Mark F Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 The Jets need to keep Ladd. FrostyWinnipeg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) If there have been no contract discussions since December and the Jets are dead set at trading Ladd, why is he playing tonight if he gets injured nothing happens at the deadline and Ladd will hold all the power you will have to give him what he wants or he will walk and the Jets get nothing. Since he is playing i believe the Jets have not closed the door yet and there is a possibility that he will be signed soon. Edited February 24, 2016 by bustamente Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Is Ladd going to make us a contender or just tie up cap space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Just now, rebusrankin said: Is Ladd going to make us a contender or just tie up cap space? No one player can make a team a cup contender. It's more like will retaining Ladd help put us over the top from pretenders to contenders? With what he's shown and with what's coming up the ranks I'd say possibly yes. Trading away Ladd I sense we break even unless Chevy completely hoodwinks someone. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueballz Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Too bad the upcoming draft class is pretty weak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 5 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said: Hopefully Bowman spends a lot of time studying Enstrom tonight. yeesh, after watching Toby totally fumble around with the puck in his own end, I hope no one is studying Enstrom tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 44 minutes ago, Blueballz said: Too bad the upcoming draft class is pretty weak... Thank the tank! We'll get one of the few gems available I think. Blueballz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Draft isn't as deep as last year's but should be some good players in the 2nd possible 3rd rounds still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said: No one player can make a team a cup contender. It's more like will retaining Ladd help put us over the top from pretenders to contenders? With what he's shown and with what's coming up the ranks I'd say possibly yes. Trading away Ladd I sense we break even unless Chevy completely hoodwinks someone. You want to surround your great prospects with the right kind of vets who can teach them properly. That's what Ladd can do. I'm not sure how much longer he should be wearing the C and playing big minutes but I like him as a L2/L3 W for another 5 years if we can pay him as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) He turned down 6 x 6. Ladd is not worth 6 million as a 3rd line winger. It's 2 bad his contract demands are so unreasonable. Rumours have him wanting close to 7 million per year. That's 2 much Edited February 24, 2016 by Goalie Ducky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Will be interesting what happens in the summer. If the free agent market collapses and he ends up taking less to go somewhere else the egg will be on his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Ladd can say all the right things about the city and about the team but in the end he is 30 years old and this is his last contract so he wants max dollars and truthfully i don't think he cares where he plays as long as he gets the money he is looking for, will he get it as a free agent, does he even become a free agent we will see. blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 He's going to be traded. Probably tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Trevor Hagan @wpgphotog Walked behind Brandy Ladd as I was heading to media room. She said a nice farewell to each usher she passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 I should clarify, Ladd on a five year deal at second/third line money would be fine. Ladd for 6-7 million a year, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Thing of the Ladds like it here. And have roots here and everything else then it might be a business but you still need to make a decision about your life. Lots of people take less money to work where they want to. I think ladd is pressured a lot by the PA. $36m. Plus his prior earnings. In a middle class city like winnipeg. How much does he need. Is $3-$4m going to make all the difference to him? Yeah it's a lot of money. But love in Vancouver or New York. That will eat that money up and then some. Wheeler saying he couldn't believe this is happening. Well if ladd took what wheeler took or a bit less he'd be here long term FrostyWinnipeg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 It's his last contract, I don't begrudge him wanting to be paid... He's been underpaid by the Jets for year, why play for less any longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 If I was a media member... I'd ask wheeler this Do you want to play with your friends and lose or do you want to win. I think there are some issues here. Wheeler can't believe it? It's a business man. Get over it. You are paid to play hockey. I get these guys are friends but bottom line is this group has been together a while now and can't get the job done. Bottom line here is if this group proves they were a playoff team...Ladd would probably be signed. But at almost 7 million a year... not a chance. Change is needed. Big time and wheeler as much as I like him... if he doesn't want to be here cuz Ladd won't be...get rid of him also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 I don't think wheeler would want to leave over ladd. I'm not sure they are the two closest guys. Buff and ladd have been and buff didn't seem to have a problem moving on without ladd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueballz Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Ladd for a 1st rounder and prospects...get 'er done. Keep restocking the "shelves". No need to drag this out any longer. Like Ladd the person, class act but as a player don't think he's worth what he's asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, Blueballz said: Ladd for a 1st rounder and prospects...get 'er done. Keep restocking the "shelves". No need to drag this out any longer. Like Ladd the person, class act but as a player don't think he's worth what he's asking. No point in rushing the trade, Ladd is the top guy in the market so Chevy definitely will get an offer that will benefit us greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) Myers, a 3rd and Petan to Deadmonton for Hall and a 2nd. Ladd and Chiarot to Chicago for Schmaltz, Pokka and a 2017 3rd rounder. Staf and a 3rd to Florida for Mike Matheson and a 1st. Burmi and Pavs and Peluso to the Blues for a first. Thorbs and Stu to the Pens for a 3rd in 2016 and a 3rd in 2017. We trade away about 25m per year in Ladd, Myers, Chiarot, Petan, Thorbs, Burmi, Stu, Pavs, and Peluso. (traded two 3rds got 3 back). We get back Smaltz (1st round pick), Hall (1LW that is 24), St. Louis' 1st, Florida's 1st, Deadmonton's 2nd, Mike Matheson (1st round pick and first year LHD), a 3rd and that is about 8m in salary. Trade some picks and prospects for Hamonic. With the cash savings we are able to land a couple of UFAs like Okposo (6x6) to take Staf's place. Next year... Hall Scheif Ehlers 12.6 Connor Little Wheeler 11.3 Armia Perreault Okposo 11 Lemieux Lowry Schmaltz 4 Trouba Buff 13 Enstrom Hamonic 9.65 Matheson Pokka 2 Helle Hutch 2 Carry Morrissey, Copp and Postma in the press box. 3 Scheif and Trouba signed long-term to 5.6m per year deals. A playoff caliber team with 3 rookies on the team and a payroll of around 69m with a lot of picks and prospects still in the cupboard. Edited February 24, 2016 by Ducky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 That's insane. But I like your creativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 7 hours ago, Ducky said: Myers, a 3rd and Petan to Deadmonton for Hall and a 2nd. Ladd and Chiarot to Chicago for Schmaltz, Pokka and a 2017 3rd rounder. Staf and a 3rd to Florida for Mike Matheson and a 1st. Burmi and Pavs and Peluso to the Blues for a first. Thorbs and Stu to the Pens for a 3rd in 2016 and a 3rd in 2017. We trade away about 25m per year in Ladd, Myers, Chiarot, Petan, Thorbs, Burmi, Stu, Pavs, and Peluso. (traded two 3rds got 3 back). We get back Smaltz (1st round pick), Hall (1LW that is 24), St. Louis' 1st, Florida's 1st, Deadmonton's 2nd, Mike Matheson (1st round pick and first year LHD), a 3rd and that is about 8m in salary. Trade some picks and prospects for Hamonic. With the cash savings we are able to land a couple of UFAs like Okposo (6x6) to take Staf's place. Next year... Hall Scheif Ehlers 12.6 Connor Little Wheeler 11.3 Armia Perreault Okposo 11 Lemieux Lowry Schmaltz 4 Trouba Buff 13 Enstrom Hamonic 9.65 Matheson Pokka 2 Helle Hutch 2 Carry Morrissey, Copp and Postma in the press box. 3 Scheif and Trouba signed long-term to 5.6m per year deals. A playoff caliber team with 3 rookies on the team and a payroll of around 69m with a lot of picks and prospects still in the cupboard. One catch - every single one of those trades gets turned down. Noeller and bearpants 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Burmistrov, Peluso, & Pavelec for a 1st is my favourite. bigg jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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