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"Wood Mackenzie forecast demand for oil would start to fall from 2023 under this scenario and this decline would quickly accelerate thereafter, with year-on-year falls of around 2 million barrels a day. 

The report said oil prices could go into “terminal decline,” with international benchmark Brent crude falling to between $37 and $42 a barrel by 2030. "

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/oil-could-plummet-to-10-by-2050-if-paris-climate-goals-are-achieved.html

 

scenario referred to is meeting paris goals.

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  1. Oregon drought  

https://thecounter.org/oregon-farms-water-klamath-river-drought-salmon/

  • "On April 14, the Bureau of Reclamation (USBR), a federal agency that oversees the Klamath irrigation project, announced that farmers would only get 33,000 acre-feet of water this year due to drought conditions—the lowest allotment in its history. The project spans from southern Oregon to northern California. For context, farmers saythey need 400,000 acre-feet in drought years. That didn’t stop the Klamath Drainage District (KDD) in southern Oregon—a public entity contracted to deliver water in the region—from turning on the spigot for its constituents two days later.

Growing resentment from farmers has caused some to worry about potential violence this year. Last Thursday, the “People’s Rights” group announced a call to farmers and ranchers in the basin to “STAND UP AND PROTECT YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOUR WATER!” People’s Rights is the far-right militia group founded by Ammon Bundy, known for leading a takeover of a federal wildlife refuge in 2016. 

 

There’s got to be some retreat in the Klamath Basin,” said Dan Tarlock, a professor emeritus of environmental law at the Illinois Institute of Technology, who has written extensively about water conflicts in the basin. “I think it’s pretty clear there’s not enough water to support the existing level of agriculture.”

 

there is going to be water shortage violence.

and americans will want canada to give them water.

 

 

 

 

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  1. Oregon drought  

https://thecounter.org/oregon-farms-water-klamath-river-drought-salmon/

  • "On April 14, the Bureau of Reclamation (USBR), a federal agency that oversees the Klamath irrigation project, announced that farmers would only get 33,000 acre-feet of water this year due to drought conditions—the lowest allotment in its history. The project spans from southern Oregon to northern California. For context, farmers saythey need 400,000 acre-feet in drought years. That didn’t stop the Klamath Drainage District (KDD) in southern Oregon—a public entity contracted to deliver water in the region—from turning on the spigot for its constituents two days later.

Growing resentment from farmers has caused some to worry about potential violence this year. Last Thursday, the “People’s Rights” group announced a call to farmers and ranchers in the basin to “STAND UP AND PROTECT YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOUR WATER!” People’s Rights is the far-right militia group founded by Ammon Bundy, known for leading a takeover of a federal wildlife refuge in 2016. 

 

There’s got to be some retreat in the Klamath Basin,” said Dan Tarlock, a professor emeritus of environmental law at the Illinois Institute of Technology, who has written extensively about water conflicts in the basin. “I think it’s pretty clear there’s not enough water to support the existing level of agriculture.”

 

there is going to be water shortage violence.

and Americans will want Canada to give them water.

 

 

 

 

The water shortage in the US is already there, partially due to climate change and also due to wasteful water usage practices in the American southwest- and that includes California. Some 30 years ago, the Americans held a conference called "Water For Peace" and the invitees were the US, Canada and Mexico.  Not hard to figure out the dynamics there.

There was a plan tabled wherein the Americans would foot the bill for a massive dam across the northern end of James Bay. That would raise the water level several meters and re-direct all the waters flowing into James Bay into the Great Lakes, raising their levels in turn and ultimately directing water into the Mississippi and thence into the American southwest. A grandiose plan but a frightening one.

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The water shortage in the US is already there, partially due to climate change and also due to wasteful water usage practices in the American southwest- and that includes California. Some 30 years ago, the Americans held a conference called "Water For Peace" and the invitees were the US, Canada and Mexico.  Not hard to figure out the dynamics there.

There was a plan tabled wherein the Americans would foot the bill for a massive dam across the northern end of James Bay. That would raise the water level several meters and re-direct all the waters flowing into James Bay into the Great Lakes, raising their levels in turn and ultimately directing water into the Mississippi and thence into the American southwest. A grandiose plan but a frightening one.

Can you just imagine the mercury levels and the flooding...

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