Winnipeg Blue Bombers @ Saskatchewan Roughriders GDT

[SpeedFlex27]

6 hours ago, Booch said:

I agree on his roster use and how he selects players

That being said he appears to be a bit clueless and slow at times...not very astute with game management

Plus his teams still play undisciplined 

 

I think it's the experienc factor & he'll get better.

[3rdand1.5]

Well, it was a hot, but fun atmosphere at the game ...we made it exciting at the end..,..but the lack of a run game....before the half on 2nd down.....all we should have done is run Brady.....that Playcall IMO was the game.....

[17to85]

12 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Thought DL was decent.  But as a defense don't have that burst to overcome breakdowns in the back end.  Got the one turnover, but those turnovers aren't happening enough unless we get to play a 4th string QB.

Thought after schmekel got hurt the tackles got gassed badly, especially Thomas and the effectiveness nose dived, particularly against the run. 

Honestly this game was only close because of a pants on head ******** penalty by a rider db... 3rd and 14 and you take a PI penalty near your endzone? That's embarrassing. 

It was a classic death by 1000 stupid things. Backbreakingly ill timed penalties... giving a first down being offside on a punt, giving up 2 first down plays on penalties... those IMO lost them the game more than anything.

The OL was ******* gross. Was a play early on neufeld looks to pass off a guy to Kolankowski and neither guy blocks anyone and collaros has a guy right right at him unimpeded.... what the **** do these guys donin practise?

[Super Duper Negatron]

5 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Thought after schmekel got hurt the tackles got gassed badly, especially Thomas and the effectiveness nose dived, particularly against the run. 

Honestly this game was only close because of a pants on head ******** penalty by a rider db... 3rd and 14 and you take a PI penalty near your endzone? That's embarrassing. 

It was a classic death by 1000 stupid things. Backbreakingly ill timed penalties... giving a first down being offside on a punt, giving up 2 first down plays on penalties... those IMO lost them the game more than anything.

The OL was ******* gross. Was a play early on neufeld looks to pass off a guy to Kolankowski and neither guy blocks anyone and collaros has a guy right right at him unimpeded.... what the **** do these guys donin practise?

Kolo after snapping the ball:

[Bigblue204]

11 hours ago, 3rdand1.5 said:

Well, it was a hot, but fun atmosphere at the game ...we made it exciting at the end..,..but the lack of a run game....before the half on 2nd down.....all we should have done is run Brady.....that Playcall IMO was the game.....

After that 2nd and inches call where Zack took a sack. I said those are the plays that end up being keys to victory/defeat. Hogan got too fancy and decided he knew better than 99% of coaches. Just another idiotic call that im sure he'll blame on the players.

[Mark H.]

The other second and short pass went for a TD.

[wbbfan]

15 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Kolo after snapping the ball:

and yet hasn’t even been reliable at snapping this year 

[17to85]

17 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

After that 2nd and inches call where Zack took a sack. I said those are the plays that end up being keys to victory/defeat. Hogan got too fancy and decided he knew better than 99% of coaches. Just another idiotic call that im sure he'll blame on the players.

Zach has lost yards on 2nd and short multiple times. Just more of the stupid self inflicted **** they do to themselves.

 

They're still doing things on hard mode when they don't have the horses to overcome it anymore.

[3rdand1.5]

19 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

The other second and short pass went for a TD.

Yes, but situational awareness.....I like an attempt at times, but almost the end of the half really tight game, in field goal range, not the time...IMO....you run, you keep the clock going. Yes I understand they are good against the run, even if you don't get it you are set up for a FG....IMO I am seeing a pattern of Hogan going against traditional thinking and trying only what I can describe as trying to be too smart.....There are times, but there is also times to just stick with tried and true traditional thinking....at least this is my ,2 cents

[17to85]

I love taking shots on 2nd and short... but you can not lose yards. Nothing there then the ball goes into the 5th row.

[JohnnyAbonny]

In a vacuum I don’t mind them taking a shot on 2nd and short.

I was more irritated at the context of them pissing around with Strev at the 5 yard line, then proceeding to not use the SY set when it would have been prudent. 

 

[rebusrankin]

So the Oline, do we see something like Vanterpool for Wallace on Saturday? If Kramdi is back, he'd help balance the ratio and Vanterpool could replace Woodby. I mean, we need a Kolo upgrade but I'm not holding my breath. Heck, Logan hasn't offered much but no idea who you replace him with.

[17to85]

Logan has been a waste of space. Woodbey was good, I'd keep him if we can. Get one of the Americans on at DT too. Don't care if it's adams or woods.

As for OL preference is kolankowski sits but that won't happen so yeah get an American in the third spot.

[Slimy Sculpin]

35 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

So the Oline, do we see something like Vanterpool for Wallace on Saturday? If Kramdi is back, he'd help balance the ratio and Vanterpool could replace Woodby. I mean, we need a Kolo upgrade but I'm not holding my breath. Heck, Logan hasn't offered much but no idea who you replace him with.

Logan has been a disappointment. He doesn't look fast/quick to my eyes. Is he still not fully healed? Got to wonder about personnel decisions over the last few years.

[17to85]

There's obviously an injury issue with Logan still so why dress him? We could use that spot on a more impactful player. Kick off returns and 2 or 3 offensive series isn't good use of roster.

[Chevy]

Typical bombers loss. O'Shea needs to go. Awful decisions on his part. Can't believe he has lost his balls to take any chances at all. He lost them that game and a few more with stupid decisions.

[sweep the leg]

3 hours ago, 17to85 said:

 

Honestly this game was only close because of a pants on head ******** penalty by a rider db... 3rd and 14 and you take a PI penalty near your endzone? That's embarrassing. 

 

It was a one score game when that happened. It was already close.

[17to85]

1 minute ago, sweep the leg said:

It was a one score game when that happened. It was already close.

However it came down to 3rd and a mile to stay on the field... not that close given the context or the game.

[Doublezero]

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

They're still doing things on hard mode when they don't have the horses to overcome it anymore.

This is not a top-tier CFL team. In a way, it's too bad they aren't a total basket case club, in which case O'Shea might be forced to let us see what Terry Wilson has, along with some of the other young players who remain hidden in the wings but who don't get to play.

[Mark H.]

8 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

However it came down to 3rd and a mile to stay on the field... not that close given the context or the game.

All of that is part of football. This was a winnable game in spite of all the mistakes. And there was still a chance at the end, if the whistle gets blown when it should. ZC was under siege all night and was nothing short of heroic.

[17to85]

10 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

All of that is part of football. This was a winnable game in spite of all the mistakes. And there was still a chance at the end, if the whistle gets blown when it should. ZC was under siege all night and was nothing short of heroic.

Oh yeah totally winnable, which is what makes the stupid things they did so painful.

[voodoochylde]

16 hours ago, Old Bomber Fan said:

It almost looks like they are simply going through the motions. It feels like they have no confidence is the plays called. And they cannot tackle worth s…

It’s because they chose to gut the heart of the team all in one year.  Moving on from Biggie, BA, Woli .. these are guys who yes, we should have been looking to move on from but also were leaders, been through the ups and downs of season and provide steadiness.

Before was the topic de jour, I was talking about how we needed to find the next Bighill.  Guys that oozed potential but needed a year or two of seasoning behind a guy who holds others (including himself) accountable.

BA is another one of those guys.  He’d lost some of his range but what you want out there is a guy who is confident, get others in position and communicates well with the secondary. Kelly. Parker. Allen. They aren’t that guy.  Allen has been better than ANY of the other guys we’ve had back there all season but he’s still not good (yet?).  If I wanted to watch a guy flap his arms in the air as a ball sailed over his head I’d rather have had BA back there this year with the leadership upside.

[Mike]

In fairness to Allen, I think we need to decide what we want as a fan base. I’ve been asking to let the talented young guys play. I’m not going to get upset at a guy like Allen for a wildly obvious beat as a young player, it comes with the territory. I’ll take that over the (as an example) approximately 376 times Bighill didn’t blow a tackle because he was three steps away from being able to make one. 
 

The one thing I would like to see from Cam Allen is for him to realize the difference between when he needs to hit and when he needs to tackle. I’ve been overall decently happy with him other than that, even with the blown coverage yesterday. 

[Arnold_Palmer]

Just now, Mike said:

In fairness to Allen, I think we need to decide what we want as a fan base. I’ve been asking to let the talented young guys play. I’m not going to get upset at a guy like Allen for a wildly obvious beat as a young player, it comes with the territory. I’ll take that over the (as an example) approximately 376 times Bighill didn’t blow a tackle because he was three steps away from being able to make one. 
 

The one thing I would like to see from Cam Allen is for him to realize the difference between when he needs to hit and when he needs to tackle. I’ve been overall decently happy with him other than that, even with the blown coverage yesterday. 

I think Cam Allen is going to be a great player. Let’s remember he’s in game 3 or 4 with the Bombers. When Alexander got moved to safety in 2019 he had nearly 4 years of CFL experience under his belt. I like Cams physicality, and I think for the most part he has the instincts and speed to cover a lot of ground. Totally ok letting guys like him, Vaval and Woodbrey continuing to figure it out. I think all three have a future in this league. 

[Tracker]

43 minutes ago, Doublezero said:

This is not a top-tier CFL team. In a way, it's too bad they aren't a total basket case club, in which case O'Shea might be forced to let us see what Terry Wilson has, along with some of the other young players who remain hidden in the wings but who don't get to play.

Ummm....have you been watching O'Shea's roster decisions?