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Couldn't est any run game. Dropped TD's from McRae and Schoen. Brady fumble. Collaros and Woli combine to create pick six. Then totes (as the kids say - or said?) collapse MULTIPLE times by the D.
Yikes. Wow. Wowza. Holy crow.
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I am speechless. Or close... I will say found it weird (at the time) decision for O’Shea to run the ball on 2nd and 7 giving them the ball with 1:24 on clock. Looks like terrible judgment now.
Also, after the game... Doug Brown had the temerity to suggest the loss was deflating. O'Shea's response? “It’s NOT deflating! I don't think anyone’s ‘deflated’”…with tone.
This is what drives me nuts about coach. Love him for the two cups but, yikes, not deflating? Please...don't insult fans' intelligence.
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Punt hit white sideline stripe about a yard out before it hit cone.
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4 hours ago, JCon said:
I don't really understand the narrative that Piggy somehow showed us something great in pre-season? It was pre-season, against a terrible team, playing their soon-to-be cut training camp players.
Was it fun? Absolutely, but he is also very raw and the opposition knew nothing about him. He needs lots of development and the Bombers have prioritized experience.
Don’t necessarily disagree with the decision. I am simply acknowledging that he showed potential and that, as such, we may come to regret this. I don’t think those are incompatible sentiments…
ie. It may both make sense at this time and ultimately also prove to have been a bit shortsighted. I am also disagreeing that he had his chance in real game conditions and “blew it”. He didn’t see the field enough IMO to Definitively “blow it”.
Again, can’t disagree with MOS cuz I don’t know the backstory and can see where they like Prukop.
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55 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:
Dont like that he got cut but Piggy had his chance W1 against HAM and blew it
Bit harsh, no? Didn’t he get a grand total of 2 plays?
Given what he showed in the preseason I gotta assume there’s other stuff going into this decision. Regardless, I share the sense of loss given the potential I witnessed at both games I saw him play.
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8 hours ago, Brandon said:
With all the worries about the d-line and lb crew... are we not allowed to recruit guys come NFL cut day or even before?
If memory serves, the Canadian mafia have never been a big “recruit the NFL cuts” regime. They tend much more to be, “we like the roster we have”
Regarding Liegghio, how can we be surprised? The only thing surprising is how many heavily defended him last year even through the debacle of the playoffs and especially the putridity – is that a word? – of his grey cup performance. I mean we know that O’Shea has a defend/deny/deflect strategy with the media but that doesn’t mean the rest of us have to buy it.
When they recruited Medlock and brought in Castillo in ‘21 the blue brass seem to recognize the critical nature of controlling those variables that are within your control – i.e. ensuring you have a reliable kicker. There is no championship team without one. That was what was so weird about their “strategy” last year.
I have no problem with coach’s strategy of bs’ing with the media as long as behind the scenes he recognizes there’s a problem and deals with it. But that’s not what happened last year.
but now Legs is gone and I, for one, breathe a sigh of relief.
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10 minutes ago, Wideleft said:
When your kicker is forced to punt 8 times, it's not the kicker's fault we lost. As for the punting, the wind definitely seemed to be a factor and we did nothing into the wind with the best running attack in the league.
All of this is of course true. The offense sucked in almost every possible way except for Brady Oliveira. But it is a bit comical to not acknowledge that our kicker made a major contribution to the loss as well. It is not an either or equation. Yes, we didn’t really deserve to win yesterday because of our all-around play on offense. And it is also true that one of the things a team can do to give itself the best chance of success is ensure they have a reliable kicker. Championship teams have this. This was true for Blue in 2019 and 2021. It was not true, however, throughout the 2022 season, and yesterday it definitely bit us in the ass.
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8 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
They do know the rules. On a kickoff the receiving player can step out of bounds, stay out of bounds, and field the ball in bounds and it is considered an illegal kickoff. Illegal participation is where a player goes out of bounds without being forced out and re-enters the field of play to play the ball. Here the BC player deliberately stepped out of bounds and fielded the ball, which makes the ball out of bounds.
I guess what I’m still trying to understand is why there is any need for this rule as outlined above? Why not play it like any punt (except for the fact you can strategically punt ball out)? Seems straightforward enough. If the ball goes out of bounds on its own it’s an illegal kick off. But if the ball remains in the field of play, no matter how close to the sidelines is without going out, the receiving player must play the ball. Or risk of being recovered by the other team. At the very least the rule as it is written seems directly at odds with the illegal participation rule. It is confusing at best. That said, the bombers did not protest in any way (special teams coach look depressed rather than outraged) so they must’ve known that is the rule.
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Very good to see Brown
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3 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:
I looked it up. In the Banjo Bowl in 2012, in the game after the Labour Day 52-0 massacre in Regina, the Bombers were up 23-22 with 55 seconds left in the game. We were in FG range. Instead of sending out Palardy, Burke sends out Renaud to punt the ball through the end zone, making the score 24-22. Why?? What was the freaking point of that?? So Renaud kicks the ball through the end zone, and Drew Willy marches the Riders back up the field and with 4 seconds left Sandro Deangelis kicks the winning FG. Burke you bozo....just unbelievable. We had really nothing to lose if Palardy misses the FG, we were still up by one and Sask was in the same place down one point or two. It was so dumb.
This is some good research. I remember that game well. The only thing that remember differently is that Burke did not trust Palardy's field goal kicking so - instead of attempting the 42 yard field goal - sent the punter out (Renaud?) to try to pin the Riders deep (i.e. in fairness to Burke, he was not trying for the extra point, but trying for the field position to make Willy march the full length). Then Renaud did not execute the plan and kicked in through, giving the Riders the ball on the 35 (much more doable to get into field goal range). After the game what was maybe most memorable to me was that Burke threw Renaud under the bus publicly.
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10 hours ago, 17to85 said:
because his growth as a player is obvious to anyone who doesn't fly off the handle at every misstep.
You still hate Harjalahu because he dared to have ups and down as a rookie now he's an NFL level kicker.
Well, I don't know if it's a matter of hate. O'Shea moved on from Hajrullahu, not because anyone hated him, but because the coach determined - in H's second year - that he had not been good enough. His rookie year (2014), was outstanding, which is what bought him so much leash the next year. What's a bit mystifying to me is, at that time, the Blue went out and got Medlock despite H's potential because coach said that the position was simply too critical to experiment with for any length of time. But here we are...
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10 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Castillo may be 78.3% but most of us would trust that he'd kick a game winning FG in a regular season or Grey Cup game when it was all on the line. We don't have that same trust with Legghio. I think we all knew at some point, he'd cost us a game with his inconsistency. Someone name me the pressure kicks he's made to win games for us when everything is on the line the past 2 seasons. I sure can't because he hasn't.
Castillo 5 for 5 in Grey Cup.
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11 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:
Wondering is Trevor Kennard a close comparison to our kicking situation? If I’m not mistaken he shanked a few game winners at the beginning of his career? He played mostly before my time though so I’m not sure if it’s apt or not.
I also feel Liegghio is the best punter in the league right now, it’s just the clutch FGs and converts. I’d at least cut Mortada and audition some FG specialist imports on the PR.I am old enough to remember Kennerd. He was good before he got shaky. So different situation IMO. Leggs has been shaky the whole way. Totally looks overwhelmed/nervous/about to caca the pants every time he steps out, esp for the "must haves". I have zero confidence in him. He HAS rounded into form as an excellent punter, so agree there.
11 hours ago, Noeller said:Nice to see absolute morons return to MBB on cue...
K, that's a sweet burn. I might be guilty as charged. 😀
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3 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:
WTF Lowry! Down 1 with the power play, 1.5 left and you're in Boston's end for the draw.
PULL THE ****** GOALIE ALREADY!
Truth.
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Agreed. Clean goal. How many f%#@-ing times can one team lose in the last 2 min of a game in one season? They can be very infuriating to watch. Very good road game. Very good third period, in particular, only to do that... again. Seriously, does anyone know how many gane winning goals we've given up in the last 2-3 min of a game this year? It's gutting.
That said, ur right. gotta score more than one. A lot of chances to pot the winner in the 3rd and just can't finish.
But Connor... by jeezuz... get the puck out or get off if ur too tired.
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52 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said:
We need to clinch the West division first by beating the Leos next week. Then he can have majority of the snaps on all remaining games.
Do you really imagine that that will ever happen with MOS?
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On 2019-11-06 at 9:53 AM, Goalie said:
I'll go ahead and go there...
If he had a classic mr burns change of heart again and wants to play the final year and a half of his deal.. I would strongly consider moving him at the deadline, honestly, hes not the only vet id look at moving, little and if possible Wheeler and definitely Kulikov.. Its just time to hand it over to the true Jets 2.0
I sure do agree with most of this. Esp the first part in bold above, 'cept I'd put it even stronger: i.e. If Buff decides he want to play again I am shopping him hard. Whatever the elixir, the team chemistry and work ethic this year has been notably stronger than last, and Buff was a big part of last year (and the 7 before that).
Don't get me wrong: there's something very likeable about Buff, beyond his huge presence, shot, and undeniable skills. In some ways, he has a winning personality too.
That said, he has often taken large chunks of the reg season off, with a penchant to float during the unsexy, "doing-the-laundry" parts of the year. I have noticed, in the past - albeit just eye test - that when Buff is injured during the regular season the Jets overall team defence seems to improve. I think if you go back to their reg season record without Buff we'd find the Jets actually do pretty good (often better?) without him. Happy be be corrected with actual numbers, as admittedly that's just my gut sense of it.
In the playoffs? Different story. There, he shows up. Usually big time. BUT...at 34 years of age, he just aint gonna be getting better and - when coupled with whatever the H-E double hockey-sticks has being going on with him since training camp walk out PLUS the fact that the Jets are doing fine without him...well, to me it becomes a no-brainer.
I do NOT want him back on this team at this point. And, if I'm Chevy, I'm moving him for a regular contributor plus prospects.
Do not agree with the second bolded part above, though: i.e. def NOT moving Wheeler. He is still the heart beat of the leadership group and - since Little went down again - has absolutely demonstrated his versatility and value, driving the second line. Hell, 2 games ago against Big D, he went something like 85% or 89% in the face-off circle and is also an iron-man type. Nope, hang on to Wheeler for this year, esp if we are looking like a playoff team, which we are. The rest I agree with. Thx.
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5 hours ago, Floyd said:
Except no one said that. I just said Harris was in beast mode and Collaros is great in the pocket. You're taking this a little personally.
I said in another thread that Lapo called a good game... but he called a bad game against Sask - he's a decent OC not a great one.
Relax, man.
Here's exactly what you said:
"...(Lapo's) gadget play direct snap to Demski killed our momentum... Collaros ability to survive pocket pressure while Lapo’s plays develop is what saved us.., that and Harris in beast mode and getting 5 Yards after being tackled."
So, your words clearly present or strongly imply the following arguments:
1) That Lapo is to blame for "killing our momentum" because he called a direct snap to Demski.
2) That "Lapo's plays" are too slow to develop and that it is only "Collaros' ability to survive pocket pressure" that "saved us" (i.e. saved us from what? - well, you make it clear: from the slowness of Lapo's plays to develop). As such, you clearly imply that Collaros should get the credit for the success of those plays and that they occurred in spite of Lapo's incompetence, not because of any competence he may bring.
3) That Harris being "in beast mode" and breaking tackles is also what "saved us" (i.e. saved us from what? - from Lapo's play calling. Again, you make the link clear from your inclusion of the phrase "that and". Ergo, again, Harris gets credit for successful long runs in spite of Lapo in your world).
Finally, your argument that I am "taking this a little personally" is particularly hilarious inasmuch as I presented a clear rationale critiquing your logic (and decidedly not you, personally, in any way). It was you, ironically, who turned it personal by telling me I was "taking this a little personally" and that I should "relax."
I have a better idea than me "relaxing" (I'm smiling as I write this so I'm pretty chill, man): Why don't you either explain your logic and clearly illustrate what I was missing about your original post or - using a rational argument of your own - actually refute what I have written in my response post rather that turning to Ad hominen before - again, hilariously - accusing me of the same.
Enjoy the victory, man. On that we can agree, I hope.
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3 hours ago, Dr Zaius said:
We had 8 turn overs, and 7 FG attempts. lapo called a good game at the biggest stage, but if we lost that game Hall would have stabbed him in the callers booth. There was some testicular fortitude in his play calling which was nice to see but I still want him to walk.
So, your team has just won the championship. And you want to fire members if its coaching staff?
This is unorthodox thinking.
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4 hours ago, Floyd said:
I’m not apologizing to Lapo - he’s not a great OC... his gadget play direct snap to Demski killed our momentum... Collaros ability to survive pocket pressure while Lapo’s plays develop is what saved us.., that and Harris in beast mode and getting 5 Yards after being tackled
So, let me get this straight: when the offense succeeds it’s because of Collaros and Harris and how skilled they are, no credit to our offensive coordinator whatsoever.
But when the offense struggles in any way whatsoever, now THAT has nothing to do with players or their execution but is instead 100% on the OC and his schemes and calls?
Your reasoning, as presented, is a classic illustration of a phenomenon called fundamental attribution error or confirmation bias.
Look it up… It’s a real thing. And you are in its grip.
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30 minutes ago, gcn11 said:
Lapo and Hall both called excellent games on Sunday. Stalled drives just might be attributed to Hamilton's number one defence doing their best to keep them in the game. End of the day when you hang 30+ on their defence, and you keep their O to under 15 points your coordinators have done an excellent job preparing the players, game planning and calling plays. Those are just the facts. There have been times each of these guys have deserved criticism, but you have to be highly biased not to give these guys their due for Sunday.
This. 100% bang-on post. Thank you!
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25 minutes ago, Floyd said:
I’m not apologizing to Lapo - he’s not a great OC... his gadget play direct snap to Demski killed our momentum... Collaros ability to survive pocket pressure while Lapo’s plays develop is what saved us.., that and Harris in beast mode and getting 5 Yards after being tackled
So, I guess the answer is no, then? As in you won’t shut up about Lapo, even for a week? And you are rejecting my modest proposal for peace during this celebration?
ps. Didn’t ask you to apologize, BTW. I just asked you to park it for a week. 😀
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