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GDT - Toronto Argonauts vs Winnipeg Blue Bombers

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  • You don't fail so spectacularly after looking so good multiple times if it's a player issue. That's 100% a coaching issue. Teams adjust and our coach can't figure out how to make adjustments.

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2 hours ago, blueandgoldguy said:

Minor point, but 55 yard field goals will likely be successfully completed less than 50% of the time.

Especially considering you have Grant back there that burned you. Im not saying always go for it and give up points but man third and a short 3.. just go for it. You know if Castillo misses it can mean 7 again.

8 hours ago, BomberBall. said:

Maybe it was discussed, but after TO got the FG, why wouldn’t we just take the ball on the 40? I know we have Vaval, but it just wasted time and field position.

Especially in to the wind.

I believe you have to take the kickoff if the field goal is after the 3 minute warning

7 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Why are people shitting on Brown when this is not the first time we've seen with offense go from looking good to inept within a game regardless of who the qb is?

Know what that tells me? It's coaching.

It looked like the Edmonton game when...(checks notes) Zach was playing. @17to85 is correct.

11 hours ago, Noeller said:

I don't want Condell back next year but honestly don't know who else is out there that'll be any better.....

Khari?

17 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Why are people shitting on Brown when this is not the first time we've seen with offense go from looking good to inept within a game regardless of who the qb is?

Know what that tells me? It's coaching.

Plus I don’t think Dru Brown has hit his ceiling. I think if we show some patience we will reep the benefits.

Brown was shredding the Argos, then they adjusted and Tommy Condell is there...

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o Line crapped the bed when it counted....Brown didn't seem to know that you get rid of the ball rather than taking the sacks BUT the O Line failed him miserably...Argos D were in our backfield with ease on more than one occasion ....This club has some glaring ineptitude ...offensively and defensively....Will anything be corrected this late in the season?? not likely and so it will take an offseason to correct ...The team, as it stands now, will likely not be in any playoff contention of any note in 26'

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15 minutes ago, Stickem said:

o Line crapped the bed when it counted....Brown didn't seem to know that you get rid of the ball rather than taking the sacks BUT the O Line failed him miserably...Argos D were in our backfield with ease on more than one occasion ....This club has some glaring ineptitude ...offensively and defensively....Will anything be corrected this late in the season?? not likely and so it will take an offseason to correct ...The team, as it stands now, will likely not be in any playoff contention of any note in 26'

He didn’t have a chance at times.

Finishes his drop back and there was a guy immediately in his face. Situation like that you’re as likely to throw an interception or fumble the ball away when trying to get rid of it.

This is all on Condell. You had Brady running well .. over 6 yards a tote .. run the ******* ball.

As an aside, are we 0-3 after the bye week this season?

I think so.

In my mind that’s truly damning because we should be rested and well prepared .. not pissing away games that were there for the taking.

28 minutes ago, Stickem said:

Brown didn't seem to know that you get rid of the ball rather than taking the sacks

Replace Brown with Collaros and you got the story of the year. We got the same problems with both qbs should tell you something about the offense they've built here

12 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

What a **** show this game turned out to be.

Teased at the start then a big kick to the junk and here we are.

42 minutes ago, Stickem said:

o Line crapped the bed when it counted....Brown didn't seem to know that you get rid of the ball rather than taking the sacks BUT the O Line failed him miserably...Argos D were in our backfield with ease on more than one occasion ....This club has some glaring ineptitude ...offensively and defensively....Will anything be corrected this late in the season?? not likely and so it will take an offseason to correct ...The team, as it stands now, will likely not be in any playoff contention of any note in 26'

Big Stan was on his ass more times than not. I hope he rides off into the sunset.

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

Khari?

Zach

1 hour ago, Stickem said:

The team, as it stands now, will likely not be in any playoff contention of any note in 26'

Impossible to predict...they've had some good games.

8 minutes ago, Pete Catan's Ghost said:

Zach

Zach ain't coaching... He's going to TV.

Khari has been out of the game for too long. IMO it's gotta be someone who's really "up and coming" as an Assistant OC with another team. An RB/OL/REC coach on the rise with some other CFL team...

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Why are people shitting on Brown when this is not the first time we've seen with offense go from looking good to inept within a game regardless of who the qb is?

Know what that tells me? It's coaching.

The coaching is terrible but Brown was equally bad. How can you defend those interceptions? Those were back breakers. That was panic and bad QB play. The lack of protection didn't help but he was clearly rattled by the situation. Maybe Collaros would have done the same thing, maybe not, but that just speaks to the overall state of the quarterbacking. If Brown is supposed to be the future and maybe present QB1 then the standard needs to be way better than Collaros.

2 minutes ago, Atomic said:

The coaching is terrible but Brown was equally bad. How can you defend those interceptions? Those were back breakers. That was panic and bad QB play. The lack of protection didn't help but he was clearly rattled by the situation. Maybe Collaros would have done the same thing, maybe not, but that just speaks to the overall state of the quarterbacking. If Brown is supposed to be the future and maybe present QB1 then the standard needs to be way better than Collaros.

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4 minutes ago, Atomic said:

The coaching is terrible but Brown was equally bad. How can you defend those interceptions? Those were back breakers. That was panic and bad QB play. The lack of protection didn't help but he was clearly rattled by the situation. Maybe Collaros would have done the same thing, maybe not, but that just speaks to the overall state of the quarterbacking. If Brown is supposed to be the future and maybe present QB1 then the standard needs to be way better than Collaros.

Hey how did Collaros get hurt again? Oh yeah chasing the guy who intercepted him on a brain dead throw....

Maybe when we pull back and realize the offense has the same problems no matter who is at QB we can address the real issue.

3 hours ago, Tracker said:

Khari?

I could see buck getting fired and coming back to be oc and ast hc lol. I could also see us giving the job back to hogan lol.

Just now, wbbfan said:

I could see buck getting fired and coming back to be oc and ast hc lol. I could also see us giving the job back to hogan lol.

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37 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Hogan as OC again?

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I have no interest in seeing him as OC again but at least has room to grow. Condell is what he is, at this point in his career.

This game was a combination of poor playcalling (15%), poor discipline (35%) and overall lack of talent (50%).

I am at a loss to rationalize how bad our OL is and how limited our QBs are in ability.

Guys played hard, not seeing any lack of effort but woof this team needs a rebuild.

Condell just isn't the answer at OC, but we also need some new players.

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4 hours ago, voodoochylde said:

He didn’t have a chance at times.

Finishes his drop back and there was a guy immediately in his face. Situation like that you’re as likely to throw an interception or fumble the ball away when trying to get rid of it.

This is all on Condell. You had Brady running well .. over 6 yards a tote .. run the ******* ball.

As an aside, are we 0-3 after the bye week this season?

I think so.

In my mind that’s truly damning because we should be rested and well prepared .. not pissing away games that were there for the taking.

Brown was changing playcalls based on how he was reading the defence. How many of those plays were supposed to go to BO.

Fact of the matter is that teams, all season long, have been stacking the box because they are not at all concerned with our passing game. That is partly on Condell but mostly on our pass pro and QB stable.

16 hours ago, blueandgoldguy said:

Do you honestly believe the rest of the game plays out the exact same way if Castillo makes those 2 field goals?

They would have had a 24 - 0 lead at one point.

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