Floyd Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Goalie said: DE in the CFL but... He also said the terms have to be right and they're still looking at NFL... freep article didn't seem to promising... I think its still a couple years before we see him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Goalie said: DE in the CFL but... Have a weird feeling we'll be trading him to Montreal in the next two weeks. Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Have a weird feeling we'll be trading him to Montreal in the next two weeks. Right after they fire Thorpe and replace him with Casey Creehan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Blue Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 14 minutes ago, Floyd said: He also said the terms have to be right and they're still looking at NFL... freep article didn't seem to promising... I think its still a couple years before we see him At this point I doubt that it is a couple of years. I think he's in the CFL this year or next year. Have to think his NFL opportunities are almost all dried up. He spent all of last year as a free agent, and cut by two teams this year. He has no PR eligibility left, and I believe his min salary is higher than a rookie. If he wants to play football, it will be in the CFL. Brandon Blue&Gold and TBURGESS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb1 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Floyd said: Right after they fire Thorpe and replace him with Casey Creehan... If they fire Thorpe I hope we are on the phone to bring him in as a consultant....and then next year who knows... Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Lawrence alone would be worth the trade. Mark F and blue_gold_84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 JBR, why Montreal? If so, who do you think we'd get back? bb1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 I'm a Defense guy but If I'm on the offense, if I'm on special teams, when I hear the statement the difference in the game was Nichols int and Demski's return I'm like what? How about making the necessary in-game D adjustments and locking down 1st Q not 3rd Q? We all know Football is a team game and every phase sucked, the difference was multiple plays in all three phases not one play on O and one play on special teams. Plays that made the difference don't always have to be big plays. We lost the key battles all game. I hear the O given a hard time about Garbage time, how about the D, when the game is over by all accounts, they are getting garbage time to, i.e., offense more conservative, protecting a lead no turnovers. We'll stomp them next week. We can't win every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 34 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: JBR, why Montreal? If so, who do you think we'd get back? He's from Montreal and they need Canadians bad. We don't really have a roster spot/cap space for him and would probably gladly take a draft pick or two and a neg lister perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said: He's from Montreal and they need Canadians bad. We don't really have a roster spot/cap space for him and would probably gladly take a draft pick or two and a neg lister perhaps. Cutting Okpalaugo would take care of that in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb1 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said: He's from Montreal and they need Canadians bad. We don't really have a roster spot/cap space for him and would probably gladly take a draft pick or two and a neg lister perhaps. No, never can have too many top Canadians so if it's cap reasons you move some one else. Hurl would be a good start...or Oka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 I'd say it's more the system than the players but it's definitely both. It's not a championship calibre defense, that's for damn sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Unger Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Anybody think Mulumba could play middle linebacker in the cfl?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Colin Unger said: Anybody think Mulumba could play middle linebacker in the cfl?? Lol....as discussed all last week, he and Geoff Gray could rotate in and out......they'd be dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) Not too sure why you laugh at that notion...I as a player of the same size, and also played the same positions as him I totally think and believe he could . You have to let go of these perceived ideas as to what a LB is in the NFL and CFL...Body compositions...yadda...yadda yadda....it's crap His measurable are similar to what several middle linebacker's had if you want to compare that, and as well in Hall's scheme right now Hurl is more of a gap occupier and an extension of the d-line responsibility and coverage in the flats at times. Mulumba is quicker...and faster...yes these are two different things and is the better athlete. He would cover a RB out of the backfield no worse than whats going on now, but he would stuff runs, not be 2 seconds too late on plays and would be a better blitzer off the edge or right up the gut He also plays all special teams and if came up would be game shape ready right away. This "opinion" on here by people who have never played, or only played at a highschool level makes me laugh at times. If he came up here, I'd plug him in the middle pronto in a rotaion at first as he gets used to the cfl pace, then work him into the full time guy Edited September 5, 2017 by Booch SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 31 minutes ago, Colin Unger said: Anybody think Mulumba could play middle linebacker in the cfl?? totally SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) A guy who has never played off the line of scrimmage at a higher level is going to have a hell of a time with reads and footwork off of it IMO, in a league where 75-80% of the plays are passing. It would be a project. Why don't we put Westerman at MLB? Edited September 5, 2017 by JuranBoldenRules James, Noeller and sweep the leg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 but he has played off the line before., so it's not a foreign thing to him. And did it lots in College as well. We use DE's in coverage at times anyway, so yeah...I bet Westerman would do fine there and probably better than Hurl too. Like I said...our MLB isn't a coverage guy generally and is responsible to control gaps...Hurl can't do it..gets washed out 9 times out of 10 and isn't a true thumper, so basically is just out there getting in the way of things Colin Unger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Well everyone in the front is in responsible for a gap but the "LB's" need to read run vs pass and pick in their zone/man too. The whole D does that and that's where guys like Heath and Randle have been getting burned worrying about coming up to run support/keep contain. Our MLB blitzes often but is also often in man coverage and zone coverage. When a DL drops out they usually are just dropping to a spot. I've only seen longer highlight tapes of Mulumba from his junior and senior year at EMU but vast majority of plays on those tapes (YouTube) he's in a 3 or 4 point rush stance and coming up field. If we have any DL I'd have some confidence in to move to LB it's Jeffcoat. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty30 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Unger Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 30 minutes ago, Dirty30 said: Cap space move for Mulumba lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Dirty30 said: All posted earlier...just a heads up..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Well everyone in the front is in responsible for a gap but the "LB's" need to read run vs pass and pick in their zone/man too. The whole D does that and that's where guys like Heath and Randle have been getting burned worrying about coming up to run support/keep contain. Our MLB blitzes often but is also often in man coverage and zone coverage. When a DL drops out they usually are just dropping to a spot. I've only seen longer highlight tapes of Mulumba from his junior and senior year at EMU but vast majority of plays on those tapes (YouTube) he's in a 3 or 4 point rush stance and coming up field. If we have any DL I'd have some confidence in to move to LB it's Jeffcoat. Great insight in how not trusting a teammate (s) to do their job can result in very bad decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Does anyone else here detect a whiff of bovine excrement when O'Shea and Hall talk about Hurl being used primarily to engage an opposing O-lineman as opposed to a "traditional" linebacking role? I cannot see how a 218 lb linebacker is expected to consistently stop or even slow down a 300lb O-lineman who will have 2-3 yards to pick up speed. It seems to me that they are stuck with him in that position due to having no better options and they have sort of adapted the role to try to minimize his liabilities- in other words, he is expected to serve as a speed-bump with the number 10 on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 That's why a Mulumba would fill that role nicely. That system can work effectively if you have the horse to pull that carriage, but Hurl isn't that horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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