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The Unknown Poster Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Trump is back to claiming he doesnt know Putin, never met him, has no deals. And he's being savaged for it since he's admitted knowing him and his son admitted that they made a ton of money from Russia. You'd think Trump would be smart enough to stop acting like a thin skinned child on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) This Russian thing is going to provide Trump, with some problems down the road. Plenty of Republicans in both the house and Senate view Putin as simply a KGB thug and virtual dictator - this mutual admiration society, or bromance, is already causing teeth in Washington to grind. Protecting family investments in Russia - awash with both underworld and government crooks, is not going to play well - ever with his deluded base. Trump admires Putin as a "strong man who is not afraid" and simply wishes he had that sort of set up himself - with no worries about irritating things like free speech, polls, mass demonstrations, media criticism, or SNL skits....... Edited February 7, 2017 by do or die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 The SNL skits are tremendous. Almost makes me want to watch SNL again. The Spicer one was gold and supposedly Spicer was really upset and Trump actually views it as Spicer's fault that he was played by a woman. So ofcourse now the talk is a woman playing Trump or Bannon in a skit with Rosie Oddonell a possibility. Its hilarious in how much it bothers Trump. If I was Spicer I would have played it like I enjoyed it and it was all in good fun. The Trump White House takes itself far too seriously and is far too thin skinned. Trump is going to order a strategic missile strike on NBC. Wanna-B-Fanboy and Atomic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Yup, been a number of reports about how truly rattled the White House is, about that skit. Including the "insult" of having a actual woman playing Spicer. Of course given Trump's past sexist remarks - no real surprise. The ongoing surprise is how Trump.... who portrays himself as this rough, tough, two-fisted, straight shooting son of a gun......actually has skin like used onion paper - the slightest criticism, of any kind..... sends him directly to his Twitter, crying like a 10 year old..... Brandon Blue&Gold, Wanna-B-Fanboy and The Unknown Poster 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 On 2/5/2017 at 2:32 PM, wanna-b-fanboy said: I don't like to post consecutively multiple times, but this is really brilliant: SNL Spicer skit This may have been the funniest, most biting, most accurate skit on SNL for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 minute ago, tracker said: This may have been the funniest, most biting, most accurate skit on SNL for years. I was almost in tears... it was so awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 About two weeks before Trump was sworn into office, a bipartisan committee met for a CIA briefing regarding Trump and Putin/Russia involvement in the election and possible influence over Trump's presidency. The meeting was "sub rosa" and all the attendees had to swear to keep secret the content. One Democratic congressman came out and said that he could not discuss the infromation but he was "shaken" and wanted an investigation but was voted down by the Republican members of the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 And just to confirm what most already know: http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/kfile-gorka-on-fake-news/index.html Quote WH official: We'll say 'fake news' until media realizes attitude of attacking the President is wrong (CNN)Sebastian Gorka, deputy assistant to President Donald Trump, said Monday that the administration will continue using the term "fake news" until the media understands that their "monumental desire" to attack the President is wrong. "There is a monumental desire on behalf of the majority of the media, not just the pollsters, the majority of the media to attack a duly elected President in the second week of his term," Gorka, a former Breitbart editor who also holds a PhD in political science, told syndicated conservative radio host Michael Medved. "That's how unhealthy the situation is and until the media understands how wrong that attitude is, and how it hurts their credibility, we are going to continue to say, 'fake news.' I'm sorry, Michael. That's the reality," he added. This is so frightening - I hope there is going to be litigation action every time they claim fake news when in fact it is not. Sue the shit out of the Administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 With Bannon and these other Breitbart flunkys.....could expect nothing else. If you have ever glanced at Breitbart News, online.....then you already know what you need to know..... Scary, indeed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 And Trump has said he would consider publishing the names of every undocumented alien who commits a crime. Why not- it worked for Hitler scapegoating the Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) Sean Spicer's WHOIS data is public for everyone to see. http://mashable.com/2017/02/07/sean-spicer-who-is Edited February 7, 2017 by FrostyWinnipeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: This is so frightening - I hope there is going to be litigation action every time they claim fake news when in fact it is not. Sue the shit out of the Administration. That's a slippery slope though because it would then allow the Administration to sue the shit out of the media every time they post blatant lies. Trump gives up enough fodder on a daily basis to report the straight goods, but that hasn't been good enough for some over-zealous Trump-hating reporters out there. Every time someone like Josh Rogin of the Washington Post goes over the line it just legitimizes Trump's claims about fake news, and then he just tars everyone with the same brush. The "real" news gets lost in the shuffle. This may actually be a strategy of the Trump team, but it's a shame that so many in the media are falling into the trap. http://www.dailywire.com/news/13176/list-washington-posts-josh-rogin-has-big-fake-news-john-nolte JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said: That's a slippery slope though because it would then allow the Administration to sue the shit out of the media every time they post blatant lies. If they are blatant lies, so be it. Thi sadministration needs to stop it's dangerous attack on the 4th estate and the people better start demanding they stop or else there will be very little in the way of holding thi sadministration accountable. Edited February 8, 2017 by wanna-b-fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 This is a prime example of what is wrong with the republican party. The frightening aspect of all this... The Republicans control 3/3 branches of the Government. I weep for our neighbours to the south. http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/sean-duffy-white-terrorism-cnntv/index.html Quote Duffy: 'There's a difference' on white terror and Muslim terror (CNN)Rep. Sean Duffy said Tuesday "there is a difference" between terror acts by white people and those committed by Muslims. CNN's Alisyn Camerota asked on "New Day" about President Donald Trump's recent immigration and travel ban, which was aimed at fighting threats of radical Islam. "Why isn't the President talking about the white terrorists who mowed down six Muslims praying at their mosque," she asked. "I don't know," the Wisconsin Republican replied, referencing the mass shooting at a mosque in Quebec City last month. "There's a difference." "You don't have a group like ISIS or al Qaeda that is inspiring people around the world to take up arms and kill innocents. ... That was a one off, Alisyn," Duffy added. Camerota mentioned 1995's Oklahoma City bombing before asking if the Trump surrogate believed that white terrorists exist. But Duffy said those incidents do not compare. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 From The Hill: Quote The Trump administration will continue to use the term "fake news" to push back on what Sebastian Gorka, a deputy assistant to President Trump, described as media outlets' "monumental desire" to "attack a duly elected president." "There is a monumental desire on behalf of the majority of the media — not just the pollsters — the majority of the media to attack a duly elected president in the second week of his term," Gorka told conservative radio host Michael Medved, whose show is syndicated across the country. "That's how unhealthy the situation is, and until the media understands how wrong that attitude is, and how it hurts their credibility, we are going to continue to say 'fake news.' " The rest of the article is here: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/318286-trump-adviser-admin-will-continue-to-say-fake-news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Its interesting that Kellyann went on CNN and said CNN was *not* fake news. Almost like she's distancing herself. These people must realise how absurd they all look and its killing their credibility. Wouldnt surprise me to hear of some sort of internal intervention where certain senior people demand Trump get off of twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: Its interesting that Kellyann went on CNN and said CNN was *not* fake news. Almost like she's distancing herself. Nope. Just give it a little time, she will once again denounce CNN as fake news. Then walk it back, For some reason, this administration is able to play both sides of every issue: the lie and then walk it back to gain a bit of credibility... Lie again, walk it back to gain a bit of credibility. rinse and repeat. It's designed to cloud the subject matter and not have any real consensus on anything- if no one knows what's going on, it is easier to create your own narrative/reality. The Great Gaslighting of USA is going on- and it is going to be compelling to watch it unfold... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Nope. Just give it a little time, she will once again denounce CNN as fake news. Then walk it back, For some reason, this administration is able to play both sides of every issue: the lie and then walk it back to gain a bit of credibility... Lie again, walk it back to gain a bit of credibility. rinse and repeat. It's designed to cloud the subject matter and not have any real consensus on anything- if no one knows what's going on, it is easier to create your own narrative/reality. The Great Gaslighting of USA is going on- and it is going to be compelling to watch it unfold... True. Kellyann is very very good at pivots and walking back. But she's losing credibility. They are all coming across as liars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Just now, The Unknown Poster said: True. Kellyann is very very good at pivots and walking back. But she's losing credibility. They are all coming across as liars. I don't really recall when she had any credibility and they have been liars for... ****, as far as I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: I don't really recall when she had any credibility and they have been liars for... ****, as far as I can remember. Well she was the one that would be sent out after Trump said stupid things to "clarify". I think the media treated her with respect and credibility throughout the campaign. She is a master at this. She comes across very nice and professional. But she has lost credibility. Especially since the made up Bowling Green Massacre nonsense. She's finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 It's all about undermining the media. If they cast enough doubt, no one will believe anything the media says. Also, by legitimizing fake news sites like Brietbart and Alex Jones, they're further eroding media. As KBF said, the mainstream media is also doing it to themselves by allowing questionable "reporting" to come out of their organizations. It plays right into their hands. Eventually, people won't know what to believe, at which point, the administration becomes the only voice. They already speak directly to the public via social media, reporting whatever and however they want. kelownabomberfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, JCon said: It's all about undermining the media. If they cast enough doubt, no one will believe anything the media says. Also, by legitimizing fake news sites like Brietbart and Alex Jones, they're further eroding media. As KBF said, the mainstream media is also doing it to themselves by allowing questionable "reporting" to come out of their organizations. It plays right into their hands. Eventually, people won't know what to believe, at which point, the administration becomes the only voice. They already speak directly to the public via social media, reporting whatever and however they want. Yeah but Im not sure thats sustainable. its preaching to the choir. Because everytime Trump tweets, there are far more tweets ripping him for it. And they range from reasonable and true to crazy and aggressive. But ultimately, the words get lost in the noise. Trump-ites will filter out the opposition but everyone else wont. So Trump will only be speaking to his people. If thats enough to sustain him then its a good strategy but I dont think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said: Yeah but Im not sure thats sustainable. its preaching to the choir. Because everytime Trump tweets, there are far more tweets ripping him for it. And they range from reasonable and true to crazy and aggressive. But ultimately, the words get lost in the noise. Trump-ites will filter out the opposition but everyone else wont. So Trump will only be speaking to his people. If thats enough to sustain him then its a good strategy but I dont think it is. But it's the noise that dilutes the impact of the media. If everyone is talking, no one is listening. And, how can you possibly believe everything you read on social media or in the media, right? One the most poignant things I read was about the impact on youth. If Twitter and Facebook are filled with the non-stop political discourse that's been going for the past year, the youth are likely to leave and go to Snapchat and Instagram. It's just too overwhelming. Once they're not engaged, they're less likely to vote and affect change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, JCon said: But it's the noise that dilutes the impact of the media. If everyone is talking, no one is listening. And, how can you possibly believe everything you read on social media or in the media, right? One the most poignant things I read was about the impact on youth. If Twitter and Facebook are filled with the non-stop political discourse that's been going for the past year, the youth are likely to leave and go to Snapchat and Instagram. It's just too overwhelming. Once they're not engaged, they're less likely to vote and affect change. http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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