Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

17 hours ago, bustamente said:

My final word on Trump the president, he tried to divide and succeeded, he didn't want to continue doing the job that was needed by the POTUS but he needed it's protections and wanted to be a King, tomorrow he leaves in disgrace with none of the class of defeated presidents of the past to be investigated for the rest of his miserable life, taking a long walk of a short pier and disappearing is to much to ask for but for the sake of America his crimes and those of all his enablers and those that protected him need to be investigated, Pence, McConnell, Barr, Blanche and little Hitler are at the top of the list followed by Kushner, Mnuchin, McLiar, McCarthy, Meadows and Pompeo, then the healing can begin

 

Correct.
Unity, eventually.   But first...accountability.  

Amazing how the scum, has floated right to the top of the pond, in the GOP.   Abject criminals aided and abetted by moral cowards.  Encouraging and enabling and eventually having their party being taken over by the Orange Cult - despite knowing about its underlying elements of racists, insurrectionists, fascists,.......and of course,  Donald Trump's total lack of morals and integrity.  

If Biden wants to stay above the fray - fine.   As long as any and every legitimate avenue into investigating all these cretins, is carried out relentlessly - no matter how long it takes. 

I feel quite a bit of relief that the most unstable, unqualified moron to ever hold the office of the President no longer has the codes to launch a nuclear strike. The world is a safer place now than it was an hour ago. 

 

I kinda want to see Trump start his own political party to be honest. He's got enough brainwashed followers it would kick the anthill good and it would be amusing to see the ants scurry around.

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

I kinda want to see Trump start his own political party to be honest. He's got enough brainwashed followers it would kick the anthill good and it would be amusing to see the ants scurry around.

To say nothing about what it would do the the Republican vote base, going forward...

Just now, 17to85 said:

I kinda want to see Trump start his own political party to be honest. He's got enough brainwashed followers it would kick the anthill good and it would be amusing to see the ants scurry around.

Won't work. Americans can't handle anything more than two parties, which is why it's so entrenched in the political system. No one will give him money to start a party. I bet he and his fellows dimwits just continue to cause chaos within the GOP. 

Trump first follower of his new party

 

 

TRUMP GONE, MANY TIMES THANKYOU!

when obama was elected, his cabinet appointments were industry hacks, from banking, insurance, oil....

I thought he could direct them, but I was wrong. Obama was for the most part a timid industry friendly war loving failure.

Biden has made appointments that are being praised, by people who want reform, so, bernie, also, appointed a liz warren supporter in consumer affairs, the energy and interior same thing.

also heard nancy saying some things about trump that surprised me.  Biden may not initiate investigations, but he wont be stopping or interfering in any.

so I think the Democrats have seen how close they have pushed things to the edge of no return, and are actually going to do good things.

probably a good time to sell your oilco stock if you have any.

 

35 minutes ago, JCon said:

Won't work. Americans can't handle anything more than two parties

more than two parties is not a solution, first past the post is the real problem. and there is a solution for it, proportional representation which pols in canada, for some reason are reluctant to enact.

isrrael for imstance, has many parties, and the same creep has been in power for many years.

Edited January 20, 20215 yr by Mark F

48 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Trump first follower of his new party

 

10 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Fine, he can go down to Florida, meet his God, and then stop at the Everglades.....and search for the Krarken.

1 hour ago, JCon said:

Won't work. Americans can't handle anything more than two parties, which is why it's so entrenched in the political system. No one will give him money to start a party. I bet he and his fellows dimwits just continue to cause chaos within the GOP. 

Grifters going to grift.

Trump (if he can find the time) probably would not run again in any case,.    What he can do is take revenge against anyone who broke from the cult and deprived him of his election "win"
Aids have already indicated that Trump is compiling his list of folks, that his cultists will understand as "enemies of the people"  (check Internet comments even now)
Trump has a 250M Superpac and plenty of clones, who will support (or not support) whoever he says.....

As well, having a 30% or so "Trump rump" vote bloc ....could spell total disaster for the GOP, going forward.   Donald has already done his best to destroy democratic traditions, norms and institutions - he would certainly have no problem destroying the Republican party out sheer spite......

The total irony..... is that the one thing that could save the GOP, would be having Donald locked up and/or bankrupted.....by actual entities of "law and order"

 

Americans sure love their pomp and circumstance, lets get to the investigations.

Washington Post counts 30,573 false or misleading claims in four years by Trump
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/535081-wapost-counts-30573-false-or-misleading-claims-in-four-years-by-trump

Is that all?

 

10 minutes ago, do or die said:

Washington Post counts 30,573 false or misleading claims in four years by Trump
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/535081-wapost-counts-30573-false-or-misleading-claims-in-four-years-by-trump

Is that all?

 

clearly lowballed .

Republican says 'classified briefings' revealed that the Capitol riot was 'much worse than people realized'
   
Rep. John Katko (R-N.Y.), the first Republican lawmaker to publicly support efforts to impeach former President Donald Trump, is speaking out about the deadly Capitol riots that erupted on Jan. 6 as lawmakers worked to complete the Electoral College certification.

Although the American public watched in shock and dismay as the disturbing series of events unfolded, Katko insists the riots were far worse than reported on television. During an interview with Syracuse.com, Katko shared details about the day of the deadly U.S. Capitol riots.

While he could not offer specific details about the classified briefings he has received, he did reveal that the incident was far worse than reported.

"I've had a lot of classified briefings on it, and it's deeply troubling," Katko told Syracuse.com. "I was left with a profound sense that it was much worse than people realized."

He went on to stress the importance of taking a full objective look at the situation, how the series of events unfolded, and who else should be held accountable.

Republican says 'classified briefings' revealed that the Capitol riot was 'much worse than people realized' - Alternet.org

1 hour ago, do or die said:

Washington Post counts 30,573 false or misleading claims in four years by Trump
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/535081-wapost-counts-30573-false-or-misleading-claims-in-four-years-by-trump

Is that all?

 

Now is that different lies, or are they counting the same lie repeated again and again as multiple lies?

4 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Now is that different lies, or are they counting the same lie repeated again and again as multiple lies?

Probably includes the repeated lies like being man of the year in Michigan and Veteran's Choice, etc. 

More parting gifts for the suckers known as the American taxpayers as if all the golf was not enough, luckily Biden can reverse this executive order and he should as soon as possible, free ride is over

 

 

Edited January 20, 20215 yr by bustamente

Yeah, this looks about right.

 

 

New White House press secretary Jen Psaki, talking about her respect for a free press, and bringing back truth and transparency to the briefing process. 

Boring.....

Have a feeling business around here is going to slow down to a trickle, damn that Trump

59 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Have a feeling business around here is going to slow down to a trickle, damn that Trump

Trump's looming legal nightmares ought to provide lots of grist for the mill for months, if not years to come, if that can be considered US politics. And then there are all of his toadies.....

I still believe Trump was a symptom not the disease. ( A bloody awful symptom ) There are root causes in that country that put a corrupt, sociopath, egomaniac in office. I actually hope and believe Biden might be the right guy at the right time. There is an awful lot of healing and knitting to be done to bring that country back from the brink of something ugly. Hopefully today is the start of something. I worry about his age but maybe that age will be a aid. We live far to close and have far to many connections to want to see the next step after the riot. I wish President Biden all the best.