Apologies if this is breaking some MBB protocol ...it's time to move on to the next game...I don't know the practice schedule for this week but it will be interesting to see if there were any injuries or other changes in the lineup.  
 

We will prob never know for sure what happened to the o-line last game - was it just BC trying harder? A specific scheme that gave us trouble (and now all teams are going to try it) but I am pretty confident they will bounce back.

I believe Rick Campbell is a great coach - jason Maas not so much..Stanback is a beast and that moves on to concerns about the defense and the matchups this week...I think the oline will sort itself out and the offense overall- defense I am legit worried.  I don't think the talent is there, willie is more effective on a rotation and Laurence hasn't shown he can cover 1a or 1b level receiver yet. 
 

Right now I am thinking this game will be close, maybe a last minute FG wins or loses it.

On 2023-06-27 at 3:50 PM, greenrider55 said:

Interesting that Schoen is missing the first day of practice again. Not that he needs the practice.

Has a bruised hip. Nothing that will keep him out of a game, but rest is always the best medicine for it.

Plus he has taken some shots early on. Including that super douchebaggy dirty as hell late hit at the start of the BC game. Probably needs a break so he doesn't break entirely.

There’s something weird about Agudosi. I’d say lackadaisical, but that’s not really it.  Just doesn’t strike me as a very aggressive player. The body catching kind of goes with that too. 

Edited June 29, 20232 yr by JohnnyAbonny

Are we really going to rag on Agudosi in his first handful of starts? Guy has made some big plays for us. If he is out this week, it likely isn't performance related. We gameplan differently for each team we face and maybe the coaches see something that makes them believe McCrae might be the better option this week. The guy is on a 700 yard pace as essentially a rookie playing our 5th receiver spot. 

Edited June 29, 20232 yr by GCn20

13 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Are we really going to rag on Agudosi in his first handful of starts? Guy has made some big plays for us. If he is out this week, it likely isn't performance related. We gameplan differently for each team we face and maybe the coaches see something that makes them believe McCrae might be the better option this week. The guy is on a 700 yard pace as essentially a rookie playing our 5th receiver spot. 

Dudes has had 12 targets in 3 games...and for whatever reason he get pulled out a lot in the red zone plays....which also seems counter productive with a guy that possess' that size..has caught 9 of 12...drew a few penalties....not like he trash...if he was cut loose he's be signed prob fast as Castillo was signed by us

Thing is too...he is real good on teams...one of his positives in the NFL yet we dont use him there...Actually has several punt blocks in his career too....I have talked with the Cards strength and condition coach and he raved about him....his work ethic and his aggresiveness...especially on teams...we jut not utilizing him right...and he is basically option 4 anyway...so what u expect

Edited June 29, 20232 yr by Booch

20 minutes ago, Booch said:

Dudes has had 12 targets in 3 games...and for whatever reason he get pulled out a lot in the red zone plays....which also seems counter productive with a guy that possess' that size..has caught 9 of 12...drew a few penalties....not like he trash...if he was cut loose he's be signed prob fast as Castillo was signed by us

Thing is too...he is real good on teams...one of his positives in the NFL yet we dont use him there...Actually has several punt blocks in his career too....I have talked with the Cards strength and condition coach and he raved about him....his work ethic and his aggresiveness...especially on teams...we jut not utilizing him right...and he is basically option 4 anyway...so what u expect

I stand corrected. Thanks man. Really appreciate your takes on here. 

21 minutes ago, Booch said:

Dudes has had 12 targets in 3 games...and for whatever reason he get pulled out a lot in the red zone plays....which also seems counter productive with a guy that possess' that size..has caught 9 of 12...drew a few penalties....not like he trash...if he was cut loose he's be signed prob fast as Castillo was signed by us

Thing is too...he is real good on teams...one of his positives in the NFL yet we dont use him there...Actually has several punt blocks in his career too....I have talked with the Cards strength and condition coach and he raved about him....his work ethic and his aggresiveness...especially on teams...we jut not utilizing him right...and he is basically option 4 anyway...so what u expect

I suspect they will go back to using him on teams only if he is the extra wr. They don’t usually have the starting WRs play teams. 
 

mccrae didn’t get any pre season action. He may just be getting reps to get sharp. 
 

39 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

There’s something weird about Agudosi. I’d say lackadaisical, but that’s not really it.  Just doesn’t strike me as a very aggressive player. The body catching kind of goes with that too. 

often big smooth players look like that. As if the game is easy on low effort.  
 

35 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Are we really going to rag on Agudosi in his first handful of starts? Guy has made some big plays for us. If he is out this week, it likely isn't performance related. We gameplan differently for each team we face and maybe the coaches see something that makes them believe McCrae might be the better option this week. The guy is on a 700 yard pace as essentially a rookie playing our 5th receiver spot. 

if he starts separating and using his reach he would be elite. But as is he is the guy who will come out for lawler. So he isn’t at all likely to hit 700 which would be close to his entire college and pro career yards combined. 
 29 year old rookie in his 3rd year here. This is his shot to make a career for him self. 

2 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I suspect they will go back to using him on teams only if he is the extra wr. They don’t usually have the starting WRs play teams. 
 

mccrae didn’t get any pre season action. He may just be getting reps to get sharp. 
 

often big smooth players look like that. As if the game is easy on low effort.  
 

if he starts separating and using his reach he would be elite. But as is he is the guy who will come out for lawler. So he isn’t at all likely to hit 700 which would be close to his entire college and pro career yards combined. 
 29 year old rookie in his 3rd year here. This is his shot to make a career for him self. 

He's no Lawler for sure, pretty much every CFL receiver save a couple are in the same boat. My point is that he is doing about as well as one should expect from a backup receiver given his limited playing time thus far and that IF he is not playing this weekend it is unlikely it is because the Bombers are unhappy with his play or that somebody else has passed him on the DC. Guy is doing what we are asking him to do. Could it be better? Sure he could be putting up 150 yds a game....is that a realistic ask...not really.

"To be fair", Zach's ball placement has not always been great for Agudosi to take advantage of, when passing to the tall guy in the corner, the ball should never be underthrown.

2 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

"To be fair", Zach's ball placement has not always been great for Agudosi to take advantage of, when passing to the tall guy in the corner, the ball should never be underthrown.

Agudosi has that feel if we are patient with his growth we will reap the benefits.

4 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Agudosi has that feel if we are patient with his growth we will reap the benefits.

I agree - let's give the kid some time to develop. Way too early to give up on him. However with Lawler back he probably will only get some spot playing time. The question is - When is Lawler back?

 

 

Speaking of Lawler...

2 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

"To be fair", Zach's ball placement has not always been great for Agudosi to take advantage of, when passing to the tall guy in the corner, the ball should never be underthrown.

But if it's under thrown and you're an athletic 6'6 receiver you should be able to adjust and make the db take a penalty. 

 

The guy is an athletic 6'6... he's open on every play even if the db is there with him. I just don't see him making the kind of plays enough that he is here to make. Maybe my expectations are too high, maybe it's scheme, but I want to see more. Guy is playing in Lawlers spot at the moment, perfect opportunity to grab hold and never let go.

6 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

But if it's under thrown and you're an athletic 6'6 receiver you should be able to adjust and make the db take a penalty. 

 

The guy is an athletic 6'6... he's open on every play even if the db is there with him. I just don't see him making the kind of plays enough that he is here to make. Maybe my expectations are too high, maybe it's scheme, but I want to see more. Guy is playing in Lawlers spot at the moment, perfect opportunity to grab hold and never let go.

He may be in Lawler's spot, but he's not playing the same role.

He's getting a limited number of snaps as the first receiver to be rotated out in bigger packages. He's been hit for big plays when we need them, which is exactly what he's probably being asked to do. He is not playing the Lawler role where he's going to get looked at fist 12 times/game. 

On 2023-06-27 at 3:26 PM, BomberBall said:

That’s looking a little better.  Would be huge to get Jeffcoat and Lawson back this week.  I like seeing Eli back at it too.

I was a huge fan of Tui....loved watching him push the pile. Sure hoping he can play up to my expectations!!

Having only 3 games on Canada Day weekend seems like an own goal by the league.

On 2023-06-27 at 4:06 PM, wbbfan said:

Having Eli and Dobson as the subs to come in for short yardage is an insane amount of beef. If Jackson is still dressed that’s just over powered. Short yardage crew should be automatic for 2 or 3 yards at that point. though hopefully that extra beef means we won’t carry Jackson. 
 

I Really want to see Lawson and fox side by side. Good luck dealing with Willy and Habba off the edges when those two collapse the pocket and eat 3 o linemen’s lunch. 
 

if our defence could just get healthy.  Hansen Habba jeffcoat Willy Lawson Thomas fox with kyrie biggie the Canadians and clements at lber. Then 7 deep at the 5 cover spots with the possibility of ford coming back. Man that’s a really good roster. 

I know its crazy but I'm a huge fan of Jackson...and the navy seals!

5 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Plus he has taken some shots early on. Including that super douchebaggy dirty as hell late hit at the start of the BC game. Probably needs a break so he doesn't break entirely.

absolutely

22 minutes ago, ddanger said:

I know its crazy but I'm a huge fan of Jackson...and the navy seals!

Why?

58 minutes ago, ddanger said:

I know its crazy but I'm a huge fan of Jackson...and the navy seals!

I like what he does in the run game. Tremendous blocker. They gotta find a dl spot for him or he has to perform like miller lite on cover team though. 

17 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I like what he does in the run game. Tremendous blocker. They gotta find a dl spot for him or he has to perform like miller lite on cover team though. 

I would actually argue the complete opposite. 

He consistantly whiffs on blocks or gets bowled over blocking for the run game. 

However, he did actually make a tackle on punt cover last week, but I'd much rather have Cole there when he is back to 100%

Just an FYI. The other site is back up.

Kramdi on injured list. Wondering what will happen for game. MOS confirmed in interview today that Darby pulled for poor performance and bad eyes.