All in all...another disappointment, and there are several reasons for it again...constants if you may call them that and really easily solved...and many won't like hearing this and will blindly disagree, but it's easily fixed if Osh would pull his head partly out his arse. The onus this off-season is on Walters and his team to sign and bring in the talent...and also part ways with some guys...even if the coach disagrees. I cannot see Miller being happy, nor he wanting a major bedshitting at home next yr in the Cup...let alone not even getting to the Cup... 

Thru necessity and not choice we have had to get younger and thats a plus...there are some solid pieces here now to go with keeping the right vets...and thats they key part of it...right vets. And by vet i mean a guy who's been here this yr and before

Lawler and Schoen..Strev...Wilson...Clercius...BO...Demski...Woli ..MCI...Wallace....Bryant...Randolph...Eli......WJ...Nichols...Bonds...Ford...Holm...Griffin...Kramdi...Kelly...Cole...Garbutt....Woods....Adams...Lawson...was on fence with Haba but he stepped up so deserves another shot......Ayers...Hubert..,,Samson...Chris Smith deserves another shot....Person....Qb Wilson....Hubert deserves another camp....I'd love to see Notree back....thats the core we need to focus on retaining....fill in around that...everyone not mentioned who wasn't primarily a ST guy should not be back...and saves up some serious SMS bucks...and makes us younger...hungrier....better

On the fence with ZC and his hefty contract....he will be another yr older and do we want another season of stats only to stumble in play-offs? It seems to be the trend and not a one off....

We have the guys to maintain a core like we seem to like to do...but a younger core....and we need to go that route...and this is totally up to our HC now to do the right thing(s) 

We are set up for continued sustained success....but we need to bring the right players along for it...We need a stud interior dlineman to augment what we have...we need a legit difference maker linebacker...we need a real returner....we need another proven Canadian offensive lineman...we need a real punter....I see 5 dire needs...which isn't a lot in the grand scheme....and the biggest thing we need to do is construct the roster and the PR aa an entity that compliments and covers it....no more carrying wasted spots....or guys all yr that will never bump anyone off...we seem to do that a lot too

And the biggest key...we need to dress and play the best players we have...regardless of birth certificate and or position...and if that means moving pieces around and switching ratio spots...so be it

Edited November 18, 20241 yr by Booch

16 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/blue-bombers-clean-lockers-coming-224349909.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALBQXQfa-4z_A7EsX_udytvYAkPHd8aaGZGhtZCRiT1oxh82vPPWfwX57kQiFfzkfSqsjwbukLPkRz5eT3RGzUJxE0eVqW0NKFELqImWSXsR2tcWtoYdR5FsJ7bmEdKgeWYoQkcbGnvVz1GQlyYqyOtFcJBVOgxC8h9xvoVp39-8

Brady with some interesting comments here.

A little bit whiny for my taste.... But was glad to see him say, toward the end, it's not my place to say anything. I'm just one piece of the pie. 

11 minutes ago, Noeller said:

A little bit whiny for my taste.... But was glad to see him say, toward the end, it's not my place to say anything. I'm just one piece of the pie. 

I can't fault him. I bet he may end up regretting saying that to the media cause I'm sure it'll be spinned...but I like that he said it. Hopefully it's another wake up call for everyone that changes need to be made.

16 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

I can't fault him. I bet he may end up regretting saying that to the media cause I'm sure it'll be spinned...but I like that he said it. Hopefully it's another wake up call for everyone that changes need to be made.

He got in trouble with his mouth last off-season, took him awhile to earn fans back after he signed.

22 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

I can't fault him. I bet he may end up regretting saying that to the media cause I'm sure it'll be spinned...but I like that he said it. Hopefully it's another wake up call for everyone that changes need to be made.

No need for spin unless you are Buck. The fans agree with Brady.

1 hour ago, Noeller said:

A little bit whiny for my taste.... But was glad to see him say, toward the end, it's not my place to say anything. I'm just one piece of the pie. 

for real??!?!?1....I would have,,,...and he should have said more.....and some are biting their tongues right now...hard ....keeping quiet at times allows crap to fester...and yes players have right to make coaches accountable too.....he's earned th explanation.....guys who are ho hum about it need to be expelled...coaches included

Others on the list echoed that desire, including veteran offensive linemen Stanley Bryant and Pat Neufeld and defensive end Willie Jefferson, who had an outstanding Grey Cup performance.

After opening the season 0-4, then going to 2-6 before finishing 11-7 and winning the West Division title, Bryant said the way they lost the Grey Cup was disappointing and embarrassing.

“Just can’t go out like that,” said Bryant, an eight-time CFL all-star who turns 39 in May.

Players like these 3....thats who you bring back...and they see that they were failed and it's not right...nor what we wanna be remembered as.....enough of the Oshea Country Club of friends and Favorites.....

1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:

I can't fault him. I bet he may end up regretting saying that to the media cause I'm sure it'll be spinned...but I like that he said it. Hopefully it's another wake up call for everyone that changes need to be made.

no he wont....

50 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

No need for spin unless you are Buck. The fans agree with Brady.

only one the last 3 yrs who been spinning crap is the HC

Brady just sounds like he's being honest. Guy wears his heart on his sleeve so you get comments like this which I am fine with. Honestly better than the platitudes others give us.

Yeah i don't get it as whiny from  Brady. Guy was asked why he didn't see the ball more he doesn't know. It's fair for players and coaches to dissect what happened and run through the what ifs.

4 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

He got in trouble with his mouth last off-season, took him awhile to earn fans back after he signed.

Bro. He rescues puppies in the off season.  

6 hours ago, Noeller said:

A little bit whiny for my taste.... But was glad to see him say, toward the end, it's not my place to say anything. I'm just one piece of the pie. 

It IS his place to say something. He’s a leader on this team and the engine that keeps our offense running. I’m glad he spoke up, especially given that the coaching staff won’t ever explain a single thing publicly.

I appreciate someone questioning the process.

13 hours ago, CodyT said:

Have we given up on the possibility of Strev being the next in line.

Yes because Buck for some reason wants to play him like Lapo did with him doing gadget plays and being a battering ram.     I almost want Strev to get a fresh start where they will treat him like a QB.  

 

I feel with our great RB and receivers... if we had a guy who can distribute the ball without taking unnecessary risks (i.e. Zach forcing throws and the ints getting out of control)  that we would do really well.   Sadly Trevor Harris in the grey cup would of done signficantly better then Zach.   I'm guessing we stick with Zach next season and then two years from now they revisit who they want to start for the club.  I'm guessing next year is just another year where we wash out and following that we go through the growing pains of starting with a new QB.  

6 hours ago, Mike said:

It IS his place to say something. He’s a leader on this team and the engine that keeps our offense running. I’m glad he spoke up, especially given that the coaching staff won’t ever explain a single thing publicly.

I appreciate someone questioning the process.

Like players....coaches too have to be held accountable....a player messes up...underperformed...usually they get yanked...except here it seems if you are a vet...or a player the coach has some odd love for...same should hold true with coaches..they are a team...right?

Kudos dor speaking up...more could have been said...I bet more will 

Know what, 

MOS = Dave Ritchie

Dinwiddie = Cal Murphy

 

 

22 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

No need for spin unless you are Buck. The fans agree with Brady.

Absolutely. If Miller/Walters/O'Shea think that the vast majority of Bomber fans are to stupid to have seen what has been going on, they will be shocked when the attendance falls.

9 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

Know what, 

MOS = Dave Ritchie

Dinwiddie = Cal Murphy

 

 

Dinwiddie = Cal Murphy?

Wash your mouth out with soap. 🙂

3 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Dinwiddie = Cal Murphy?

Wash your mouth out with soap. 🙂

Better track record, though, although Cal had to work with a bargain basement budget.

2 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Better track record, though, although Cal had to work with a bargain basement budget.

Sure but when I hear the word legend, Dinwiddie's name does not come to mind (maybe in time).

But hey to each their own.

6 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Sure but when I hear the word legend, Dinwiddie's name does not come to mind (maybe in time).

But hey to each their own.

Don Matthews was a legend but his end was less than glorious.

3 hours ago, Tracker said:

Don Matthews was a legend but his end was less than glorious.

That’s how all coaching careers end sadly

4 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Dinwiddie = Cal Murphy?

Wash your mouth out with soap. 🙂

Not an exact clone or anything, but 
as a modern day equivalent, he’s closer than anyone else in the league. 

I used the comparison because Dinwiddie can be kind of crusty towards his players when it’s needed, the same way Cal was. 

I see similarities between Osh and Richie as “players coach” types, letting veteran players kind of run the room. 

Both approaches can work at different times, but I always thought the Head Coach needs to be a bit of a **** every so often.
 

 

Edited November 21, 20241 yr by JohnnyAbonny

4 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Sure but when I hear the word legend, Dinwiddie's name does not come to mind (maybe in time).

But hey to each their own.

 

4 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Sure but when I hear the word legend, Dinwiddie's name does not come to mind (maybe in time).

But hey to each their own.

Idk, I hate Toronto as a franchise both now and historically, but I mean 2 Grey cup wins and a 16-1 season in the first 4 years of a HC career is pretty damn impressive.

30 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

 

Idk, I hate Toronto as a franchise both now and historically, but I mean 2 Grey cup wins and a 16-1 season in the first 4 years of a HC career is pretty damn impressive.

And really without any exceptional player(s) at the QB position.

1 minute ago, Mark H. said:

And really without any exceptional player(s) at the QB position.

Indeed... It was all about their lines, and the defense in particular. Ricky Ray was probably the last QB of note in that organization...

Take it for what it's worth,

And I'm wrong most of the time.

But after having a few days to digest, this team and coaching staff are going to come back angry.  I think the aura is going to be different.

well Dinwiddie has been to 2 cups...won both....both times as the big underdog....once with looney toons and a raw sex pest at QB...the other with career nobody Arbuckle.....who's the better coach?...He also as an organization has way less support and significantly less to his disposal in terms of facilities...amenities...etc....

15 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Sure but when I hear the word legend, Dinwiddie's name does not come to mind (maybe in time).

But hey to each their own.

It really should...solid regular seasons mixed with an all time one. 2 grey cups in 3 years. That's pretty solid imo.