2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread

[Tracker]

19 minutes ago, blue85gold said:

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/04/30/elgersma-this-is-something-ive-dreamed-of-for-a-long-time-getting-a-chance-to-be-a-professional-quarterback/

Tait with some more info on Elgersma

Seems to have his head screwed on properly and am looking forward to seeing him in the Bomber training camp.

[ddanger]

20 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said:

AN OL for the last pick - Iwinosa Uwubanmwen 

I think I used up all the keys on my keyboard  

If you can even come remotely close to a proper pronunciation of his names it's gonna be a gold star for you! 

[M.O.A.B.]

14 minutes ago, ddanger said:

If you can even come remotely close to a proper pronunciation of his names it's gonna be a gold star for you! 

 

I would guess it would sound like this:  I win nose ah    You who ban m' when?   

Edited Wednesday at 10:07 PM by M.O.A.B.

[ddanger]

8 hours ago, Colin Unger said:

I think Streveler might be in trouble.  At his size Elgersma can fill the role of short yardage QB for this season and that gives us a significant cap savings vs one of our american vets. So Streveler is going to have to demonstrate he's the best option at QB1 if Zach goes down. Personally, I think Patterson is a better passer than Streveler. And then there's the injury history of Streveler. If he get injured again then it's basically just Zach and the canadian kid and whatever is available on the free agent market at the time.  I imagine they might consider healthy scratching Elgersma this season unless needed or sending him back to college for more seasoning after getting a training camp under his belt. But, i just don't think they drafted him not to have him on the roster this season.  Thoughts?
 

I hope you're wrong about Streveler, but it does seem that one of the major camp battles is clearly going to be at the QB position. 

[M.O.A.B.]

8 hours ago, Colin Unger said:

I think Streveler might be in trouble.  At his size Elgersma can fill the role of short yardage QB for this season and that gives us a significant cap savings vs one of our american vets. So Streveler is going to have to demonstrate he's the best option at QB1 if Zach goes down. Personally, I think Patterson is a better passer than Streveler. And then there's the injury history of Streveler. If he get injured again then it's basically just Zach and the canadian kid and whatever is available on the free agent market at the time.  I imagine they might consider healthy scratching Elgersma this season unless needed or sending him back to college for more seasoning after getting a training camp under his belt. But, i just don't think they drafted him not to have him on the roster this season.  Thoughts?
 

I would think Elergesma would not be in the Bombers TC early, probably at late stages if he becomes available. Streveller and Wilson will be safe. I think it would be either Dolegala and Patterson will be taking the axe, if not both. 

[Jpan85]

4 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

I think this is a distortion of reality, the vast majority of US College players are receiving very little NIL money, the ones making big money from the program would likely be early draft picks that would never come to the CFL anyway. 

All the late drafted Qbs from big programs had multi million dollar NIL deals.

[JuranBoldenRules]

4 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

I think this is a distortion of reality, the vast majority of US College players are receiving very little NIL money, the ones making big money from the program would likely be early draft picks that would never come to the CFL anyway. 

Almost every FBS/FCS football player is taking offers every time the portal opens.  Every FBS QB is getting over six figures. 

This is a story about Mark Gronowski who is on Bombers neg list and has been South Dakota State starter for 4 years.  Could have went pro this year, stayed in NCAA and went to Iowa for a "seven-figure" guarantee.  This guy is not really a NFL prospect as a passer.  Like maybe get drafted in 5th-6th-7th round, maybe but not likely.

https://brobible.com/sports/article/mark-gronowski-iowa-nil-deal-seven-figure-college-football/

[M.O.A.B.]

We signed another QB 

Chase Artopoeus - 2024 - Football - University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Athletics

[bigg jay]

39 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said:

We signed another QB 

Chase Artopoeus - 2024 - Football - University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Athletics

He was on the list of neg list names that got revealed in December.

[Colin Unger]

2 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said:

I would think Elergesma would not be in the Bombers TC early, probably at late stages if he becomes available. Streveller and Wilson will be safe. I think it would be either Dolegala and Patterson will be taking the axe, if not both. 

The more qbs in camp the better. That way we have guys we can call upon later in the season if injuries strike.

[Noeller]

1 minute ago, Colin Unger said:

The more qbs in camp the better. That way we have guys we can call upon later in the season if injuries strike.

Do we also have 500 receivers or does each QB get 5 reps per day....?

[M.O.A.B.]

19 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

The more qbs in camp the better. That way we have guys we can call upon later in the season if injuries strike.

If you dont have binafude starter, yes. But on our situation 4 would be optimal 7 is a waste of time and spot.

I will keep 4 QBs. The top 3 and Elergesma. Dojegala or Paterdon. In that order.

[bigg jay]

25 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Do we also have 500 receivers or does each QB get 5 reps per day....?

5 reps would be 5 more than they'd ever see in an actual game (ZC excluded) so they might be happy with that!

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, M.O.A.B. said:

We signed another QB 

Chase Artopoeus - 2024 - Football - University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Athletics

Feel like this means a qb cut is happening. 

I like the arm talent. Very easy fluid smooth arm motion. Fast release that he can speed up/shorten if needed. Despite all that he has all the arm strength you could need. Not a laser cannon but really good. Great considering his release and motion. 
 

Sneaky quick and a really smart runner. Doesn’t take stupid hits, runs smart angles, keeps his eyes down field, and can break bigger runs.  

[Mike]

I think it’s pretty simple to decipher … you’ve wanted the guy for a while, bring him in and make him make the decision for you 

[wbbfan]

41 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

The more qbs in camp the better. That way we have guys we can call upon later in the season if injuries strike.

This brings us to 6 plus elgersma. That’s fine for rookie camp if you want to limit Zach/chris throws before full tc. But you gotta cut atleast one out of rookie camp, and then another if elgersma signs. 
 

In tc you just don’t have that many snaps first and second unit get lots of reps. You can rotate in 1 guy with each unit reasonably well. Balancing a full 3rd unit on O means a full one on D and leaves it being led not by your co or your primary position cosch (oc then qb coach) but by a 3rd depth coach. And it means you don’t have qb coach / oc eyes on those snaps which heavily devalues even having them. 
 

In the nfl, a third unit is run by guest coaches with help from in league scouts. We don’t have that luxury any more. So more than 4 QBs in camp isn’t good unless you have a hurt qb. 
 

In rookie camp you have fleets of WRs and dbs running drills over and over. You end up with an insane volume of throws in even 30-45 minutes. An extra arm there is great. You often see coaches winging balls at times when you have 4 or less or need to spell one guy. 

3 minutes ago, Mike said:

I think it’s pretty simple to decipher … you’ve wanted the guy for a while, bring him in and make him make the decision for you 

I expect we have known if one of a group of guys comes available, the lowest man on the roster is gone. Likely a certain former rider qb.   

[blue85gold]

Turn over every stone you can looking for the next guy at QB. ZC is on the downslope and won’t be here next year. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

3 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Feel like this means a qb cut is happening. 

I like the arm talent. Very easy fluid smooth arm motion. Fast release that he can speed up/shorten if needed. Despite all that he has all the arm strength you could need. Not a laser cannon but really good. Great considering his release and motion. 
 

Sneaky quick and a really smart runner. Doesn’t take stupid hits, runs smart angles, keeps his eyes down field, and can break bigger runs.  

It's kind of a weird situation because Streveler and Patterson are so limited as passers.  You'd think you'd want one veteran backup who can sling it a bit at least, so basically to my mind if you dress one of the first two you need a Wilson or Dolegala type as the other QB dressed.

[Fatty Liver]

45 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

It's kind of a weird situation because Streveler and Patterson are so limited as passers.  You'd think you'd want one veteran backup who can sling it a bit at least, so basically to my mind if you dress one of the first two you need a Wilson or Dolegala type as the other QB dressed.

I think they brought Patterson in just in case Strev. is not ready to go for the start of the season, they both fulfill the same role as the short package QB.

As Walters said in his presser, if available for TC Elgersma is there to observe and learn with zero expectations this season.

 

 

[SpeedFlex27]

6 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

I think they brought Patterson in just in case Strev. is not ready to go for the start of the season, they both fulfill the same role as the short package QB.

As Walters said in his presser, if available for TC Elgersma is there to observe and learn with zero expectations this season.

 

 

I've been following Chris Streveler on Instagram this entire off season. The man is more than ready. He's completely healed from his injury. His workout routine was insane, The Bombers have known that for months that he'd be ready to go. Two qbs will be ultimately released, probably the two former Rider qbs. 

[Booch]

10 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Feel like this means a qb cut is happening. 

I like the arm talent. Very easy fluid smooth arm motion. Fast release that he can speed up/shorten if needed. Despite all that he has all the arm strength you could need. Not a laser cannon but really good. Great considering his release and motion. 
 

Sneaky quick and a really smart runner. Doesn’t take stupid hits, runs smart angles, keeps his eyes down field, and can break bigger runs.  

I think Pattersons days are numbered

7 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

It's kind of a weird situation because Streveler and Patterson are so limited as passers.  You'd think you'd want one veteran backup who can sling it a bit at least, so basically to my mind if you dress one of the first two you need a Wilson or Dolegala type as the other QB dressed.

Strev isnt limited.....thats just the assumption based on how we basically mis-used him here.....take away his rookie yr....his 2 yrs as a qb in college and his NFL work....he passed just fine.....and would be even better in a game plan and system tailored to him.....

[Booch]

2 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I've been following Chris Streveler on Instagram this entire off season. The man is more than ready. He's completely healed from his injury. His workout routine was insane, The Bombers have known that for months that he'd be ready to go. Two qbs will be ultimately released, probably the two former Rider qbs. 

yeah....I saw him in April....he will be ready to compete

And the notion he cant pass is almost laughable....watch him run thru a route tree....or make throws from all spots on the field....then get back to me

He has a stronger arm than ZC...had a stronger arm than Brown....Wilson currently has best arm in camp .....the last 2 yrs ZC has tossed a lot of ducks out there....above and beyond all those pics...and was real lucky he didnt throw more....and thats not just due to him getting "used" to new receivers or "injury" issues on offence. A QB with legit arm talent....and cognitive ability to grasp whats going on around him can be successful with any group of pro receivers and a solid OC....

This camp and first 3...4 weeks will be interesting in my opinion with ZC to see how he does, and if he is on serious decline...until shown otherwise I'm leaning on the latter

[Bigblue204]

Not a chance this regime goes into the season without a veteran backup who is a clear leader on the team. Streveler will be qb#2 with the slight chance Wilson beats him out. But that's unlikely given the guy who is currently HC.

If i had to bet, I'd say Dolegala and Patterson won't even see the first preseason game.

[Booch]

52 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Not a chance this regime goes into the season without a veteran backup who is a clear leader on the team. Streveler will be qb#2 with the slight chance Wilson beats him out. But that's unlikely given the guy who is currently HC.

If i had to bet, I'd say Dolegala and Patterson won't even see the first preseason game.

Yup...for a regime that puts at times...too much relevance in vets...no way they going to war in 2025 with ZC..Wilson and rando scrub....not happening...And I wont be shocked to see Strev taking reps and situational work away from ZC

[Goalie]

14 hours ago, bigg jay said:

He was on the list of neg list names that got revealed in December.

Season Stats
Games Played: 11 | Starts: 10 
Passing: 187-298-7 for 2,672 yards and 20 TDs | Long: 70
Rushing: 59-146 1 TD | Long: 16
Total Offense: 357 plays | 2,818 yards
Punting: 36.0 average (2-72) | I20: 1 | Long: 42

 

would you look at that. He can punt also. 

I feel there’s the real possibility that Strev is used as a QB finally. Again. Dude was good when they let him throw a few years ago. Went to nfl. Came back. Didn’t let him throw.