TrueBlue Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 I'm sure most of us could agree that Lirim has done pretty well in the punting department in relief if Renaud. Hard to fathom that Renaud would have done any better. I do however think that Renaud poses a different kind of threat when it comes to the opportunities that he takes (i.e.: fielding his own punts) Does Renaud crack the lineup again, or have we seen the last of him? I personally am not a fan of having just one kicker on the game day roster handling all kicking duties, but hard to argue with Haj's performance thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 I wouldn't be against seeing Renaud let go. Mr. Perfect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 I think they've been waiting to see if another team's punter goes down this season to trade (and also to backup for the Bombers in case of injury). If no biters, my bet is he is let go in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted September 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Do you see it mostly to free up the roster spot, or because Lirim has performed that much better? I'm not sure I see the difference. Can't do it right now, but I would be curious to see some punting stats on Lirim so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Haven't seen the official stats between the two, but just watching them punt, I do believe Lirim has the stronger leg and het gets much better hang time on his punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 It's nice to have that extra Canadian in the lineup to play SP teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 I figure this is Renaud's last season with the Bombers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Almost feels like they felt they got burned by letting Ford go and thought it would be best to keep Renaud around. I don't see the point unless its a ratio thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Always am leery to release such a veteran, but Renaud just never hit that next level of improvement and consistency that guarantees security. Although he throws a nice pass, no Renaud for us next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Lirim > Renaud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Haven't seen the official stats between the two, but just watching them punt, I do believe Lirim has the stronger leg and het gets much better hang time on his punts. If that was the case Liram would have won the punting duties out of TC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Haven't seen the official stats between the two, but just watching them punt, I do believe Lirim has the stronger leg and het gets much better hang time on his punts. If that was the case Liram would have won the punting duties out of TC Not necessarily. Lirim was a rookie and sometimes if you give kickers too much to do both areas suffer. At the TC practise I was at, I thought Lirim out kicked Renaud. I think they wanted to ease Lirim in, letting him get comfortable and good at kicking while keeping some vet experience in the kicking game. When Renaud got hurt, Lirim was given the opportunity to take over both jobs. If Renaud was the better punter, he would be back by now. Bigblue204, voodoochylde and sweep the leg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 If Renaud is two inches taller and has a better vertical he might have a better chance fielding those deep snaps high into centre field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 I've found it odd how polarizing Renaud has been among fans. He's a reasonably solid but unspectacular punter. We've had far far worse - I know, high praise. Lirim has been pretty good at the job. I'm not sure he's been better all the time, but he's been better at minimum more than half the time, and he wins the leg strength battle handily. Renaud is capable of better touch but can't do it consistently. Right now I wouldn't use a spot on the 44 for him. It's pretty unlikely he'll be back next year, but for now depth at every position is a good idea as the playoffs approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Haven't seen the official stats between the two, but just watching them punt, I do believe Lirim has the stronger leg and het gets much better hang time on his punts. If that was the case Liram would have won the punting duties out of TC Not necessarily. Lirim was a rookie and sometimes if you give kickers too much to do both areas suffer. At the TC practise I was at, I thought Lirim out kicked Renaud. I think they wanted to ease Lirim in, letting him get comfortable and good at kicking while keeping some vet experience in the kicking game. When Renaud got hurt, Lirim was given the opportunity to take over both jobs. If Renaud was the better punter, he would be back by now. This is exactly what OShea said early on in the season when asked about the possibility of Lirim punting. He'd rather let him become proficient at kicking than overwhelm him and have him be average at everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Before people kick Renaud to the curb it might be wise to know who the next guy up is if Lirim were to get hurt. We have already demonstrated how lack of quality depth on the O line has been a serious issue, let's not do the same in the ST area, that is a huge factor in field position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Before people kick Renaud to the curb it might be wise to know who the next guy up is if Lirim were to get hurt. We have already demonstrated how lack of quality depth on the O line has been a serious issue, let's not do the same in the ST area, that is a huge factor in field position. When has this team or any other team in the league had a backup kicker ready to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted September 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Renaud: 3 games, 19 punts, 812 yards, 42.7 avg Lirim: 9 games, 65 punts, 2877 yards, 44.2 avg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Before people kick Renaud to the curb it might be wise to know who the next guy up is if Lirim were to get hurt. We have already demonstrated how lack of quality depth on the O line has been a serious issue, let's not do the same in the ST area, that is a huge factor in field position. Next guy up would have to be a new American find. Renaud can't placekick to save his life so he's no help anywhere but punting. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Before people kick Renaud to the curb it might be wise to know who the next guy up is if Lirim were to get hurt. We have already demonstrated how lack of quality depth on the O line has been a serious issue, let's not do the same in the ST area, that is a huge factor in field position. When has this team or any other team in the league had a backup kicker ready to go? Saskatchewan has Bartel on their 1 game and Palardy on their PR. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Hamilton has Brett Lauther on their PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Montreal has Nick Boyd on their PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Edmonton had ONeill behind Shaw, still have Congi on their 1 game IR. BC and Calgary both have split duty kickers on their rosters. McCallum/Schmitt and Parades/Maver, respectively. There are only two teams in the CFL who have one guy on their roster doing both duties without any backup - Toronto and Ottawa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 If Lirim gets injured in a game Kyle Jones is the backup kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 If Lirim gets injured in a game Kyle Jones is the backup kicker. for place kicking and punting? ouch! That of course is providing they dump Renaud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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