SpeedFlex27

J5V, I've been reading your posts about Mike O'Shea. The simple truth of the matter is that you just don't fire a head coach who took a team from 6-12 to 11-7 in a single season & the WDSF then toss him. It just isn't done. The Bombers organization would look like a Ship Of Fools if they did that. Certainly it'd be sending out a lot of negative vibes to all the other coaches in the CFL about the state of the team, the people who run it & the kind of business they'd be doing. It would make no sense. Who'd want to come here knowing that being 2 games over .500 & making the playoffs isn't good enough to keep their job? O'Shea deserves a new contract. The guy's earned it. Other than Marc Trestman who would you want as head coach? Start naming names instead of using vague terms like, "Bring in an experienced coach". Who? Experience doesn't mean anything. Don Matthews went 0-9 in Toronto when he was given the Argos HC job in the middle of the season. George Cortez was a very good OC & turned out to be a very bad head coach. Both had plenty of experience but it didn't matter. Matthews is the second winningest head coach in the CFL all time with over 200 wins behind Wally Buono. The Bombers won't fire O'Shea & they'd be crazy to do it. He deserves to be here.

J5V, I've been reading your posts about Mike O'Shea. The simple truth of the matter is that you just don't fire a head coach who took a team from 6-12 to 11-7 in a single season & the WDSF then toss him. It just isn't done. The Bombers organization would look like a Ship Of Fools if they did that. Certainly it'd be sending out a lot of negative vibes to all the other coaches in the CFL about the state of the team, the people who run it & the kind of business they'd be doing. It would make no sense. Who'd want to come here knowing that being 2 games over .500 & making the playoffs isn't good enough to keep their job? O'Shea deserves a new contract. The guy's earned it. Other than Marc Trestman who would you want as head coach? Start naming names instead of using vague terms like, "Bring in an experienced coach". Who? Experience doesn't mean anything. Don Matthews went 0-9 in Toronto when he was given the Argos HC job in the middle of the season. George Cortez was a very good OC & turned out to be a very bad head coach. Both had plenty of experience but it didn't matter. Matthews is the second winningest head coach in the CFL all time with over 200 wins behind Wally Buono. The Bombers won't fire O'Shea & they'd be crazy to do it. He deserves to be here.

I really like Marc Trestman. It may have sounded like I didn't but I really do. The CFL needs more guys like him & less of Jason Maas & Chris jones & their shenanigans. I was hoping he'd be back in some capacity with a CFL team like the Argos or the Als. The man is just a class act all around.

I really like Marc Trestman. It may have sounded like I didn't but I really do. The CFL needs more guys like him & less of Jason Maas & Chris jones & their shenanigans. I was hoping he'd be back in some capacity with a CFL team like the Argos or the Als. The man is just a class act all around.

I really like Marc Trestman. It may have sounded like I didn't but I really do. The CFL needs more guys like him & less of Jason Maas & Chris jones & their shenanigans. I was hoping he'd be back in some capacity with a CFL team like the Argos or the Als. The man is just a class act all around.

I really like Marc Trestman. It may have sounded like I didn't but I really do. The CFL needs more guys like him & less of Jason Maas & Chris jones & their shenanigans. I was hoping he'd be back in some capacity with a CFL team like the Argos or the Als. The man is just a class act all around.

I don't care how good the pass catchers are, if the qb is looking at the sky when he throws the ball it doesn't matter. We just went through a very dark era in Blue Bomber history where we had the worst OL for years. Now that we finally put together an OL we can actually win with some fans want to dismantle it to play 5 Ints at receivers? No thanks.  

I don't care how good the pass catchers are, if the qb is looking at the sky when he throws the ball it doesn't matter. We just went through a very dark era in Blue Bomber history where we had the worst OL for years. Now that we finally put together an OL we can actually win with some fans want to dismantle it to play 5 Ints at receivers? No thanks.  

This is a great point... guys follow their leader into battle... this is based on nothing but a hunch, but it didn't seem like guys would follow Willy they way they do with Nichols...

I'd never even consider that the Bombers should have tried a 61 yard FG if the Bombers didn't get the first down. I'd say 99% of the other fans would be the same. That the right play was to kick the FG? Never. Now at 58 yards with the game on the line on the last play of the game then yes it's the only play as it would have had a better chance than a Hail Mary. But not 61 yards with 36 seconds left on a third & four. The only choice was to go for it. Not kick. There's more luck involved than skill on a kick that far.

I did read the whole thing mbrg. Your splitting hairs by saying it isn't preposterous to ask him to kick a 61 yard field goal.
The reality is, asking a guy to kick a 61 yard field goal when there is a better option is not smart football because the odds are not on your side.
The reality is, in the history of the CFL only one man has kicked a field goal more than 60 yards and that was with a wind at Taylor field.
Was it preposterous? Kind of, since it's only been done one time in the history of the CFL.
If there's no time on the clock sure, you take any desperate attempt that you can. But with time left on the clock it's a bad decision to try and kick the second longest field goal in CFL history when all you need is 4 yards for a first down.

Disagree. FGs aren't normally tried from 61 yards so I don't believe the coach would have been questioned if he gambled. Thirty six seconds left on 3rd & 4 you go for it. If you don't make it then okay you tried the most logical & statistically highest percentage attempt which is to gamble & not kick. if this was the last play then yes you try the FG. That wasn't the time to do that. O'Shea should have put more faith in his offense to get that first down,

I'd never even consider that the Bombers should have tried a 61 yard FG if the Bombers didn't get the first down. I'd say 99% of the other fans would be the same. That the right play was to kick the FG? Never. Now at 58 yards with the game on the line on the last play of the game then yes it's the only play as it would have had a better chance than a Hail Mary. But not 61 yards with 36 seconds left on a third & four. The only choice was to go for it. Not kick. There's more luck involved than skill on a kick that far.

Disagree. FGs aren't normally tried from 61 yards so I don't believe the coach would have been questioned if he gambled. Thirty six seconds left on 3rd & 4 you go for it. If you don't make it then okay you tried the most logical & statistically highest percentage attempt which is to gamble & not kick. if this was the last play then yes you try the FG. That wasn't the time to do that. O'Shea should have put more faith in his offense to get that first down,

Disagree. FGs aren't normally tried from 61 yards so I don't believe the coach would have been questioned if he gambled. Thirty six seconds left on 3rd & 4 you go for it. If you don't make it then okay you tried the most logical & statistically highest percentage attempt which is to gamble & not kick. if this was the last play then yes you try the FG. That wasn't the time to do that. O'Shea should have put more faith in his offense to get that first down,

Hamilton should get the GC before the Riders.

I looked at the game log and there was 3 seconds left in that game so they choice would have been
a) have Leone kick a 61 yarder  which is what the Lions did - probably 1% chance of succeeding 
OR
b. throw a hail mary to the end zone - less than one percent chance of succeeding
There was 36 seconds in the Bomber game.  Bomber choices were
a) kick field goal - which they did - again, less than 1% chance of succeeding
b. gamble on third and 4 - probably had 40 - 50% chance of succeeding.  They would have also had time for 2 or 3 more plays had they made it.
 
Please don't attempt to draw comparisons between a nearly impossible field goal attempt with 3 seconds on the clock vs one with 36 seconds on the clock.  It's insulting.  O'shea's decision defied logic.

I...I'm still livid. The worst part is I would love to be pissed at the D right now, but that final call won't let me. I can't even...
Bah!

O'Shea turtled & panicked.  That's how I saw it. He got scared & made the wrong decision.

No. Neither should O'Shea with that dumb decision. I'd have rather lost trying to get the first down than on a 61 yard FG attempt.
 

O'Shea turtled & panicked.  That's how I saw it. He got scared & made the wrong decision.

Campbell? 

Only a few will leave. In the end, they'll stay. 

Yes

Why do people still think he is a free agent when it has been reported by credible sources that he isn't? The CFL needs to publish a free agent list & post it on their website.