johnzo Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 24 minutes ago, Noeller said: Hard no on Kelly ever. No matter what. He should be banned from th league. creampuff solidarity. ain't gonna root for that guy even if he is wearing the most perfect laundry on earth. Edited 12 hours ago by johnzo wbbfan 1
bustamente Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago Hard pass on Kelly, I believe in second changes but not for that turd wbbfan, Noeller and Bigblue204 3
Brandon Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 6 hours ago, Noeller said: When poor Matty Ice's arm got fully toasted (after he went to Ottawa!) that was a cooked arm. That poor guy couldn't make a 10 yard toss. That was so many shots to the shoulder and he just didn't have the juice. Dude his arm was cooked for the last 2 seasons he played for us. Instead of blaming LaPo rewatch his games... the guy could *only* make 5 - 10 yard passes. 2 hours ago, Noeller said: Hard no on Kelly ever. No matter what. He should be banned from th league. If only you knew what kind of things that many of our greatest Bombers used to do with women around town. Also kind of hypocritical when a guy like Lawler drives drunk and puts peoples lives at danger yet you gave him a 2nd chance and yet Kelly being a sex pest is somehow worse? I'd take Kelly next year over rolling out Zach and his 2 back breaking ints per game. rebusrankin 1
wbbfan Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 8 hours ago, Mark H. said: And then the Faj comes to Winnipeg. #funtimesonmbb probably. Give him a big front loaded bonus then he decides to retire rather than report and keep the bonus bustamente and Mark H. 2
bigg jay Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 8 hours ago, bustamente said: Hard pass on Kelly, I believe in second changes but not for that turd He's also well past his 2nd chance. wbbfan 1
GCn20 Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago (edited) Zach ain't what he used to be for sure, but his arm is not cooked. He needs help around him, play calling that makes sense, a coach that will reign him in, and a little more self awareness. He isn't MOP calibre anymore, but he is still capable of being a lot better than what he has shown this year. Gone are the days of Zach taking control of a game on a consistent basis, but he can certainly manage our games a lot better if we can create the right conditions. That being said, his salary needs to reflect that if we are going to bring him back. There is no reason in the world he can't re-invent himself like Harris and BLM have done if everyone comes to terms with the fact he has to do so, including himself. Edited 3 hours ago by GCn20
rebusrankin Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago Can Zach change his style? We have not seen evidence of this yet.. Will the coaching staff push him to change? See above.
bustamente Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, wbbfan said: probably. Give him a big front loaded bonus then he decides to retire rather than report and keep the bonus Hey I've seen that movie don't think I'll like the sequel wbbfan 1
GCn20 Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 19 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: Can Zach change his style? We have not seen evidence of this yet.. Will the coaching staff push him to change? See above. Yep...hence what we have seen this year. Not saying it's going to happen, just saying it's what needs to happen. I think we may have been a lot better off hiring Lapo over Hogan. Lapo love him or hate him, would not have continually tried to put a square peg in a round hole. Edited 2 hours ago by GCn20 rebusrankin 1
bigg jay Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, rebusrankin said: Can Zach change his style? We have not seen evidence of this yet.. Will the coaching staff push him to change? See above. Nope. Our coaching staff themselves are resistant to change so I can't see them telling ZC to change things up. rebusrankin and Bigblue204 1 1
Bigblue204 Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 8 hours ago, Brandon said: Dude his arm was cooked for the last 2 seasons he played for us. Instead of blaming LaPo rewatch his games... the guy could *only* make 5 - 10 yard passes. If only you knew what kind of things that many of our greatest Bombers used to do with women around town. Also kind of hypocritical when a guy like Lawler drives drunk and puts peoples lives at danger yet you gave him a 2nd chance and yet Kelly being a sex pest is somehow worse? I'd take Kelly next year over rolling out Zach and his 2 back breaking ints per game. "Well other people did bad things too!" lol look at you defending a well known multiple time POS. lol. **** Kelly and any team that employs him. He's well past his 2nd chance. 8 minutes ago, bigg jay said: Nope. Our coaching staff themselves are resistant to change so I can't see them telling ZC to change things up. I fully believe MOS will ride the vets that want to stay right to the unemployment line. It's a shame but that seems to be the plan. bigg jay 1
Tracker Posted 44 minutes ago Report Posted 44 minutes ago 11 hours ago, Noeller said: Hard no on Kelly ever. No matter what. He should be banned from th league. I'm a big believer in second chances, but Kelly's personality and track record indicates that this is his core personality and unlikely to change. He might suppress it for a while under duress, but leopards and spots... Bigblue204 1
17to85 Posted 40 minutes ago Report Posted 40 minutes ago 1 hour ago, GCn20 said: Lapo love him or hate him, would not have continually tried to put a square peg in a round hole. You sure about that? Lapo has his system and it's been the same for ever. Not all that different from what Hogan is trying to do, just lapo is better at it. For my money collaros would struggle in a lapo system because it relies on a lot of short passing which is absolutely the weakest part of collaros game.
Tracker Posted 24 minutes ago Report Posted 24 minutes ago 14 minutes ago, 17to85 said: You sure about that? Lapo has his system and it's been the same for ever. Not all that different from what Hogan is trying to do, just lapo is better at it. For my money collaros would struggle in a lapo system because it relies on a lot of short passing which is absolutely the weakest part of collaros game. Collaros seems to have reached the point where there is no strong part of his game any more. He used to be able to roll out and throw 40 yard darts with amazing accuracy, but no more.
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