wayner

I been thinking alot about the plight of our great sport and league and here's my 2 cents. Start a "gofundme" for each team in every city, I would immediately give $100 - $200 dollars towards saving the CFL no problem, maybe the Feds would make it tax deductabie and that could be their contribution. Is this a crazy fan talking out his butt or would it possibly work.

I been thinking alot about the plight of our great sport and league and here's my 2 cents. Start a "gofundme" for each team in every city, I would immediately give $100 - $200 dollars towards saving the CFL no problem, maybe the Feds would make it tax deductabie and that could be their contribution. Is this a crazy fan talking out his butt or would it possibly work.

Thanks Goalie

How childish.  What a joke of an organization.

Was never told how much the CFL sucked until the Riders started losing. Weird.

Doesn't Willy always wear his helmet on the sidelines?  

We nearly had 3 more picks on D.....

Wow wbbfan - really? On the verge of being pulled. Tell you what I saw - I saw Nichols throw an INT - I saw Toronto march it down then I saw the Wpg Defense (which I chose in fantasy football this week ) intercept him. Then I saw Nichols smartly march the ball downfield to get a field goal. After than, after every Argo turnover - I saw Nichols march it in the end zone. 
I've also seen this story before, with the bomber d getting turnovers, and I saw Drew Willy do absolutely NOTHING with the ball except a two and out (if you were lucky) or turn it right back over to them.
Even though he has been hurt a lot, when healthy, Willy has been given every opportunity to prove himself. More than enough. He has been given enough to hang himself with about 5 times already, and he unfortunately he has. 
Nichols being pulled - LMAO - WBBFAN - only way Nichols is going to be pulled from a game is if he carried out on a stretcher. It's not even a discussion, he's the Bomber #1 QB now. And it gets better I'm afraid (for all Willy fans) as next up after a bye is Montreal - bombers most likely win that game (would have won the home opener if Nichols started) then it's very conceivable the bombers sweep the mess that is the Sk Roughriders.
The question I have is will Willy even be on the team? If I were O'Shea, and if for whatever reason Nichols has to be 'pulled' from the game - I'm putting Davis in. No way no how I'm paying 400 grand to a 'backup' and at that salary Willy is untradeable. You can't give him away at that salary. He will be released if things stay the same. Willy is a terrible starting QB - he's a backup at best and should be paid as one. If he has any decency, he'll re-sign in Wpg at a backup rate - if not - he'll move on to the east (maybe Toronto or Montreal). I can't see him back in Sk either - Jones would have no interest in him.

This is hilarious really. 3 plays where it nearly cost us dearly? That probably happens in every friggin' game.
And I'll tell you, there are probably 3 plays every game that we can say it nearly could have won us the game.

This simply isn't true.

The irony of this post is so far off the charts its ridiculous. When people were critical of Willy earlier in the year it was the total opposite. It's not 1 player, etc etc. 

I didn't get the memo about his being close to getting pulled, but I do realize he wasn't performing well. Yet, because it's a team game, we were still in it until his performance picked up, which it did. We're winning, with Nichols only playing average, so isn't that a good thing?
Will Nichols play lights out in the future? - I don't know.
Will the ST keep playing in a very solid manner? - I believe they will.
Will the defence keep getting us those turnovers? - Maybe not to the extent they have been, but yes, I believe they will.
Will Medlock keep his kicking up and above average? - There is little to believe that he won't keep it up.
Its football, and right now we're outperforming other teams...for a variety of different reasons. Yes, it's on every player to pick up when another lets down, and that's what the Bombers are doing.
Its bad enough when we pick on player's poor performances when we lose, but to dwell on them when we win? I don't see the point. We all understand how it works.
 
 

I have two tickets to give away for tomorrow's game in sec 231 row 3, let me know asap. First come first sevre.

None of us said Willy sucks, which goes back to the point I made earlier about people being unable to read and communicate without making things up or assuming things they haven't even read. Very hard to discuss football when that's all people ever want to do here.
 
Reilly with the Esks last year was pretty amazing last year, much like this year.
 
Not just his stats but he continually made something out of nothign all year long and was a treat to watch. Sure they didn't want very much, but they lost 7 games by only 5 points or less and many of those games could of and some of  them, should of(if not very getting screwed over by refs) went there way.
 
That being said, Reilly is a great example, because the biggest positive he has as a quarterback, much like Willy, is the fact that he is incredibly tough. Both of them can take a tremendous beating and it's exactly more of a surprise when they take a beating and do get injured. Most other QBs or football players for that matter, if they take a beating like Reilly took in 2013/2014 and Willy took this year, you expect them to get injured, these guys though it seems to take a real freak accident to injure either of them.
 
The above is precisely why even though i ranked Willy so low on the QB rankings in the other thread I still think he is one of the biggest assets to have as a QB in the CFL. Both his college and his pro career, he has had remarkably very few injuries, which means he can have a very long career IF he can continue to improve. One of the keys to building a long term top echelon team, is having a long term top echelon QB, which I fully believe Willy is capable of being. The only problem is we did NOT foster a very good envronment for Willy to learn and improve as the year progressed, and we did NOT help him in achieving that goal this year. Rather than learn more and more as the year went on, he regressed with each and every game, and this started very early in the year, not half way through.
 
Willy had started the year off very impressively, using many quick hitters to help keep the offense in sync and set a tempo moving the offense doing the field. Eventually the offense started to struggle with this and got into a little bit of a funk and then found success throwing deep balls. Willy used this success to open up the field a bit more but rather than going back to the quick hitters, he stuck with the deep balls. At once stage he was even preaching them in interviews after games, even after a loss against Saskatchewan where overcomitting to the deep balls was pretty much the primary reason we lost, instead of saying we were a bit over ambitious and greedy on some plays, he basically said I don't regret going for it on 2nd and short, we were so close to connecting on a few of those and if they had connected it would have been a different game. Basically then he continues on and starts preeching that he just needs to get better at hitting the deep balls and the success will continue. This is the point that I really began to worry and this is the point that our offensive coordinator should of been crapping his pants too. Instead he must of been partially responsible for what Willy was preeching because each and every week under his tutelage Willy progressively got worse and worse and worse and worse at the quick hitters to the point where he would rarely even attempt to do them anymore. When he did attempt them, the play designed usually loooked like the receiver would of been able to make a huge gain, BUT the throw was usually that half second to full second late and allowed the defense to recover and limit the gain.
 
This is also where bringing in Romby Bryant started a huge decline in our offense, with him vs JFG, they thought they had a veteran speed demon and would be able to attack defenses in the back frequently. Instead the opposite happened, Bryant running wrong routes or Willy misjudging Bryants angle with him being a new/unfamiliar receiver. This meant trouble because Bryant wasn't just brought in to be a statue, he was brought in to be one of our big play receivers, and both O'Shea and Bellefool were doing to try their best to make sure Bryant worked out. Our offense actually got worse and worse the more Bryant played and the less JFG played. In the end the only thing this helped was ensure Willy would start staring down Bryant trying to get a grasp of what he's going to do, usually guessing wrong and losing more and more confidence in himself and the offense. As the confidence went down the quicker hitters again just get worse and worse the pocket awareness goes out the window and the QB starts moving randomly around in the pocket rather than gliding up or down the pocket to find better thowing angles. Also, I believe the 5-1 start was probably the worst thing that could of happened to us this year, along with the comebacks(some of which were more fluke than anything) that contributed to Willy getting an overblown degree of self confidence and not being able to think as clearly as when the season first started. Which along with Bellefool's messed up offensive mind, led to Willy throw more and more and more deepballs rather than concentrating on driving the ball down the field keepiing a rhythm and keeping the offense going. That might have been a reasonable or plausible strategy if we had any remote resemblence of a half decent run game to give our QB more time to throw. But, as well know Grigsby wasn't scaring anybody into putting any sort of extra coverage on him.
 
This over blown degree of self confidence could have and would have been held in check better, if he didn't such an extremely long leash. This leash would have been understandable if he had been an all star calibre QB for a couple years or if he wasn't having more difficulty with each progressing game. Sure he has good chance of becoming our long term starting QB, but not if we don't coach him properly or help him realize when he's banging his head against a brick wall and making things worse instead of better. Again, the problem with that 5-1 start along with his very good stats, were it put him into a trap of giving him such a long leash where at began to not matter how badly he played if he did anything remotely positive in any game, he would not have to worry about any QB taking some of his playing time. The point of having some or any of his playign time taking away isn't to put pressure on him or to make him worry about his job, it's to help acclimate him to the offense at a slower more realistic pace and give him the opportunity to see what the offense can or should look like from a different perspective.
 
We know the offensive line is NOT top tier or top echoelon, or even average for the matter, however they were good enough to allow Willy to put up hug enumbers early in the year when he was throwing quick hitters and not over thinking what he was doing, and with him doing this even with a crappy o-line and horrible running back, both our passing attack and running game was functioning. The more Willy was encouraged to try unreliable and risky throws, the more his play suffered, the more he began to overthink things, the more he began to panick in the pocket and the more of a beaten he took. End result was more and more interceptions, punts and frustration on our offense as a whole. This is in LARGE part on the offensive coordinator and the QB coach by not keeping hin in check, and not calling a better game, Bellefool was calling a game assuming Romby Bryant is Duron Carter or DeSean Jackson back there, which is sheer idiocy.
 
With all that said even with the bad habits he picked up from our terrible offensive coordinator, who also happened to do an amazing job of making Anthony Calvillo look like crap, Willy still overalll this year has performed admirably well. He has still kept his percentage up for most of the year and kept a relatively close TD to interception ratio and likely would of had pretty freaking amazing stats as a first year first string starting QB. I"m hoping it's not too late and he's not goign to commit to learning too much of what he's learned in the last two thirds of this year and turn these things into bad habits, if he does or if Bellefool remains our OC next year, he may end up cutting Willy's career a lot shorter than it would have been or should be. Currently Willy has hit a curve and has fallen off of it, I got no problem with letting him play, as I said already, he's pretty durable QB and even with the beating he may take, he'll likely survive. However despite what people are saying, he won't learn anythign positive from it under the tutelage of Bellefool, he may have success because of the situation and Calgary not giving a crap, but nothing much will be gained of it. Currently he looks to have fallen so far off the curve that he's both emotionally, physically and mentally drained, his release is about a quarter the speed it was when he started the year and there is a very high probability that he will take a beating that he could avoid if he was in a state that allowed him to better think and react on his feet and a very high probability that the game will be extremely boring. Marve on the other hand will make crap up as he goes along, won't give a crap what garbage Bellefool has taught him and will give us a very entertaining game. Given that the game is essentially meaningless and none of our QBs willl learn a thing from playing in it, I want Marve to play because I want to at least be entertained with some entertaining football on the last Bomber game of the year.

Saw this on Facebook... the Winnipeg Police twitter feed had this picture:
 

So the fact the o-line was in a continual state of upheaval for reviewing and evaluations to be made is lost on you then? You've watched... Well listened anyway... to football long enough to know olines simply cannot be thrown together and expect to look like mid-season form.. This is weak, even by your standards...
Also, wylie (and company) will turn our line of hogs into a solid unit, able to provide time to our QB stable.. you can think otherwise but you will be wrong..

You're also cherry picking a bit, but I'm sure you knew that. It's easy to say that Etcheverry's defense was weak in 2010 (especially their defensive line) after he lost a ton of personnel from the previous season.
 
And hey, they still went to the Grey Cup.
 
None of that makes him a great or even a good defensive coordinator, but cherry picking statistics that have everything to do with personnel that won't be wearing blue and gold makes little sense. Maybe for speculation. But to use it and try to prove anything definitively? Not likely.

I am not a fan of Etch but we need to give him time to see if his defense works here. Two preseason games with basic schemes AND probably thirty percent of the players won't ever be in a lineup this year.

Every time I read one of your posts, I feel like I'm getting dumber.

If parties want to form a coalition it should be done before the election so voters know what to expect from a government if they're going to vote for that party. I tend to vote Conservative, but if they really ticked me off I could vote Liberal as well... but there is no way in hell I would ever vote for the NDP so having the NDP in any kind of significant role in governing is something I very much do not want to see. 

I stand corrected.  And it would have been wrong if he had done it.  I bet the liberals thought it was wrong too....until they wanted to try it.

its undesirable because its not what Canadians intend when they vote.  Period.

The difference (and Im not condoning it) is that Paul Martin was not elected to be Prime Minister by the voters.  Lets not debate the nuances of our political system.  When most Canadians vote, they are voting for the Prime Minister which is why the poll of "who do Canadian view as most Prime Ministerial" is very important.
 
And I cringed at the idea of ANY coalition with the BQ.

This is wrong in practice.  Its a weakness of our political system.
 
I dare say most people vote for the party they want to run government, much like in the US (though its more the person and the party).  The coalition attempts were plain disgusting in my view.  Its was pure arrogance on the part of the liberals to lose the election and then claim they HAVE to form a coalition (with separatists no less) because only THEY can deliver to Canadian what they really need, even when those same Canadians voted for a Cons government.  What a joke that would have been.
 
The GG did the right thing by staying out of it.  And Harper absolutely did the right thing by not allowing turncoat liberals to hand the balance of power in Canadian politics to seperatists.  And then he went out and won a majority.  So you tell me, what did Canadians want?  I realise that lefties always think they know whats best for everyone even those people that dont want it.  But it's not true.  The people voted.  And thats why Harper has been a LOOOOONG standing Prime Minister.
 
Im still waiting for the soldiers in the streets, the death penalty debate, the abortion debate etc etc etc.  You know, all those terrible things Stephen Harper was going to do when he won a majority.  All Harper has done is been a good statesmen, keep his election promises, steer us through a global melt down (that even other countries envied Canada for).
 
Bottom line is, NO government will ever be for ALL the people.  But the vast majority of whining about Harper is personal or ridiculous.  If you want to say the Cons shouldn't have lowered the GST, thats a debate I can get behind.  But to hang nonsense around the neck of the PM who KEEPS GETTING ELECTED is silly.
 
It sucked when Cretien went nuts and we suffered through.  But we did suffer through.  And then, we voted him out.  So go vote.  And if the people speak, then so be it. 
 
But dont tell me Justin will be a better PM based on his hair and last name.

I didn't like the idea of it back then either. Here's why I find the idea of a coalition between 3 parties undesirable.... They have too many differences between them and it's just a power grab. As much as the system isn't set up that way, the simple fact of the matter is people elected a specific party to govern and they did not want some amalgamation of other parties to run the country.