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Not sure what the best place to post this was, could go in Canadian politics or the environmental or random news threads, but it seemed like it would get the most eyeballs here and does impact Trump’s big economic push to salvage his election chances. 
 

Oil went below $0 a barrel today. Yep, oil suppliers are now paying buyers to take it off their hands, since they have too much surplus and can’t even give it away for free. Can’t wait to go to Shell where the sign says “Gas, $20” and go to fill up and have them say “Here’s your gas. And here’s your $20.”

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4 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Speed flex was going off about the military in the streets enforcing laws and restricting our civil liberties. Well, I’d welcome that a whole lot more than seeing civilians parading around with assault rifles prepared to enforce their personal rights over the rights of society at large. 

And remember which political wing has historically used force to enforce dictates. Hint: it ain't socialists.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/atlanta-rages-as-georgia-gov-kemp-eases-covid-19-lockdown?ref=home

‘Mortified and Appalled’: Atlanta Rages as Governor Eases Lockdown

One resident chalked Georgia’s plan to reopen the state from COVID-19 shutdown up to “absolutely nothing but greed and the desire to kiss the president’s ass.”

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2 hours ago, Tracker said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/atlanta-rages-as-georgia-gov-kemp-eases-covid-19-lockdown?ref=home

‘Mortified and Appalled’: Atlanta Rages as Governor Eases Lockdown

One resident chalked Georgia’s plan to reopen the state from COVID-19 shutdown up to “absolutely nothing but greed and the desire to kiss the president’s ass.”

Stacey Abrams looking like a real missed opportunity now.... 

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Trump Favorite Is Under Investigation—and Getting Big Bucks to Build the Wall

Last Wednesday, while the country strained under a nationwide lockdown, Lt. General Semonite’s corps found time to award another border-wall contract to a company Trump personally championed—even as it’s under investigation by the Defense Department inspector general. Specifically, Fisher on Apr. 15 got $7,633,085 to build a mere “800 linear feet” of bollard barrier—that slatted design Trump favors—for the wall in Yuma, Ariz.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-favorite-is-under-investigationand-getting-big-bucks-to-build-the-wall?ref=home

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On 2020-04-20 at 3:50 PM, The Unknown Poster said:

Just lies lies and more lies.  The reason Im confident is because all Trump can do is play to his base.  His only hope to win re-election is self inflicted wounds by the Dems.  Sadly, that is always possible.

Their last loss was self - inflicted; at this point, I have no reason to believe it won't happen again.  We know several Americans who come up here to ice fish every year - they are reasonable and intelligent people.  They don't want to vote for Trump, and they don't like the alternatives, so they probably won't vote at all.  

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3 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Their last loss was self - inflicted; at this point, I have no reason to believe it won't happen again.  We know several Americans who come up here to ice fish every year - they are reasonable and intelligent people.  They don't want to vote for Trump, and they don't like the alternatives, so they probably won't vote at all.  

That infuriates me.

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2 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Their last loss was self - inflicted; at this point, I have no reason to believe it won't happen again.  We know several Americans who come up here to ice fish every year - they are reasonable and intelligent people.  They don't want to vote for Trump, and they don't like the alternatives, so they probably won't vote at all.  

Thats true.  Capturing those "wont vote" people is important.  There will likely be little to no protest vote AGAINST the Dems (everyone who is an alt right person would vote for Trump anyway.  Its those center-right that have voted conservative their whole life who dislike Trump but cant bring themselves to vote for a Dem that need to be captured.  Hopefully they can do it.  Plus, energizing the left, many of whom may not usually vote if they feel their vote doesnt matter.  It will matter this year.

And just wait...Biden will be up in the days preceding the election and the talk will shift to "stop saying Biden will win..." as some people dont go to the effort of voting if they assume their guy will win (and I have no doubt the government will make it as difficult as possible for people to vote).

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53 minutes ago, do or die said:

The though that some people, still even believe in anything that comes out of his mouth.....is simply mind boggling.

As I've said before, the most infuriating thing to me with this guy are the intelligent people who remain undecided on whether they would support him or not. Not the zealots, not the "I'd vote for him no matter what' type people, it's the the intelligent ones that have shone they critically think. That's beyond mindboggling and maybe I've overestimated them somehow, maybe he is truly showing some peoples real colours we have never seen before. This has NOTHING to do with differing political ideologies, differing policy positions, stances on socialism versus capitalism, health and crime issues etc. I wouldn't want him coaching my sons football team, not because he may see sfootball differently than some others, it's because I would fear for my son's and his teammates safety and wellbeing along with the other teams and their fans, along with all the referees , all the football officials, media, anyone who comes in constant contact with him.  I work in the area of leadership and team development, I don't pretend to know everything  and I'm always learning more about human beings and how they operate and thus far everything I've come to learn and experience shows that if you do everything opposite of what he does, all will be good.

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On 2020-04-21 at 9:28 AM, Tracker said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/atlanta-rages-as-georgia-gov-kemp-eases-covid-19-lockdown?ref=home

‘Mortified and Appalled’: Atlanta Rages as Governor Eases Lockdown

One resident chalked Georgia’s plan to reopen the state from COVID-19 shutdown up to “absolutely nothing but greed and the desire to kiss the president’s ass.”

 

 

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2 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

 I don't pretend to know everything  and I'm always learning more about human beings and how they operate and thus far everything I've come to learn and experience shows that if you do everything opposite of what he does, all will be good.

Narcissists make horrible leaders. Good leaders actually value quality people around them because they have that confidence to let others lift them up.

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