QB Harris & Ottawa's offence have great stats but keep losing ... is this the week they start to turn it around?

*Roc carmichael working at CB at Bomber practice

*Matt Coates the holder on placekicks  #Bombers

Rocky's 3rd position early in his rookie year....that's tough for anyone...

Just now, Noeller said:

Rocky's 3rd position early in his rookie year....that's tough for anyone...

you'd have to think that the coaches clearly see something in him that we dont if they are willing to move him around so often and hope that he can play the position on short training..

 

 

Just now, SPuDS said:

you'd have to think that the coaches clearly see something in him that we dont if they are willing to move him around so often and hope that he can play the position on short training..

 

 

"Athleticism"

15 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

What makes you say that? Why does it have to be this particular upcoming game?

Comes down to numbers, they're currently sitting in 4th place at 3-2.  If they want to make up ground on the teams above them they have to start putting together consecutive wins and beat up on the Eastern teams while they can.  If they lose to the RB's and beat the Ticats, they'll be sitting at 4-3, possibly 4-4 after the Esks game.  If they want to match last years record of 11-7 dicking around .500 at mid-season won't help and I don't think they're likely to string together 7 straight like they did last year to make up ground. 

If you accept that the only thing that matters is making the playoffs that's fine but I think they have to get winning into their DNA so that it becomes the expected norm.

Just now, Noeller said:

"Athleticism"

On the coaches show, he did say that he was a very hard worker and puts in a lot of work in the film room and in the playbooks as well.

1 minute ago, SPuDS said:

On the coaches show, he did say that he was a very hard worker and puts in a lot of work in the film room and in the playbooks as well.

That's the same descriptor he uses for LaPo, Hurl, Hall, Willy, Nichols, Goosen, Hardrick, his paper-boy....etc. etc.

2 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Comes down to numbers, they're currently sitting in 4th place at 3-2.  If they want to make up ground on the teams above them they have to start putting together consecutive wins and beat up on the Eastern teams while they can.  If they lose to the RB's and beat the Ticats, they'll be sitting at 4-3, possibly 4-4 after the Esks game.  If they want to match last years record of 11-7 dicking around .500 at mid-season won't help and I don't think they're likely to string together 7 straight like they did last year to make up ground. 

If you accept that the only thing that matters is making the playoffs that's fine but I think they have to get winning into their DNA so that it becomes the expected norm.

Fair enough. This week's game will be a tough one and the week after in Hamilton has trap game written all over it. I just see the game vs. the Eskimos as being a better indicator of where this team is, though. Gotta be able to compete with the best before knowing where you stand, IMO. Obviously, if they can win the next two, I'll feel better about their chances when they host the division leader.

3 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

That's the same descriptor he uses for LaPo, Hurl, Hall, Willy, Nichols, Goosen, Hardrick, his paper-boy....etc. etc.

 

sure he does.

3 hours ago, 17to85 said:

He's a great play caller when he's down multiple scores or just down and time is running out, but when leading or tied or plenty of time left in the game he is pretty brutal. 

That is why those of us who are frustrated with Lapolice are frustrated with him, because he is inconsistent and if he'd call the entire game like he did when he was trying to climb back into a game things wouldn't get so prone to 2 and outs all the damned time.

 

If that's the case, (not saying it isn't)  the head coach should recognize the problem, and deal with it.

45 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

The next game is always the most important game, so Friday is the most important game of the year, until we play Hamilton and so on.

In other words, (as a coach I heard about put it)

"on to cincinatti"

Edited August 1, 20178 yr by Mark F

22 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Comes down to numbers, they're currently sitting in 4th place at 3-2.  If they want to make up ground on the teams above them they have to start putting together consecutive wins and beat up on the Eastern teams while they can.  If they lose to the RB's and beat the Ticats, they'll be sitting at 4-3, possibly 4-4 after the Esks game.  If they want to match last years record of 11-7 dicking around .500 at mid-season won't help and I don't think they're likely to string together 7 straight like they did last year to make up ground. 

If you accept that the only thing that matters is making the playoffs that's fine but I think they have to get winning into their DNA so that it becomes the expected norm.

yeah but as those other western teams start playing each other more and more they'll pick up some losses of their own. 

I mean yeah you want to pick up wins all the time, but let's not over react. weren't they 1-4 last year at this time? It's the CFL, all you gotta do is make the playoffs, and the Bombers are positioned to do that this year at the pace they're going on. 

33 minutes ago, Noeller said:

"Athleticism"

Sounds like Chris Jones.....

6 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

yeah but as those other western teams start playing each other more and more they'll pick up some losses of their own. 

I mean yeah you want to pick up wins all the time, but let's not over react. weren't they 1-4 last year at this time? It's the CFL, all you gotta do is make the playoffs, and the Bombers are positioned to do that this year at the pace they're going on. 

 

8 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

yeah but as those other western teams start playing each other more and more they'll pick up some losses of their own. 

I mean yeah you want to pick up wins all the time, but let's not over react. weren't they 1-4 last year at this time? It's the CFL, all you gotta do is make the playoffs, and the Bombers are positioned to do that this year at the pace they're going on. 

Sure slipping into the playoffs would be fine but it isn't a great way to pursue a reasonable shot at a GC appearance, if they want to be considered as one of the better teams in the league they need to be fighting for first or second, not fourth place.  This version of the team has a serious shelf life, with Harris, Dressler Leggett and Westerman to name a few nearing the end of their careers.  If they can't make a move this year it has to happen next year as within two years we'll be looking at wholesale change finding new stars to lead the team.

Ideally I would hope the Bombers win this one despite being screwed over by the refs BIG TIME. They deserve to experience the frustration that all their opponents have had to unfairly experience this year.

4 minutes ago, Yourface said:

Ideally I would hope the Bombers win this one despite being screwed over by the refs BIG TIME. They deserve to experience the frustration that all their opponents have had to unfairly experience this year.

I'm pretty sure Carmichael played corner the rest of the game after he was called for PI in the end zone last week.

6 minutes ago, Yourface said:

Ideally I would hope the Bombers win this one despite being screwed over by the refs BIG TIME. They deserve to experience the frustration that all their opponents have had to unfairly experience this year.

1 hour ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

 

Sure slipping into the playoffs would be fine but it isn't a great way to pursue a reasonable shot at a GC appearance, if they want to be considered as one of the better teams in the league they need to be fighting for first or second, not fourth place.  This version of the team has a serious shelf life, with Harris, Dressler Leggett and Westerman to name a few nearing the end of their careers.  If they can't make a move this year it has to happen next year as within two years we'll be looking at wholesale change finding new stars to lead the team.

Ottawa was below .500 and won last year, it's about being good at the right time of year as long as you make it to the dance. Let's be realistic here, unless you are first in your division you have to win 3 games to be Grey Cup champions, does it really matter if this team has to go on the road to get there? Given their record at home over the life span of the stadium maybe they're better off on the road anyway. Just get to the playoffs and win 3 games and no one will remember how your regular season went. 

Bombers are likely to have a really bad game at least once this year, and Ottawa is going to have a breakout game. Lets hope that they are not the same game next Friday.

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

Ottawa was below .500 and won last year, it's about being good at the right time of year as long as you make it to the dance. Let's be realistic here, unless you are first in your division you have to win 3 games to be Grey Cup champions, does it really matter if this team has to go on the road to get there? Given their record at home over the life span of the stadium maybe they're better off on the road anyway. Just get to the playoffs and win 3 games and no one will remember how your regular season went. 

Yah, but where is Ottawa this season?  It seems like we're looking for different things, you want a G.C. asap and you don't care how they go about getting it.  I want them to improve their odds by continuing to build the team until they are legitimate contenders for the G.C. every year, like Cgy. is and Edm. is once again becoming.  That necessitates finishing in upper reaches of the West Division consistently.  Fair chance they won't accomplish it this year but in the end that should be the goal of the current regime.

39 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Yah, but where is Ottawa this season?  It seems like we're looking for different things, you want a G.C. asap and you don't care how they go about getting it.  I want them to improve their odds by continuing to build the team until they are legitimate contenders for the G.C. every year, like Cgy. is and Edm. is once again becoming.  That necessitates finishing in upper reaches of the West Division consistently.  Fair chance they won't accomplish it this year but in the end that should be the goal of the current regime.

No I want a team that makes the playoffs year in and year out. I want a team that can compete with the best teams in the league, which this team can do. I ain't gonna stress about 1st or 4th in the division as long as they make the playoffs, cause once you're in the playoffs you got a chance to win the grey cup if you play well for 3 weeks in a row. 

Every game against an Eastern team is a must-win for a team looking to make the West playoffs, even potentially for 4th place.  If the Bombers go 6-2 against the east (2-0 right now) and manage 4-6 or 5-5 against the West (1-2) they'll surely make the playoffs.  If they sweep the East or do a little better against the West they'll host a playoff game.

Bottom line, gotta feast on these shitty eastern teams, and they are shitty.  No ability to close games.

Just now, 17to85 said:

No I want a team that makes the playoffs year in and year out. I want a team that can compete with the best teams in the league, which this team can do. I ain't gonna stress about 1st or 4th in the division as long as they make the playoffs, cause once you're in the playoffs you got a chance to win the grey cup if you play well for 3 weeks in a row. 

I have heard of such things spoken of in hushed voices around the fire by our ancestors.

12 hours ago, Nash00 said:

I would say that next week VS Hamilton shapes up as more of a trap game, especially with them starting at 0-6 VS Edmonton this week. Hamilton looks awful in all 3 facets but they will win eventually, probably at home if anywhere and we tend to play up/down to the competition so far.

This is a winnable game VS Ottawa for sure, but it's no gimmie. We need this one, I worry about that Hamilton game and we get Edmonton after that so we need to go on a run here VS the East.

I would agree with you, except Hamilton has looked absolutely horrendous so far this season to the point of being non-competitive in all phases. Ottawa on the other hand has only 1 more win than Hamilton, but they are much better than 1-4-1 (as opposed to Hamilton at 0-6). A loss Friday would bring alot of Weiceks and other naysayers out of the woodwork, and the talks of a .500 team will begin anew.