SPuDS Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 its a fair play yes.. but its also frowned upon by almost all GM's across the board. I imagine if you discuss it with the coach/gm first and then work from there, its all good but just to put a claim for a player on the PR?? that gentleman's agreement that creates animosity between GMs when you abuse it.. thats probably the only real "cost" of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) Edited August 9, 2017 by Noeller The Classic, rebusrankin and Nash00 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 I don't understand the problem. Teams have been claiming players from other team's practice rosters for years. That is why teams use the 1-game IR. It is allowed and there is no gentleman's agreement about not doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 55 minutes ago, Noeller said: Noeller, The Classic and Nash00 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 22 hours ago, WBBFanWest said: This post drips with irony, but at least you didn't start a thread to say it! Don't get him motivated... Another thread asking for our opinion yet never stating his... The Classic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 hours ago, MC said: I don't understand the problem. Teams have been claiming players from other team's practice rosters for years. That is why teams use the 1-game IR. It is allowed and there is no gentleman's agreement about not doing it. If teams are really concerned about this problem they can negotiate it out of the next CBA. Players will probably say no problem, all you have to do is pay PR players a full salary, cause that's what a player gets when they are moved from the PR to the AR. And that's when teams will once again say they are fine with keeping things as they are. We are witness to the birth of status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 On 08/08/2017 at 10:39 AM, Booch said: Was it ever let out to be known who tried to grab Spooner? Regarding your topic title, why are you assuming it was a western team that tried to claim him (if that is actually the case)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted August 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Because from whom I talked to in the apparent know told me so. I respect and trust them so pretty much believe it was a Western team SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Not sure it ever happened. Spooner was added to the 1 game injured list Aug 3 (https://www.cfl.ca/transactions/) and wasn't on the 46 man roster (https://d3ham790trbkqy.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2016/06/Depth-at-Ottawa-August-4.pdf) for the Aug 4th game. Rules (https://cfldb.ca/faq/rosters/) state: Quote Practice roster contracts allow a player to be signed by another club to a regular player contract, meaning the player must take an active (46-man) roster spot (sign a standard player contract). The club that currently holds the practice roster contract has the same option to sign the player to a standard player contract (and place the player on a 46-man roster spot) to avoid losing the player. Players under practice roster contracts are not allowed to sign a practice roster agreement with another team until they are released from the contract or the contract expires. johnzo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted August 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 the player can refuse too...Spooner likes it here and where the team is headed so most likely said no Plus the cost to live here probably factors in too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 I suspect BC given the fact that they've been starting 4 on the line and Foucalt had a head injury and they only had 5 healthy NI OL to begin with, coupled with the signing of Andrew Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Booch said: the player can refuse too...Spooner likes it here and where the team is headed so most likely said no Plus the cost to live here probably factors in too Players can refuse, but that doesn't explain why Spooner was moved from the PR to the 1 game IR, unless it's a reward for refusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted August 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 yeah..i could see that as as roster sits now they couldnt 46 man him, so perhaps did it this way to get him game cheque cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 I betcha it was that snake oil salesman in Regina who was poking around knowing his woes on the o line...Spooner probably took one look at that train wreck and said....'save me Walters from this bozo'...Of course he'd refuse to go anyway but getting a nice cheque is alright as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold_Palmer Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 I remember when we were in a position of little depth and were grabbing guys off PR. I don't miss that era. I'm so glad we've built a team with a good starters, and good depth, and mostly importantly good Canadian depth. johnzo, The Classic and blue_gold_84 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 On 8/8/2017 at 2:50 PM, Stickem said: Sneaks....just goes to show ya, gm's in desperation mode will come in the back door...Hard to say who for sure but it's not beyond Corky in riderville Wonder if we could interest BC in a trade for newfie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Wonder if we could interest BC in a trade for newfie Sure Neufeld for Brian Burnham, Solomon Elimimian & BC's first rounder in next year's CFL Draft. Wally would jump out of his chair chowing down on his right cheek with that request. bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Sure Neufeld for Brian Burnham, Solomon Elimimian & BC's first rounder in next year's CFL Draft. Wally would jump out of his chair chowing down on his right cheek with that request. Haha cmon now this isnt toronto! SpeedFlex27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Sure Neufeld for Brian Burnham, Solomon Elimimian & BC's first rounder in next year's CFL Draft. Wally would jump out of his chair chowing down on his right cheek with that request. He'd squint so hard his eyes would disappear....Wouldn't a guy like Solo just fit in nicely here though...I'm afraid Neuf won't do it and neither will Wally SpeedFlex27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Dare to dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Yeah, I bet the injured list thing is a bonus to Spooner for staying put with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 16 hours ago, Eternal optimist said: Doing this is totally allowed by the rules, and yet there is a consensus its a dirty move... yet there is no opportunity cost for the team doing it. Why not? I mean it makes the other team have to shuffle their roster if they think the player is legitimate - and if not, you get a swing at a potential gem on another teams' PR. Can't begrudge practice roster players a shot at a starting position. We only pay em, what, $500 a week? That's not enough to get a monopoly on their services. Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 minute ago, johnzo said: Can't begrudge practice roster players a shot at a starting position. We only pay em, what, $500 a week? That's not enough to get a monopoly on their services. PR minimum is $750 now but they can be paid more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Just now, bigg jay said: PR minimum is $750 now but they can be paid more. I think they get free housing and a few other things as well, don't they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Jacquie said: I think they get free housing and a few other things as well, don't they. They get housing or a housing allowance for sure. Not sure what other perks they might get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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