DR. CFL Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Somebody in their Devine wisdom has chosen to play any and all of these players not those of us on this fan site who think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKAChip Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Somebody in their Devine wisdom has chosen to play any and all of these players not those of us on this fan site who think otherwise. If you think the best players are always the ones who play regardless of situation, you're dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 I didn't say that....I'm not the HC OC DC or GM they are the ones that continue to plat Grigsby over Cotton and Kuale over whom ever else you might like to play so they think they are better then the alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Hate this move a lot. Grigsby has improved but he's still far from what I look for at RB. Running from the backfield often puts his weak vision and poor decisions on display. Putting him in space does at least show his speed and cuts. Interested to see if Cotton gets a shot somewhere. Really think he would flourish with full time carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKAChip Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 I'm not saying I know everything or even as close to as much about football as anyone in our management or coaching ranks. I do, however, know that there's more to it than "X player" is better than "Y player". In Grigsby's case, I can at least see some logic in the fact that he's done some good things. In Kuale's case, I have no doubt it's loyalty or something of that ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 If in any profession you decide to choose loyalty over ability ultimately it will lead to your demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KptKrunch Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 There's something wrong with Cotton. I posted on the GDT in that one game (I think it was against Edmonton but not sure) when he first got in. He fumbled the first time he touched the ball on a punt (or maybe it was a kick off). When Willy was in trouble later on, he flipped the ball out to Cotton who was looking right at him - ball bounced off Cotton's chest, then he put his arms up. I said then on that thread the man must be stoned because he sure as heck is doing a great impersonation of Serena Williams in that doubles match in Wimbledon a few months back. He's been better since (you really couldn't be any worse) but no where near as good or consistent as Grigsby has been (and we all know Grigsby has had some 'inconsistent' games, that's my point). So let him move on. Lets bring in some NFL cuts to see who can push the Grigs. I think Grigs has been fine, he's more a victim of our weak oline and offensive scheme more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Who do people birth more about Kuale or Grigsby ? Put Gribsby behind a Sask's or Calgary's O line and see how bad he is? Kuale obviously, Grigsby is getting better at the areas people bitched at him about, Kuale hasn't gotten better at all, and maybe has even gotten worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 I just wish we'd given Cotton a proper chance to carry the mail to see what he can do. If he does get picked up and looks good, or even better than Grigsby there's going to be some explaining that the coaches have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Any other CFL team trying to get it done with one RB? Pretty sure the answer to that question is "no". For me it always comes back to Marcel and his play-calling and personnel decisions. I don't have faith that this is the OC that will be able to lead the Bombers to anything other than mediocrity. DR. CFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Grigsby has gotten better over time but a ways to go before being as good as Ford or others we've had. If Grigsby goes down- that shouldn't be a big deal. O'Shea says that the running game is not all that important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBieber Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 @PentonKirk: Paris Cotton's agent is contacting other CFL teams, looking for an active roster spot for his client. #Bombers I could see Ottawa having interest with Walker out for the season. Gable is hurt in Hamilton too. Not sure how long he is out. Chance he could play Sunday, so likely back next week for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 I just wish we'd given Cotton a proper chance to carry the mail to see what he can do. If he does get picked up and looks good, or even better than Grigsby there's going to be some explaining that the coaches have to do. The same can be said of any player that finds success after being cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Grigsby has gotten better over time but a ways to go before being as good as Ford or others we've had. Ford's best year with us was running for 594 and receiving 41 with a total of 3 TD's and 2 fumbles he lost. Grigsby so far has 623 yards running... 341 receiving with 9 total TD's and I believe 0 fumbles lost..... You may want to rethink your opinion on Ford. Bigblue204, basslicker and robynjt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basslicker Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Sometimes can;t stand Winnipeg fans. Nothing is good enough. We have the single best RB in the league this year in Grigsby, and people STILL aren't happy with him. Our oline makes him look bad, but the fact remains he leads the league in numerous stat columns. Our best RB since Charles. The cuts baby, the cuts he makes! Grigsby is the best RB in the league?? Are you serious? As of right now, yes. Stats are for losers I know, but with our oline, he is putting up good numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Grigsby has gotten better over time but a ways to go before being as good as Ford or others we've had. Ford's best year with us was running for 594 and receiving 41 with a total of 3 TD's and 2 fumbles he lost. Grigsby so far has 623 yards running... 341 receiving with 9 total TD's and I believe 0 fumbles lost..... You may want to rethink your opinion on Ford. Ford never played a full season as RB wth the Bombers, he only became a starter once Chad Simpson was injured in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Grigsby has gotten better over time but a ways to go before being as good as Ford or others we've had. If Grigsby goes down- that shouldn't be a big deal. O'Shea says that the running game is not all that important. As good as Ford? What sort of bizarro universe am I living in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Much ado over nothing lol. Except for Cotton its a big deal I am sure , it also probably means someone has passed him on the depth chart... Could just be due to injuries, he wasn't dressing the last few games anyway so why not put a couple other guys on the reserve list instead, guys that might help out a bit more.. Maybe both Booker Mosely and Pall get on the 46 man this week, one will probably sit though. I think this is the most logical conclusion, juggling the numbers to get more help for the D-line on game day. If the Bombers really really cared about not losing him they would have put him on the 1 game IR. But they didn't release him outright. His remaining time with this club may be pretty short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Grigsby has gotten better over time but a ways to go before being as good as Ford or others we've had. Ford's best year with us was running for 594 and receiving 41 with a total of 3 TD's and 2 fumbles he lost. Grigsby so far has 623 yards running... 341 receiving with 9 total TD's and I believe 0 fumbles lost..... You may want to rethink your opinion on Ford. Ford never played a full season as RB wth the Bombers, he only became a starter once Chad Simpson was injured in 2013. Ford played 12 games last season with the Bombers - 9 as the starter and Grigsby's played 11 games so a straight up comparison now might work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 I find it rather amusing that so many people were saying last season and earlier this season that Ford wasn't any good and the only reason he was named an Eastern All-Star was because other RBs had been injured. And now it's Grigsby's that isn't good and is only leading the rushing stats because of injuries. basslicker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Grigsby has gotten better over time but a ways to go before being as good as Ford or others we've had. Ford's best year with us was running for 594 and receiving 41 with a total of 3 TD's and 2 fumbles he lost. Grigsby so far has 623 yards running... 341 receiving with 9 total TD's and I believe 0 fumbles lost..... You may want to rethink your opinion on Ford. OK, Ford may not have been the best example. My point still stands that Grigsby has yet to make his bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 I think Grigsby's blocking has improved immensely... I often watch him in the backfield because he really pissed me off at the beginning. I can tell you that that little scit last game where the commentators were talking about his blocking was accurate IMO his receiving I'm fairly impressed with. He has legit hands at times, but it will take a while to erase some of his blunders from early in the year. His running, I think is getting much better as well... I see him pumping his legs through contact, bouncing off guys and I think his vision is getting better as well... Noticed that severely lacking earlier this year... I think he really just came in rusty from being in baseball for so long, now he's starting to get better. Brandon Blue&Gold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 I agree Grigsby's blocking is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 I find it rather amusing that so many people were saying last season and earlier this season that Ford wasn't any good and the only reason he won the rushing title was because other RBs had been injured. And now it's Grigsby's that isn't good and is only leading the rushing stats because of injuries. Huh? Cornish literally had 3x as many yards as Will Ford last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 I think Grigsby's blocking has improved immensely... I often watch him in the backfield because he really pissed me off at the beginning. I can tell you that that little scit last game where the commentators were talking about his blocking was accurate IMO his receiving I'm fairly impressed with. He has legit hands at times, but it will take a while to erase some of his blunders from early in the year. His running, I think is getting much better as well... I see him pumping his legs through contact, bouncing off guys and I think his vision is getting better as well... Noticed that severely lacking earlier this year... I think he really just came in rusty from being in baseball for so long, now he's starting to get better. Problem with Grigsby is that he runs with zero power (and I'm not talking about size, cause 170 lbs backs can run with power too), is extremely inconsistent, basically a big play back who gets less effective as he touches the ball more, 4 of the last 5 games he's had 10 carries or less. He hasn't come close to 20 total touches since the game in Hamilton. If we had a guy who could handle 20 carries a game and a roster spot for an extra RB, Grigsby would fit in well there, as a guy we are relying on he's a huge handicap on our offense. It's pretty clear that the offensive coaches are feeling the same way as they are moving more and more away from Grigsby being featured in the game plan. The lack of a consistent rushing attack is clearly the difference between the Bombers offense being 7th in the league or being in the top 3 offensive teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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