Posts posted by Mark H.
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2 hours ago, Tracker said: Agreed. Anyone can have an off year, but two bad years back to back are a pattern. Yes, the OC and O-line were poor last year, but a pattern is a pattern and Zach has a history of injuries that are increasingly difficult to bounce back from. Elgersma looks like he could be our QB of the future and he didn't arrive any too soon.
We all know the reasons why ZC had a resurgence after he came here in 2019. Top notch pass pro, a great running game and sure-handed receivers who also played the game tough as nails and complimented his style of play. The past 2 seasons, they have not provided him with anything even close to that. In fact, the offensive rostering and planning has been borderline inexplicable.
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7 hours ago, GCn20 said: Yeah.. all starts by rookie Strev on a broken foot and probably the main reason we went shopping for ZC. No one here is knocking ZCs contribution to our Grey Cup, just pointing out that Nichols was having a very strong season that year and played the best football of his career pre injury. We may have won the cup with him as well.
Streveler suffered that foot injury in week 19
All of this is fair enough. I just don't find it necessary to hang the game manager label on ZC. Both QBs have their strengths and weaknesses. ZC is better at pushing the ball downfield, and this made a difference.
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7 hours ago, Booch said: Taylor...Maston and how utilized BA turned it all around and morphed the defense into the juggernaut...thtat's where the season turned and was pre ZC
ZC came in and got the rust knocked off in the last game and the WSF...and then managed the Grey Cup perfectly
They had lost 4 of 5 before the ZC trade. There was a game vs. Hamilton that was just an absolute mess.
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17 hours ago, rebusrankin said: Nichols helped bring us back to respectability and into contention.
Zach helped put us over the top in 2019.
1000%. That 2019 team was 11 - 7, had their up and downs and got their butts handed to them a few times. When they really put it all together, ZC was the QB. And no, he didn't just 'manage' every game.
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3 hours ago, Jesse said: But what do you mean by "turn a profit"?
Are you only referring to what the team makes through ticket sales, food, merch?
Or are you including TV deal, gambling and league advertising revenue? No, the new moves will not improve attendance. But they will inject new moey into the league which is distributed to teams regardless of high or low attendance.
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10 hours ago, Jesse said: But what do you mean by "turn a profit"?
Are you only referring to what the team makes through ticket sales, food, merch?
Or are you including TV deal, gambling and league advertising revenue? No, the new moves will not improve attendance. But they will inject new moey into the league which is distributed to teams regardless of high or low attendance.
Turning a profit = making money. Winnipeg turns a profit, Toronto bleeds red. The primary reason for the difference is live game attendance.
10 hours ago, Jesse said: But what do you mean by "turn a profit"?
Are you only referring to what the team makes through ticket sales, food, merch?
Or are you including TV deal, gambling and league advertising revenue? No, the new moves will not improve attendance. But they will inject new moey into the league which is distributed to teams regardless of high or low attendance.
Turning a profit = making money. Winnipeg turns a profit, Toronto bleeds red. The primary reason for the difference is live game attendance.
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2 hours ago, Jesse said: Attendance is not the only factor anymore.
Play-off games have double the TV audience, Ad revenues sold by the league instead of the teams, additional gambling revenue (which is where all the new money is coming from). All of this will affect the TV deal which is currently being negotiated.
I don't think the league cares if people buy tickets or not for the additional games. It's not why these moves are being made.
The teams with good attendance are the ones turning a profit. IMO, they are gambling on the revenue streams you mention - and hoping they'll be the new difference makers
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I agree with starting in May and having the playoff games earlier. I've been of that opinion for years.
But playing 18 games to eliminate 1 team from the playoffs, just makes no sense whatsoever.
The burning issue is those cities where hardly anyone attends games. 8 teams in the play offs does nothing to address that.
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7 hours ago, Jesse said: He was drafted less than 1 year ago and then spent all of preseason with the NFL up until final cuts about 7 months ago.
I understand people want him to make the commitment to the CFL, but until May, he hasn't really missed any unexpected time at all.
In his mind, he is trying to parlay some UFL time into another NFL camp and that process hasn't played through yet. And until it does, any expectation that he's just going to pack it in is nonsensical.
Realism appreciated.
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21 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: IIRC there were notices sent out to schools in early 2022, that next variant (omicron?) would be hard on kids
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The Retirement Thread
in Winnipeg Jets Discussion
Boys will be boys, eh.