Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

4 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Speed flex was going off about the military in the streets enforcing laws and restricting our civil liberties. Well, I’d welcome that a whole lot more than seeing civilians parading around with assault rifles prepared to enforce their personal rights over the rights of society at large. 

And remember which political wing has historically used force to enforce dictates. Hint: it ain't socialists.

All that's missing is a red nose and rainbow hair

 

7 hours ago, bustamente said:

All that's missing is a red nose and rainbow hair

 

Either he's lying (he's always lying) or he literally cant remember that he held a rally last month.  Does he even know what day it is?

https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/trump-plans-to-extort-states-into-reopening-as-mitch-mcconnell-holds-up-aid-report/

Trump plans to extort states into reopening as Mitch McConnell holds up aid: report

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/atlanta-rages-as-georgia-gov-kemp-eases-covid-19-lockdown?ref=home

‘Mortified and Appalled’: Atlanta Rages as Governor Eases Lockdown

One resident chalked Georgia’s plan to reopen the state from COVID-19 shutdown up to “absolutely nothing but greed and the desire to kiss the president’s ass.”

2 hours ago, Tracker said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/atlanta-rages-as-georgia-gov-kemp-eases-covid-19-lockdown?ref=home

‘Mortified and Appalled’: Atlanta Rages as Governor Eases Lockdown

One resident chalked Georgia’s plan to reopen the state from COVID-19 shutdown up to “absolutely nothing but greed and the desire to kiss the president’s ass.”

Stacey Abrams looking like a real missed opportunity now.... 

Trump can rant all he wants, but testing still the critical (and criticized) issue moving forward:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-testing-hampered-by-disarray-shortages-backlogs-11587328441

 

Is there still a doubt somewhere ?

 

Trump Favorite Is Under Investigation—and Getting Big Bucks to Build the Wall

Last Wednesday, while the country strained under a nationwide lockdown, Lt. General Semonite’s corps found time to award another border-wall contract to a company Trump personally championed—even as it’s under investigation by the Defense Department inspector general. Specifically, Fisher on Apr. 15 got $7,633,085 to build a mere “800 linear feet” of bollard barrier—that slatted design Trump favors—for the wall in Yuma, Ariz.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-favorite-is-under-investigationand-getting-big-bucks-to-build-the-wall?ref=home

On 2020-04-20 at 3:50 PM, The Unknown Poster said:

Just lies lies and more lies.  The reason Im confident is because all Trump can do is play to his base.  His only hope to win re-election is self inflicted wounds by the Dems.  Sadly, that is always possible.

Their last loss was self - inflicted; at this point, I have no reason to believe it won't happen again.  We know several Americans who come up here to ice fish every year - they are reasonable and intelligent people.  They don't want to vote for Trump, and they don't like the alternatives, so they probably won't vote at all.  

3 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Their last loss was self - inflicted; at this point, I have no reason to believe it won't happen again.  We know several Americans who come up here to ice fish every year - they are reasonable and intelligent people.  They don't want to vote for Trump, and they don't like the alternatives, so they probably won't vote at all.  

That infuriates me.

2 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Their last loss was self - inflicted; at this point, I have no reason to believe it won't happen again.  We know several Americans who come up here to ice fish every year - they are reasonable and intelligent people.  They don't want to vote for Trump, and they don't like the alternatives, so they probably won't vote at all.  

Thats true.  Capturing those "wont vote" people is important.  There will likely be little to no protest vote AGAINST the Dems (everyone who is an alt right person would vote for Trump anyway.  Its those center-right that have voted conservative their whole life who dislike Trump but cant bring themselves to vote for a Dem that need to be captured.  Hopefully they can do it.  Plus, energizing the left, many of whom may not usually vote if they feel their vote doesnt matter.  It will matter this year.

And just wait...Biden will be up in the days preceding the election and the talk will shift to "stop saying Biden will win..." as some people dont go to the effort of voting if they assume their guy will win (and I have no doubt the government will make it as difficult as possible for people to vote).

Seriously nobody know stupid better than Trump

 

Mr nobody, or rather, knowbody. 
He knows more about immorality than anybody..that’s for sure.

3 hours ago, bustamente said:

Seriously nobody know stupid better than Trump

 

This is suffocating to watch.

13 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

This is suffocating to watch.

The though that some people, still even believe in anything that comes out of his mouth.....is simply mind boggling.

The only thing he knows better than anyone is not paying your debts.

53 minutes ago, do or die said:

The though that some people, still even believe in anything that comes out of his mouth.....is simply mind boggling.

As I've said before, the most infuriating thing to me with this guy are the intelligent people who remain undecided on whether they would support him or not. Not the zealots, not the "I'd vote for him no matter what' type people, it's the the intelligent ones that have shone they critically think. That's beyond mindboggling and maybe I've overestimated them somehow, maybe he is truly showing some peoples real colours we have never seen before. This has NOTHING to do with differing political ideologies, differing policy positions, stances on socialism versus capitalism, health and crime issues etc. I wouldn't want him coaching my sons football team, not because he may see sfootball differently than some others, it's because I would fear for my son's and his teammates safety and wellbeing along with the other teams and their fans, along with all the referees , all the football officials, media, anyone who comes in constant contact with him.  I work in the area of leadership and team development, I don't pretend to know everything  and I'm always learning more about human beings and how they operate and thus far everything I've come to learn and experience shows that if you do everything opposite of what he does, all will be good.

On 2020-04-21 at 9:28 AM, Tracker said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/atlanta-rages-as-georgia-gov-kemp-eases-covid-19-lockdown?ref=home

‘Mortified and Appalled’: Atlanta Rages as Governor Eases Lockdown

One resident chalked Georgia’s plan to reopen the state from COVID-19 shutdown up to “absolutely nothing but greed and the desire to kiss the president’s ass.”

 

 

Worth a read.

 

 

Some context for the above post:

 

 

2 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

 I don't pretend to know everything  and I'm always learning more about human beings and how they operate and thus far everything I've come to learn and experience shows that if you do everything opposite of what he does, all will be good.

Narcissists make horrible leaders. Good leaders actually value quality people around them because they have that confidence to let others lift them up.

If you are horrified by all this crap, I regret to inform you that you ain't seen nuthin' yet. Trump's rabid base is about 100 million people. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Worth a read.

 

 

 

Forget the lies Trump spews, he has decided that his reality is the only one that matters , in his world he doesn't care who dies.