Booch Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I okay with this. I like direction of where our defence is going and we can field a much better player at the position that Muamba would have taken with an American and pay half that amount. Sure he is good, but as a ratio buster there on defence..meh.... That money could be better spent in a position that would produce more substantial amounts of benefit....0-line...big play receiver and or as a big splash for the biggest free agent pool in the pond next year. I agree too...Harris won't be re-upping this season with B.C and I bet we can land him in free agency here for next season. Having him and Marshall together "all" the time would be crazy good. Both are excellent receivers and a defence would have a hard time keying on either one for the run, or the outlet/flats in passing. Either one could be in the back field at any given time and other in that Drury type role. A muamba won't put us over the edge as legit, would be nice but with a competent offence and another force on the D-line this defence can win games. We need a legit playmaker on offence or another bigtime o-line beast more than Muamba Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I've liked Hurl from day one and I wouldn't want him to be released in favour of Muamba but I guess it's just confusing for me when I look at Hamilton and Ottawa stockpiling 7-8 high end Canadian defensive linemen but for some reason we don't have room for 2 good Canadian linebackers. I think you're misusing the term high end if you think either of those teams have eight of them at one position group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dascow Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Unfortunate for us, but hardly surprising at the same time. We have bigger issues to take care of. I've heard this from a few different posters and I could not dissagree more. One of this team’s greatest needs is better National, (Non-import), talent.How many star national players do we have on this team after Westerman?This team is lacking elite national talent and yet they are willing to drop out of the running for Muamba? (Again, that's assuming that it is the Bombers choice to drop out.) It just doesn’t make sense to me. The Bombers need to try and find 7 elite nationals to start and then fill in the gaps with internationals everywhere else. That's because it's easier to find elite internationals in every other position. So it doesn't matter where those nationals play because the gaps can be filled with internationals everywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 If Walters can get either Heenan or Jones. I wouldnt mind this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I agree... I love to see Harris in more of a slotback/RB role... just list him as an "offensive weapon"... Also someone mentioned they think the Esks will also sign Kelvin Muamba... just curious, what position does he play and why was he never in the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I agree... I love to see Harris in more of a slotback/RB role... just list him as an "offensive weapon"... Also someone mentioned they think the Esks will also sign Kelvin Muamba... just curious, what position does he play and why was he never in the draft? That was me ... WR - he was draft eligible in 2015 but went undrafted. Just a hunch they'll give him a deal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I agree... I love to see Harris in more of a slotback/RB role... just list him as an "offensive weapon"... Also someone mentioned they think the Esks will also sign Kelvin Muamba... just curious, what position does he play and why was he never in the draft? I believe Kelvin attended the Edmonton Regionals but not invited to the main camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 If Walters can get either Heenan or Jones. I wouldnt mind this. Too bad our chances at getting either of those is guys is somewhere around 1%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dascow Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I think it's more a case of them viewing Henoc as a luxury at this point. Unbeknownst to a lot of us, Sam Hurl has actually become a pretty good MLB. He plays well within our system and probably doesn't get enough credit. For us to add Henoc was something we could do, but I'm sure we probably capped out our budget at some point. Again, I have to disagree with your statement that Hurl is playing well. (It seems like I am disagreeing a lot in this thread…lol) I understand that I am very much in the minority here, but based on what I have witnessed, Hurl is not playing well.Based on what I have witnessed, he just doesn’t have the talent. I have been keeping an eye on Hurl for the last few games, and for the game against Calgary when the defense was on the field I was focusing on Hurl.I wanted to see if maybe he had improved. What I saw in the Calgary game was not good.Hurl’s biggest problem is that the second he gets engaged with a lineman, (or a fullback), he is finished.He gets eaten up by blocks and ends up 5 or 10 yards down the field by the time he is free. If he makes a tackle, which is rare for him, it’s 5 or 10 yards down the field. When he is playing gap control, which actually wasn’t as often as I thought it would be, and the run is to his gap, he gets blocked and the defense gets gashed for a huge run. When he is free to slide down the line of scrimmage and follow the flow of the offense, he usually ends up over running the play. Again, I understand that I am in the minority here, but based on what I saw last game, Hurl has not really improved.He is still a liability. One area that he did a good job in was pass coverage.He gets good depth on his drops and that has allowed him to make some big hits in the middle of the field and to create some turnovers. So to be fair, he’s only a liability when it comes to run stopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 ...In reality who wants to come back to this mess...Certainly the schmoes look like a better option at this time and another top pick of ours walks away...And we wonder why we're a mess..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueBlue83 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I'd say Hurl has improved, but not to the point where he's going to be a dominant starter. He's had flashes, but that spot can certainly be improved upon! Was Wild not MLB last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Lot pointing to Henoc Muamba signing with #als but this has been a crazy trail. Until it's official - you never know. But looks like MTL — gary lawless (@garylawless) September 30, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 gary lawless @garylawless 4m4 minutes ago Lot pointing to Henoc Muamba signing with #als but this has been a crazy trail. Until it's official - you never know. But looks like MTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Signing Lawrence Taylor in his prime couldn't help the Als with the qb situation they have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Geez....Montreal really? If true then it was obviously all about the money for Henoc. If that's the case I am upset with Bomber management right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Geez....Montreal really? If true then it was obviously all about the money for Henoc. If that's the case I am upset with Bomber management right now. Henoc's family lives in Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 If he signs in Montreal, that could mean Bear Woods would be available this offseason. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Muamba would not have improved our playoff chances a great deal, so its a loss if he signs elsewhere, but not a disaster. As others have opined, our needs are the O-line and probably import receivers. Andrew Harris would be a real plus, and I don't think its unrealistic to see Winnipeg as a good option for him next year. That would be a welcome ratio-buster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 If he signs in Montreal, that could mean Bear Woods would be available this offseason. Or the other back up that got injured. Elsworth I think? I'd take him if Bear wasn't available. Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 #10 on MTL just sent out a tweet to Henoc telling him (henoc) to get his check book ready. (to buy his number) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I'm a huge fan of Henoc Muamba....as a player and who he was off the field in the community. But with that said, they're talking about a lot of money that could be spent better, I think. If they'd done it, I'd be cool with that, but as others have said, I'm not all that torn up about him signing elsewhere (bonus if it's an East team like the Als!) Nothing but respect for Henoc and wish him the best of luck. As others have said, Hurl has been getting better all the time, our LB corps is our best asset and we could use that money in other spots that are more important... Mr Dee, comedygeek, Bigblue204 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyOnTheSpot Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Personally I wish we'd signed Henoc and traded Hurl either now or in the off season. That said, we'll be ok without him. It's not like the bombers didn't try, according to Wiecek at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 #10 on MTL just sent out a tweet to Henoc telling him (henoc) to get his check book ready. (to buy his number) If he has to buy it, his cheque book would be more useful. Stupid Americans... Fatty Liver and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Geez....Montreal really? If true then it was obviously all about the money for Henoc. If that's the case I am upset with Bomber management right now. Money and girls. If I signed in Mtl. it would be all about the girls, got to have something to spend all that loot on. JohnnyOnTheSpot and ALuCsRED 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Sam Hurl has definitely come around and earned his starting MLB spot. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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