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Agreed but I also think there has been positions where there was little to no competition in camp over the last few years.   O-line is one of those areas, especially at the import OLine spot(s).  Mack seemed to love bringing in receivers, D-Linemen, and somewhat DBs.  And I think he was successful bringing in talent in those positions (receiver is hard to gauge with lack of quality QBs throwing to them)
 
Lack of competition at OLine, kick returner, and some years linebacker (do like some of the additions from this year) have come back to bite us.
 
QBs is a different story.  Can't deny he tried with bringing in new options, just haven't had much success.  Whether or not that is entirely on the talent brought in or the schemes from the coaches, will never know exactly the cause.  I don't think many non-CFL vets would be successful in the offense we ran over the last couple of years, but that also doesn't mean that the QBs brought in were good.  They just really weren't given much of a chance to succeed to find out.

I'd reply, but then you would undoubtedly whine about how I'm being unfair as a "person of authority" on this website, so I will just let the idea of a grown man using that "insult" speak for itself.
 

Makes no sense.
 
There is no such thing as a "permanent" position. You have to let them make moves. To suggest otherwise is foolish.

C'mon iso, let this one go. 
This is a different situation than many and whereby sometimes your scenario may play out, these guys are on the same page and aren't going to marry off someone's daughter without permission.
What are you worried about? That they'll trade Etienne for Jabori Arthur or something?
They don't have to be permanent to be effective, but if they're effective they may become permanent.

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Burke is still trying to blame lack of performance on being rookie laden. Seems to me Hamilton's defence is a heck of a lot better than last year with lots of new personnel.
 
The sooner he goes the happier I'll be...
 
http://bluebombers.com/video/index/id/90859

Here's the thing about Burke and his complaints regarding a lack of talent.
 
Similar talent was at least competitive under LaPolice. We may not have won a ton of games, but at least we felt like we had a chance to win. I watch this team now and all I can think is that they have absolutely no chance. Given that these are professional athletes competing against other professional athletes, you'd think we could at least put up somewhat of a fight.
 
To me, the main issue with this team is coaching. Top to bottom, they are doing absolutely nothing to improve the skillset of our roster. I can count on one hand the number of players we've had during the Delmonaco/Howell/Burke regime who have improved under their watch. Most of our imports seem to get worse the more they work with our coaches. Matthews came here and lit the world on fire, now he can't catch. Denmark was a ROY candidate, now he's a spare part who struggles to get open. Simpson played on instinct last year and seemed dominant at times, but struggled this year with our new offensive schemes. Our defensive backs, aside from Washington, seem to be getting worse. Ian Wild and Desia Dunn both debuted incredibly strong and now look mediocre (maybe a byproduct of our entire defense) ... in two years, they couldn't teach Alex Hall how to time his break well enough to avoid going offside. Mike Sims-Walker was highly touted enough to get his own press conference as a CFL rookie when he came here and now he can't even crack the lineup because Howell can't get through to him on the waggle. And don't even get me started on what our quarterbacks are doing in their development.
 
It's ridiculous. Our coaching is garbage. Talent level may be on the lower end but they could still produce a LOT better with some average coaches.

The problem is that he shouldn't be saying any of this.  What kind of coach makes these kinds of excuses?  Even if it's true, it is unprofessional and it does have an effect on the team as well.  Can you imagine Marc Trestman or Corey Chamblin making the excuse that they didn't have enough talent to work with?  No chance, because they are smart and understand that the responsibility ultimately falls on them.  Burke is passing the buck to the organization, the GM, and the players, but never has a damn thing to say about what he did wrong himself.

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Key word bolded. Lapo wasn't a great coach, I don't think he was even a good coach truthfully but he kept that team competitive, with Burke in charge the team rolls over and dies each week. 

"B/c that's what had to be done to get Neufeld", said a guy with a grasp of the obvious.

Hmmmmm Hall:  will play out the season, going to leave immediately after,  Bombers have proven to have reasonable depth on the DL
Neufeld: Canadian, OL (our OL is GOD AWFUL), not sure the length of his contract but at least a season left.  Bombers CLEARLY need this over another DL for the remainder of one of the most piss poor seasons in recent memory. 
 
The second for fourth makes up for the gaping discrepancies in the type of player and their contracts, plain and simple.
 
"It's not about Neufeld" is just ridiculous.  HE'S ONE OF TWO PLAYERS IN THE TRADE, ffs.  

Wow.  So many people don't get it.  
 
Who gives a damn that he would have gone to Ottawa?  He wouldn't have come here. 
 
Must we make list of all the failed 2nd rounders in the past?  Straight away he's a "safer" bet than those guys to play right away.
 
Most people here have praised Walters for his knowledge of CIS football and Canadian talent - and now there's a bunch of experts crying out now?  Just seemed stupid to me.

oh the outcry of the armchair GMS.. the anguish and the rage..
a guy who is 24 and locked up for 3 years who can play tackle and maybe other spots on the line with a bit of footwork training... seems to me that in itself is normally a player picked in the second round IF your lucky and IF the player isnt a bust...
so we took the gamble out of drafting one oline prospect.. cost was the services of the league leading sack master for a few games and got a 4th rounder down the road...
i simply dont get the outrage.. hall is as good as gone and i think he sticks for a season down south.. and like mentioned before, whos to say we dont get him back if our fortunes have changed by then?
and if this is all about that second round pick then like i said before, we would be lucky to draft a kid like neufeld at that pick (regardless that he went in the 5th) and hes ahead of.the curve with all those games played..

Take Hall out of the equation for a minute.
 
It's our second pick in 2014 for Neufeld and their pick in 2015.
Should we do that deal?
I would say so.
 
Trade deadline is Wed.
Hall would have no trade value for us as of then.
 
This reminds me of another GM who traded a body before Free Agency last Jan. 29 to get something of value.
 
Sask. benefits, but so do we.

Lots of people having a strange reaction to this trade in all honesty.
 
First of all, no big surprise that Hall didn't have the value some thought he did. He's got no term left and he's made it pretty clear that he wants to try the NFL. Not only is he a rental, I'd be surprised if Saskatchewan could afford the pay day it'd take to resign him. I think he's back in the CFL next year but I don't think it's with the Riders.
 
Neufeld isn't a terrible offensive lineman but he certainly does suck at guard and as odd as it sounds, we suddenly have a mediocre logjam of NI talent at right tackle. Hopefully Pencer translates to guard. This probably means we don't protect Swiston from Ottawa now.
 
Reasons the draft pick means very little to me ... this is a pretty thin draft with the new eligibility rules so trading out of 2014 and into 2015 works for me. Not a huge fan of the two round drop but to me, that's what you pay for getting a 24 year old NI lineman who is signed through 2015.

Don't mind this trade at all.
 
Am I disappointed that our most dynamic player on defense has been traded?  Yes.  Am I glad that we managed to get something for a guy who was clearly on his way out of Bomberland?  Absolutely.   We acquired a non-import offensive lineman .. who is under contract for the next couple of years.  As people like to point out, the draft is a crap shoot and we've essentially eliminated some of the guess work in getting a player with a decent body of work at the next level.  He's not a rookie.  He's not making the jump to the pros.  We're not developing a project.  We're getting a young player who is only going to get stronger (over the off season and as he puts more distance between himself and his injury).   We did all that for a second round draft pick and a free agent import with NFL aspirations.   Oh .. we also nabbed a 4th rounder in a subsequent year ..
 
Not a bad day at the office.

Highly unlikely the Bombers had much leverage.  Whole league knew Hall is going to the NFL.

One more thing:  Walters strikes me as someone who "gets it."  Despite what will be the typical "still trying to win" tagline from the Bombers, Walters realized that he'd rather be 2-16 with Neufeld added than 2-16 and losing Hall for nothing.

Apparently I'm in the minority but I think Walters did pretty darn good for this one.  Hall was a goner - and the rest of the league knew it.  Giving up the second rounder sucks, but they clearly think this linemen is at least decent.  
 
Walters got value (Neufeld) for very little (essentially a second round pick).

Really!   Adam Rita hasn't been a GM since 2010,  Higgins not since 2008 and the others are non starters. 
 
Higgins would be the only one on the list that I would even give an interview to.   If we're going to look at any current AGM, then we have to give the same consideration to Walters.       

Sure it's easy to throw out a bunch of names. But Would you really want any of these guys? I'd rather stick with Walters over any of those washed up GM's.
There are a few AGM's out there but still unproven when it comes to running a team on their own.

So that's why some of your posts have been about incorrect rumors lately