Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

1 hour ago, bustamente said:

Guiliani must be off his meds and now will say anything for a sound bite

Nah it's just that the republican party is a cult and they all have to rally to save face and convince their base to pay no attention to the facts, libs are evil!

So Trump really doesn't want to attend the G7 meeting in Quebec, golfing and winging it in meetings with the NK's more important.

I guess JT isn’t kissing the ring. 

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Three manufacturing companies in Arkansas say they need an exemption from the Commerce Department from President Trump's new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports or they will be forced to close.

Arkansas Online reports that three tire-cord manufacturers, Bekaert Corp., Kiswire America and Tokusen USA, have jointly requested an exemption from Trump's tariffs, specifically on "grade 1078 and above wire rod for tire cord." The three companies argue that U.S.-based steel producers are unable to manufacture the quality their company needs.

"Stated simply, U.S. wire rod producers are incapable of producing grade 1078 and above wire rod to produce tire cord because that grade of wire rod must be produced in basic oxygen furnaces to achieve the strength, cleanliness and other properties to draw the wire rod to tire cord dimensions," lawyers for the three companies told Arkansas Online.

 

 

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1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I guess JT isn’t kissing the ring. 

It doesn't seem like any self-respecting world leader is. And rightfully so.

5 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Nah it's just that the republican party is a cult and they all have to rally to save face and convince their base to pay no attention to the facts, libs are evil!

Guiliani is centrist . A liberal early on in his political career and like most New York republicans he hugs the center for dear life in the hoped to get some vote crumbs from liberal NYC in a presidential primary or governors race or mayorship.

He won the mayorship because he vowed to and was succesful in cleaning up the appaling crime rate as white liberals were afraid to go to Central Park or send their nannies out to playgrounds and opened up Times Square for re development and got rid of the porn theatres and dives. Rich liberals love their shows and restaraunts

Apart from that he was nearly indistinguishable from a centrist Democrat.

He was also indistinguishable from other business as usual Republicans against Trump in the presidential primary and got run over with the rest of them as a result.

Hes stuck his finger in the air and realizes the old republican party is dead and being transformed by Trump and chose accordingly.

 

Edited June 8, 20187 yr by Zontar

10 hours ago, Zontar said:

Guiliani is centrist . A liberal early on in his political career and like most New York republicans he hugs the center for dear life in the hoped to get some vote crumbs from liberal NYC in a presidential primary or governors race or mayorship.

He won the mayorship because he vowed to and was succesful in cleaning up the appaling crime rate as white liberals were afraid to go to Central Park or send their nannies out to playgrounds and opened up Times Square for re development and got rid of the porn theatres and dives. Rich liberals love their shows and restaraunts

Apart from that he was nearly indistinguishable from a centrist Democrat.

He was also indistinguishable from other business as usual Republicans against Trump in the presidential primary and got run over with the rest of them as a result.

Hes stuck his finger in the air and realizes the old republican party is dead and being transformed by Trump and chose accordingly.

 

Whatever Rudy was, he isnt anymore.  His remarks about Daniels show him not to be a liberal.  All he is now is a shameless Trump shill.

10 hours ago, Zontar said:

Guiliani is centrist . A liberal early on in his political career and like most New York republicans he hugs the center for dear life in the hoped to get some vote crumbs from liberal NYC in a presidential primary or governors race or mayorship.

He won the mayorship because he vowed to and was succesful in cleaning up the appaling crime rate as white liberals were afraid to go to Central Park or send their nannies out to playgrounds and opened up Times Square for re development and got rid of the porn theatres and dives. Rich liberals love their shows and restaraunts

Apart from that he was nearly indistinguishable from a centrist Democrat.

He was also indistinguishable from other business as usual Republicans against Trump in the presidential primary and got run over with the rest of them as a result.

Hes stuck his finger in the air and realizes the old republican party is dead and being transformed by Trump and chose accordingly.

 

Yeah but I didn't talk about left and right, I talked about Republicans. Left and right have lost all meaning in the states these days, it's team Republican vs. team Democrat. 

13 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I guess JT isn’t kissing the ring. 

Guess he can always just subsidize those farmers more. Perhaps if they weren't artificially propping up the industry they wouldn't have an excess of product and nowhere to sell it. 

11 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Guess he can always just subsidize those farmers more. Perhaps if they weren't artificially propping up the industry they wouldn't have an excess of product and nowhere to sell it. 

A lot of the people crossing into the USA from Mexico, central america are farmers who lost their farms due to USA dumping subsidized corn into their countries post/under NAFTA. Mexico was self sufficient pre Nafta, now has to buy corn to feed its population.

stupid deal for both sides, cause the Americans are draining their aquifers and rivers dry, to produce subsidized corn, to sell outside USA. Irrigated corn, for a thousand miles down there. They grow it in the desert lol.

 

33 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

Oh Thank God! a trump pardon would have tarnished Ali's legacy...

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Whatever Rudy was, he isnt anymore.  His remarks about Daniels show him not to be a liberal.  All he is now is a shameless Trump shill.

Like I said as a career move he knows which way the wind blows in the party now. The days of business as usual and ignoring the people that voted you in are over. The party isnt going back to the way it was before Trump. 

Get on board or get run over.

16 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Like I said as a career move he knows which way the wind blows in the party now. The days of business as usual and ignoring the people that voted you in are over. The party isnt going back to the way it was before Trump. 

Get on board or get run over.

Rudy is 74 years old.  A partner in a law firm.  Is worth $45 million.  To suggest he "knows which way the wind is blowing" is hilarious.  He is a Trump acolyte.

And if the GOP allows their party to be co-opted by the alt right white nationalist movement, it will mean the end of Republican President's.

15 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Rudy is 74 years old.  A partner in a law firm.  Is worth $45 million.  To suggest he "knows which way the wind is blowing" is hilarious.  He is a Trump acolyte.

And if the GOP allows their party to be co-opted by the alt right white nationalist movement, it will mean the end of Republican President's.

Silly fear mongering, leftist rhetoric. 

The new party is about listening to the voters who put them there and actually govern as conservatives instead of ignoring them once in power and running shotgun with Democrats in rewarding the globalist, open border multinationals and arms industry.

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2 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Silly fear mongering, leftist rhetoric. 

The new party is about listening to the voters who put them there instead and actually govern as conservatives instead of ignoring them once in power and running shotgun with Democrats in rewarding the globalist, open border multinationals and arms industry.

Ummmm Its about listening to racists.  When did it become cool to openly flaunt your racism?  Yuck.

3 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Silly fear mongering, leftist rhetoric. 

The new party is about listening to the voters who put them there instead and actually govern as conservatives instead of ignoring them once in power and running shotgun with Democrats in rewarding the globalist, open border multinationals and arms industry.

Listening to white supremacist racist nazi lovers worked for Germany.. Oh wait nope. 

4 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Silly fear mongering, leftist rhetoric. 

The new party is about listening to the voters who put them there instead and actually govern as conservatives instead of ignoring them once in power and running shotgun with Democrats in rewarding the globalist, open border multinationals and arms industry.

Are you trolling? Or are you a racist idiot? 

6 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Ummmm Its about listening to racists.  When did it become cool to openly flaunt your racism?  Yuck.

Conservative is now racism. 

 

8 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Ummmm Its about listening to racists.  When did it become cool to openly flaunt your racism?  Yuck.

Yeah, that and wanting to keep your job, not wanting your city turned nto dysfunctional, violent slums, not wanting to  spend money to send your child to re education camps when theyre supposed to be places of higher learning.....

3 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Are you trolling? Or are you a racist idiot? 

Oh man, no need to make it personal- you just let him win. It's exactly what he's trolling to do... He's pulling a Guiliani, so just...

 

1 minute ago, Zontar said:

Conservative is now racism. 

 

Yeah, that and wanting to keep your job, not wanting your city turned nto dysfunctional, violent slums, not wanting to  spend money to send your child to re education camps when theyre supposed to be places of higher learning.....

Nope.  Im a Conservative.  Racism is racism.  Defending white supremacists and nazi's is racism.  Defending racist rhetoric and slurs is racism.

Everyone here can see what you are.  And it's gross.  Are you in the US or is it just the like-mindedness of Trump and his white nationalist base that draws you to so passionately support him?

3 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Conservative is now racism. 

 

Yeah, that and wanting to keep your job, not wanting your city turned nto dysfunctional, violent slums, not wanting to  spend money to send your child to re education camps when theyre supposed to be places of higher learning.....

Wait, did you just admit to being a racist?

2 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Oh man, no need to make it personal- you just let him win. It's exactly what he's trolling to do... He's pulling a Guiliani, so just...

 

Nah, its pretty clear what he is.  if he's going to be welcome here, people should be able to call it as it is.  I suppose you could cut the "idiot" part but if someone IS a racist, doesn't the term apply?

Zontar is a racist. 

Being open to different views is one thing.  Supporting freedom of expression is one thing.  But freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence.

In my humble opinion, it's time to shut down the racist, mods.

I wont speak for others, but that's MY view.

10 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Nope.  Im a Conservative. 

No , youre not.

You ignore the reasons Trump governs the way he does and the desires of the people who put him there. You then go back to the same old leftist manual for instructions when you cant score points against an opponent. "Shut up, youre racist" etc.