to sign Muamba, it does not affect the plan. Muamba was never part of the plan. He is an unexpected opportunity; one I hope we can take advantage of.
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While it's pretty difficult to quantify talent as you move deeper into the roster, describing our NI depth as razor-thin seems way off the mark. I'd expect that at least 4 teams in the league would gladly trade for our terrible NI predicament.
So which unrealistic expectation is the reason for describing our NI roster as razor-thin?
- The idea that our 7th NI starter isn't as good as our 1st?
- The idea that half of our NI's probably aren't good enough to be trusted with regular snaps on the starting 24?
- The idea that if we have a couple of injuries to our 7 starters our team won't be nearly as good as when they were healthy?
Seems to me all 9 teams are in that same situation.
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2 hours ago, nate007 said:
I see that they're doing the 40 yard dash at the Convention Centre. Anyone know how they plan to do this? temporary turf? Run it on carpet? Seems strange to not do it at a field house with artificial turf.
Slip-n-slide w/Mazola*.
*sponsored by the Canadian Knee Surgeons Association
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Also, keep in mind that while getting Muamba would be really helpful, it's because of the ratio flexibility he offers, not necessarily because he'll play the position any better than Bobby Import Jr (2nd generation CFLer).
There are pros and cons to signing Muamba. I'm entirely in favour of doing it, but that doesn't mean we're screwed if we don't, and we might find a really good use for the money we saved come October.
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13 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:
My thoughts exactly. If Muamba's ask seems unreasonable to Walters, it leads me to think the team is tighter to the cap than I thought. And that's troubling.
Sort of but not exactly. You have to budget for all sorts of things including money yet to be spent. Draft picks still need to be signed. Guys will get injured. Players will still come available in the fall after the NFL makes it's cuts.
The team will budget most likely according to position groupings and then signed according to those budgets. This year QBs probably got more than last, but the DL group might have been less. Receivers are probably higher, RB's higher, secondary level, LB's lower, Oline higher. So now after FA has started and you've signed players within those budgets, finding an extra $120,000 (over S-Knox) for your MAC who came available after these decisions were already made isn't so easy. You can sneak 10k here and there from these other areas, but that still doesn't get to $120k.
So if Walters wants to make this happen he has to do something irresponsible and take money away from one of those original 3 groups. I'm sure some of what we're offering came from there as well, but you can't leave those accounts empty. That's like the City of Winnipeg fixing a pool with money from the snow clearing budget and hoping this year it stays above zero during winter. It's a bad idea.
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11 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:
$190-200K for Muamba seems about right for a ratio breaking NI who plays like Import, especially one who plays a position that we need. I wonder what the Bombers think a 'strong pitch' is.
Probably a multi-year deal where they add money to year 2 and/or 3 to make up for what they aren't able to offer in year 1 due to cap limitations.
Considering Muamba has recently got burned on the off-season bonus along with several high-profile players, I can see why an offer that has less up-front cash and more deferred would be unappealing.
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1 minute ago, Mark F said:
lower upper body?
upper lower body?
To be specific, it's the lower-upper part of their front-back on the left-right side.
The Jets aren't likely to alter their playoff-seeding at this point, so while it would be nice if our guys were back this week, anytime before the playoffs will make me not have the sadsies.
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1 hour ago, tracker said:
And this is where Muamba's strip-tease act could cost him.
What does this even mean?
What is the difference between him signing with someone tomorrow vs 2 weeks ago? Or 2 weeks from now? None.
Maybe he's considering retirement. Maybe someone is his family is getting tested for a health issue, and the answer would be the deciding factor as to whether he plays close to home or not. Maybe he's spending two weeks on the beach before the season starts. Maybe as a Christian he has decided to spend a few weeks praying. Or all of the above. Or none.
This age of instant information has created a weird atmosphere of entitlement. There are a lot of people here who have zero information and choose to fill in those blanks by thinking he's being a Richard. Why? The only thing I've ever heard him publicly say about his free agency was his "working on it" comment on twitter, which was simply a non-response to a fan question.
Those who prefer to fill in the blanks that way are saying volumes more about their character.
As for his value, he is an undisputed starter-caliber Canadian playing at a non-traditional position. For the teams wanting Muamba's services, there is no "blue-chip" player that will negatively affect his value. Until he proves it on the field, every blue-chip player is just the next Duane Slay or Aaron Maybin. Maybe Jevaris Jones is going to be a 2018 CFL all-star. For now he is nothing but another name, maybe the first cut in rookie camp. Whomever doesn't sign Muamba will be forced to use that guy. The only way they are choosing to use that guy is once they can't afford Muamba. That guy will have zero impact on how much Muamba gets paid.
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5 hours ago, Firekid said:
I heard that Dunk reported that Henoc is all but signed in Mtl. I heard that it was simply money related? I can't seem to find anything on this so called report though or any tweets about it. Has anyone heard anything or seen anything on this?
His parents still live in Montreal as far as I know. So no, it wouldn't be simply money related.
6 hours ago, tracker said:O'Shea, of all people ought to understand the impact of an dominant MLB, so let's get this done.
Getting Muamba is not the be-all end-all when it comes to having a dominant middle linebacker. There are plenty of comparably skilled linebackers out there (or better) that will cost us a lot less. They don't have a Canadian passport though. My Canadian passport cost around $80. Henoc's is worth at least $110,000, as that's the extra dough someone will have to pay him over a comparable import.
I agree with KBF that signing Muamba could be the tipping point for us winning the cup this year, but it's because of the ratio flexibility he would give us at other positions on the field when injuries pile up over 18+ games, not because without him tackles won't get made in the middle.
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2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:
any word on Schief?
Who honna da Schiefs?
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Edited above post. Also, I think I'll go for Chinese tonight.
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1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:
If we sign Muamba and have to cut someone else to do it, will you have the same complaint about Walters? (Asking for a friend
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No one has to cut anyone at this time of year to sign another player*, and in May everyone will have to cut about 35 players because of signing more than 46. And all 9 teams will have to balance talent, ratio and salary when selecting those 35 casualties, just like every other year. So your question doesn't really work - any signing will result in a player getting cut once we're beyond 46**.
*unless they somehow were silly enough to exceed the offseason roster max in March.
** + IR, +6g IR, + PR, + + + since it's the CFL afterall.
Edit - Obviously I realize a logical explanation is pointless considering TBurg is simply being argumentative, but I figured what the hey, it's Friday. And even though everything I put in the above statement is not opinion, but FACTUAL, he will likely choose to argue it anyways. And he can find someone else to participate in this silliness with, because I don't care.
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41 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:
I was going to say that too but thought no one would know who that was.
He hosted "Lifestyles Of The Rich And Famous" back in the 80's.
Gave us our first chance to see what a useless human being Trump was.
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16 minutes ago, Goalie said:
Lol. Seriously? U just being argumentative for no reason or ?? Same as the last 2 years. You dont see it? Thats YO problem
Irony much?
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1 hour ago, WBBFanWest said:
There is no contract once he's released. He can try and propose the former contract's terms but the simple argument to counter that is "If the Riders didn't think you were worth keeping with that contract, why would we?" The best I would do is offer him a fair contract and then offer to throw in paid storage for his tour bus until February of next year.
Of course there's no contract.
That's why we have no business pointing to the money he's already received this year:
2 hours ago, Taynted_Fayth said:The riders already paid him $35K in Jan i think that may play into teams being reluctant on his signing bonus, might even be the hold up
Game 77 : Goldeyes @ Cubs
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Because Floyd always blames Maurice.
Woof that was a stinker. I guess it's to be expected now that other teams are putting their shutdown lines against Tanev. Jets will need to find some secondary scoring soon.