Stamps at Bombers early chat

[WinnipegGordo]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[wbbfan]

Boy I don’t want to see Kase in the starting core… 

 glad vanterpool is getting more T reps. Hopefully Stan is ok and tbh can step back up. 
Good to see Logan finally starting to get healthy too. 

[Arnold_Palmer]

Time to release Dillion Mitchell if you have no intentions of playing him. Absolutely ridiculous at this point. 

[rebusrankin]

Kody Case? WTF? Mitchell can't beat out that non entity?

[Booch]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

Boy I don’t want to see Kase in the starting core… 

 glad vanterpool is getting more T reps. Hopefully Stan is ok and tbh can step back up. 
Good to see Logan finally starting to get healthy too. 

Typical with us..Case...like really? Guy is as average as average is...and couldnt crack lineup last yr...and if he couldn't beat out Sterns this yr then insirting him for Schoen makes us the worst group in league in yrs...

 

43 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Kody Case? WTF? Mitchell can't beat out that non entity?

If Stan needs a rest then we gain a DA spot...tho we roster 4 ...3 of of whom only see work on teams I can just imagine what Osh rosters

Nice to see Kelly back tho...and logan...

43 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Kody Case? WTF? Mitchell can't beat out that non entity?

Likely another case of "coaches preference " and no pun intended...

[rebusrankin]

I'm fine with Vanterpool for Stan. Kelly back would be fantastic. Logan too.

If Mitchell can't beat out Case then he needs to hit the bricks.

Thing is Case had 1 catch for 5 yards in 3 games last year. Not trying to be an ahole but pretty sure any receiver you put in could do that. Take out Schoen and the D has to what cover 3 guys (Demski, Wheatfall and Clercius)

[Fatty Liver]

1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

Kody Case? WTF? Mitchell can't beat out that non entity?

I've heard Mitchell doesn't play slot, dumb as a fence post if he doesn't seize whatever opportunity is given to him at this time, his job is on the line.

[wbbfan]

43 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

I've heard Mitchell doesn't play slot, dumb as a fence post if he doesn't seize whatever opportunity is given to him at this time, his job is on the line.

Dillion Mitchell does and has played slot. below the very first highlight has him in the slot. You can find lots of similar in his high lights up here.
 Also WRs in the cfl motion and move depending on formation, package, and passing concepts. No one is solely a field or wr or boundary slot. 
 

This is mos roster management. If they actually played case in a game over any imp wr it would be completely absurd. 
 

 

[Booch]

3 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Dillion Mitchell does and has played slot. below the very first highlight has him in the slot. You can find lots of similar in his high lights up here.
 Also WRs in the cfl motion and move depending on formation, package, and passing concepts. No one is solely a field or wr or boundary slot. 
 

This is mos roster management. If they actually played case in a game over any imp wr it would be completely absurd. 
 

 

Yeah not sure why people saying he not or can't play slot...hes done it...plus he is a pro so should be able to anyway...we also use our guys in all the spots as well...that's just a nonesense excuse

[JuranBoldenRules]

Maybe they are both coming on and Vaval is coming off.

[Booch]

3 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Maybe they are both coming on and Vaval is coming off.

Well Case is a pointless returner too...so hopefully not even tho Vaval has kinda petered out a bit...but he still has that break one threat...case...nope

[rebusrankin]

Case had 1 catch for 5 yards in three games last year. Believe he didn't play this past pre season. Had 1 catch for 4 yards last pre season. Seriously why is he still around?

Logan as another offensive weapon and the returner would be interesting.

Hopefully another defender in to help the Dline too.

[wbbfan]

25 minutes ago, Booch said:

Well Case is a pointless returner too...so hopefully not even tho Vaval has kinda petered out a bit...but he still has that break one threat...case...nope

Yeah that’d be a pretty big down grade. Vaval needs to grow make a few better decisions and be more secure. But that’s typical of rookie krs. Hes worth developing and teaching. especially since he looks like a legit db. 
 

Vaval and schoen for Logan and Mitchell would be well worth while though. 

[Booch]

12 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Yeah that’d be a pretty big down grade. Vaval needs to grow make a few better decisions and be more secure. But that’s typical of rookie krs. Hes worth developing and teaching. especially since he looks like a legit db. 
 

Vaval and schoen for Logan and Mitchell would be well worth while though. 

Yeah that would be the best use of assets..having both Logan and Mitchell back for KR too

Be nice to swap Bailey for Weitz too...we know what Weitz offers...not much...havnt even noticed him on teams, so time to see what Bailey has to offer. Why we don't see what guys have in game reps is baffling

If we go 3 nationals too be nice to see one of Person or J.Jones as well

[bigg jay]

40 minutes ago, Booch said:

Yeah that would be the best use of assets..having both Logan and Mitchell back for KR too

Be nice to swap Bailey for Weitz too...we know what Weitz offers...not much...havnt even noticed him on teams, so time to see what Bailey has to offer. Why we don't see what guys have in game reps is baffling

If we go 3 nationals too be nice to see one of Person or J.Jones as well

Weitz was moved to the PR a couple weeks ago.

[ShyGuy]

2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Case had 1 catch for 5 yards in three games last year. Believe he didn't play this past pre season. Had 1 catch for 4 yards last pre season. Seriously why is he still around?

He approaches the game "the right way"tm

Edited 17 hours ago by ShyGuy

[Booch]

2 hours ago, bigg jay said:

Weitz was moved to the PR a couple weeks ago.

He's been on roster last 2 actually

[Brandon]

Holy **** Case is going to start,  this is such exciting news I can't wait to see what he can do for us!   He showed so much potential during pre season and came into the league with such prestige and high praises.   Sooooo jazzed about this!!!

[Noeller]

What if Case got better from last year to this?

Edited 5 hours ago by Noeller

[BBlink]

I'm okay with Case getting his year 2 opportunity. I might be the only one who doesn't think he is horse poop.

[SpeedFlex27]

11 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Boy I don’t want to see Kase in the starting core… 

 glad vanterpool is getting more T reps. Hopefully Stan is ok and tbh can step back up. 
Good to see Logan finally starting to get healthy too. 

We decided to keep Shoen with an injured knee who missed almost the entire season last year & let Lawler get away?? I remember being against that decision & stating that here when Lawler signed with Hamilton wondering how many games we could squeeze outta the guy before he was hurt again. Jeezus, What kind of frigging decision was that from Walters & Osh??? 

[Brandon]

44 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

We decided to keep Shoen with an injured knee who missed almost the entire season last year & let Lawler get away?? I remember being against that decision & stating that here when Lawler signed with Hamilton wondering how many games we could squeeze outta the guy before he was hurt again. Jeezus, What kind of frigging decision was that from Walters & Osh??? 

Lawler may still have character issues and doesn't fit in to the O'Shea way?  

[DTonOB]

Whenever I get asked about why Mitchell isn't playing I say it's because he's an X wide receiver. And to get him in would require he or Wheatfall changes position. Based on having Case in for Schoen on Sunday I have to believe the Bombers have reservations too. The first day of camp this year they had Mitchell at slot next to Wheatfall. The next day Mitchell was at X with the 2s. And since the end of camp that's where he's stayed.

Mitchell has played some slot in his career but the Elks clearly felt he was a WR. For his career I've got him with 151 targets at WR and 55 in the slot--73% WR is pretty high. When they signed Geno Lewis in 2023 they tried Mitchell in the slot but eventually bumped him out to Z.

Watching his '24 and '23 Sunday night Mitchell had some real struggles with the waggle...more hesitant than most guys. How much was him and how much was the bad QB situations in Edmonton...who knows.

[SpeedFlex27]

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

Lawler may still have character issues and doesn't fit in to the O'Shea way?  

Between 2019 & 2024 he was here for 4 seasons, so I doubt that. It was a financial decision. The Bombers didn't want to pay. Schoen coming off an injury season was the cheaper option. 

1 hour ago, DTonOB said:

Whenever I get asked about why Mitchell isn't playing I say it's because he's an X wide receiver. And to get him in would require he or Wheatfall changes position. Based on having Case in for Schoen on Sunday I have to believe the Bombers have reservations too. The first day of camp this year they had Mitchell at slot next to Wheatfall. The next day Mitchell was at X with the 2s. And since the end of camp that's where he's stayed.

Mitchell has played some slot in his career but the Elks clearly felt he was a WR. For his career I've got him with 151 targets at WR and 55 in the slot--73% WR is pretty high. When they signed Geno Lewis in 2023 they tried Mitchell in the slot but eventually bumped him out to Z.

Watching his '24 and '23 Sunday night Mitchell had some real struggles with the waggle...more hesitant than most guys. How much was him and how much was the bad QB situations in Edmonton...who knows.

Seems like a waste of money signing him.

[wbbfan]

7 hours ago, Brandon said:

Lawler may still have character issues and doesn't fit in to the O'Shea way?  

I think he fits in the locker room, but he does for sure have real character flaws. 
 

8 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

We decided to keep Shoen with an injured knee who missed almost the entire season last year & let Lawler get away?? I remember being against that decision & stating that here when Lawler signed with Hamilton wondering how many games we could squeeze outta the guy before he was hurt again. Jeezus, What kind of frigging decision was that from Walters & Osh??? 

Stupid amounts of money. But damned if he isn’t earning it. 
 

7 hours ago, DTonOB said:

Whenever I get asked about why Mitchell isn't playing I say it's because he's an X wide receiver. And to get him in would require he or Wheatfall changes position. Based on having Case in for Schoen on Sunday I have to believe the Bombers have reservations too. The first day of camp this year they had Mitchell at slot next to Wheatfall. The next day Mitchell was at X with the 2s. And since the end of camp that's where he's stayed.

Mitchell has played some slot in his career but the Elks clearly felt he was a WR. For his career I've got him with 151 targets at WR and 55 in the slot--73% WR is pretty high. When they signed Geno Lewis in 2023 they tried Mitchell in the slot but eventually bumped him out to Z.

Watching his '24 and '23 Sunday night Mitchell had some real struggles with the waggle...more hesitant than most guys. How much was him and how much was the bad QB situations in Edmonton...who knows.

first off, thanks for the snap break down, some great info there.

now rant on lol,

If you sign a guy like that you should have a good understanding and expectation of if you can coach him up and how much you can do. It’d be really egregious to bring him in at that bonus, thinking he can only play one wr spot. Where you have a younger cheaper guy grooming with upside.  
 

Especially after last year going into it with on paper an elite wr core, probably the most expensive hands down. Then seeing every one struggle and miss games, massive under performances, that should’ve made the important clear. If not the years of chasing top flight WRs each off season to never land one. 

You can use motion to ease a guy into the waggle, which Edmonton didn’t do. And you can split reps, plus you don’t need to be schoen min maxing the waggle every snap. 

Dillion Mitchell is a player in this league, Kase has been below replacement level as a wr and kr. 
 

If Mitchell is that hard stuck, we gotta dump him and bring in some one with versatility to play more spots. 
 

Feels Lousy as a bomber fan that what ever our front office and coaching staff does is automatically good enough. And not just to us but to them. 
 30k plus fans a game deserve better.