It might be just a select few posters I'm seeing do this, but man some of these criticisms just get so old.  Sure it's all warranted and good to rip the guy when he throws bad passes or makes a bad decision, but now it's rip him even when he completes a deep ball to Matthews that was called back, or the one to Whitehead that stood?  I mean, what is this?  Some Nichols witch hunt where he can do no right or something?

I'm not going to pretend that Nichols was all good, but on series's where our offense was off he wasn't the only one who made the errors.  Andrew Harris was not good either outside his TD catch and had as much to do with the struggles, as did Fenner on defense, Adams and some of Lapo's play calls that 17to85 talks about.

Nichols isn't above criticism and he doesn't necessarily deserve heaps of praise on his head.  But it's absolutely ridiculous to assume that he single-handedly wins or loses games.  That's not how Mike O'Shea's team works.

And his passing yards are meaningless.  You can rack up yards all day against bend but don't break defenses, but if you don't get TDs out of them, you are overrated.  Yup, I said it.  Passing yards are completely meaningless.

Edited June 29, 20196 yr by USABomberfan

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I hope I didn't hurt you.

naw... I failed on the cart wheel attempt but landed just clear of your landing... it was all good...

3 hours ago, 17to85 said:

If it is so easy then why are the Bombers 6-2? Why have they won amongst the most games cumulatively the last few seasons? Why is Harris always one of the top yardage guys in the league? 

Harris is the star of this offense, God damn rights they're going to use him a lot.

The best special teams and return game we have in my life time. Defense among the best for points against. Because harris is the top guy in terms of useage every year here, and in his time here no one else has been nearly as run heavy as us. 

Its a big difference between using him alot, and him being our only hope. 

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Well according to Andrew Harris that's the game plan so.....

i 100% believe that he is our 2nd check down at least on 3/4s of passing plays. Its a chicken or the egg situation. Is the pass game gimped because of nichols or is nichols gimped because our play call is gimped. I think its both to an extent. Clearly nichols has played poorly the last few weeks over all and early was taking massive advantage of the incredible field position (not by any means a bad thing) and its also clear plop gets overly conservative and out thinks him self. Instead of off setting each others weakness, they compound the same problem. Hense the plop vs nichols thread. Replace plop in season gives us the best chance at improving this year. As we arent going to just get an elite qb dropped into our lap. However, our ability to retain plop past this season is much stronger and I think he brings more long term value. Not an easy decision. And not a decision that is going to be made now or tomorrow. But it is a discussion and real concern. Right now thats our primary limiting factor. If it wasnt for that, we would be the biggest favorite to win a GC since the lopsided 90s. 

This thread reeks of PTSD...

2 hours ago, 66 Chevelle said:

that's me in the front, trying to do a cart wheel...  

 

2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Nope, this is me in the 1909 Grey Cup.  I flew higher than the Wright Brothers that day.

 

The 1909 Grey Cup was played at Rosedale Field in Toronto - 400 yards from where I grew up as a kid, 50 years later. There's a plaque there commemorating the game. First Grey Cup Game.

1 minute ago, Doublezero said:

 

The 1909 Grey Cup was played at Rosedale Field in Toronto - 400 yards from where I grew up as a kid, 50 years later. There's a plaque there commemorating the game. First Grey Cup Game.

well then, I was damn near doing cart wheels in your front yard! lol...

4 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Well according to Andrew Harris that's the game plan so.....

Controlling the message....

Except I don't think Harris actually feels this way.... just being a good teammate and not trying to rock the boat!

In part the offence is trending down because:

We were ahead of most teams at the beginning of they year because we didn't have as many changes to make. They've caught up now.

It's way easier to score against the bottom teams in the league than it is against top half teams like Calgary.

We got a few huge plays early in games that put us way out in front. Nichols is streaky and when things go well he usually plays well.

11 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

In part the offence is trending down because:

We were ahead of most teams at the beginning of they year because we didn't have as many changes to make. They've caught up now.

It's way easier to score against the bottom teams in the league than it is against top half teams like Calgary.

We got a few huge plays early in games that put us way out in front. Nichols is streaky and when things go well he usually plays well.

Didn’t have as many changes...?  New interior OL, new slotback - seems like a weird excuse

14 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

We were ahead of most teams at the beginning of they year because we didn't have as many changes to make. They've caught up now.

Is this a joke? You were the one talking about how far back our team was going to be because we were starting 3 new OL. 

Do you even process some of the stuff you write? 

Changing out coaching staffs and huge portions of teams is way more disruptive than changing out 3 OL who already know the system.

Just curious, what does everyone think of Nichols play lately?

2 hours ago, TBURGESS said:

Changing out coaching staffs and huge portions of teams is way more disruptive than changing out 3 OL who already know the system.

Right that's what everyone told you when you were complaining about the OL

17 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Right that's what everyone told you when you were complaining about the OL

Exactly what everyone told me in the off season. Now they want to say it's a stupid opinion.

5 hours ago, TBURGESS said:

It's way easier to score against the bottom teams in the league than it is against top half teams like Calgary.

We got a few huge plays early in games that put us way out in front. Nichols is streaky and when things go well he usually plays well.

First point is wrong...  Toronto has a crap defense...    Hamilton is/was super easy to run against....  Ottawa was able to put up points against Calgary. 

Second point I agree with... the guy plays emotional and has way to many ups and down.  This is why it might be wise to sit him for 1 - 2 series to calm down when things are not going right. 

14 minutes ago, Brandon said:

First point is wrong...  Toronto has a crap defense...    Hamilton is/was super easy to run against....  Ottawa was able to put up points against Calgary. 

Second point I agree with... the guy plays emotional and has way to many ups and down.  This is why it might be wise to sit him for 1 - 2 series to calm down when things are not going right. 

I assume that you are referring to the last 90 seconds of the game.

30 minutes ago, Brandon said:

First point is wrong...  Toronto has a crap defense...    Hamilton is/was super easy to run against....  Ottawa was able to put up points against Calgary. 

Second point I agree with... the guy plays emotional and has way to many ups and down.  This is why it might be wise to sit him for 1 - 2 series to calm down when things are not going right. 

Toronto is a bottom team with a crap defence. Same goes for BC. Ottawa has the worst yards against in the league.