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No it makes perfect sense. You just aren't understanding that hard contact football, you know the way it is supposed to be played,  is now politically incorrect. We have the mamby pamby media, politicians, and alarmists running around telling us how a beautifully executed text book hit like Loffler's should be eliminated from the game. Mamby pambies.
I have little doubt that even though my opinion is correct from a football purist point of view, that many on here will strongly disagree with me and take issue with it. Why/ Not because they could give 2 figs about Arceneaux's melon....it's because the other night they sat down and watched the media proclaim it as barbarian and then flipped over to Netflix and watched that stupid Will Smith movie about it.
That my friend is a textbook definition of it not being PC.

This pretty well sums up my thoughts as well. I thought the hit was a clean, tough, football play. If Arceneaux is in possession of the ball it's not a penalty IMO. Loffler committed himself to the hit, and at full speed it's impossible to stop. He didn't hit his head, he made contact with his chest.
I feel bad that Arceneaux was injured but as other posters have said it's football, and its a rough game.....

And then if Manny catches the ball, everyone is questioning Loffler for easing up and not playing to the whistle.
To be honest, this might not be a popular opinion with some people but last I checked, football is a job that these guys willingly participate in. It's not slavery, they're not being forced to go out there and compete in a barbaric sport that puts them at risk against their own will. For that reason, while I prefer to not see a guy have his brains scrambled if all things are equal, I don't care to see these hits removed from the game. I hate that what would've made highlight reels 20 years ago is now picked apart. That's a beautiful hit and I'm going to cheer every single time Loffler lays a guy out like that, medical implications be damned.

So, we want to get back on the ole 2 yr coaching carousel.....yet again.   MOS has made some mistakes, but in the larger picture, should be retained.....
Walters should be a slam dunk....
 

Anybody who wants to fire the coach after we were 11 and 7 is just being ridiculous. 
I'm all for getting rid of Hall but MOS did a hell of a job this year and deserves to be back. 

2nd play of game....Randell picks off Jennings
Blue cash in a Harris plunge, after some hard running
Lions drive down to the Blue 14.....
...but Leggett forces Jennings to fumble...Bass recovers..
Passes to Dressler and Adams...couple of BC penalties.....
...sets up Medlock FG......Bombers out of the gate - 11-0
Andrew Harris running like he wants to finish business....
Blue D vanishes...BC marches 75 yds for TD, in short order...
Blue pull double end-around fake....hits Dressler for 60 yds...
Next play. Nichols hits Smith on wide open post pattern 27 yd TD
Bombers throwing it down the field to Smith, in this one.
The play action is giving the Lions D some trouble...
...Nichols then rolls out and hits that Smith fella for 35 yd TD
...Smith making me eat something, with my gin, at this point.
BC 6 penalties - Blue 0....not sure how long that will last.....
Moe Leggett still making plays....so is Randle.....
25-6....looks good. But Bombers can't stand prosperity.....
Wild misses tackle on Rainey (along with 3 others) for big YAC
Wild then whiffs on Johnson's TD run....just like that.....
25-15. Not getting the pressure on Jennings...we had at start....
McDuffie not getting much room on kick returns......
Nichols bombs down the sideline to JFG.....sets up Medlock FG..
The ole even up process begins...Bombers take 3 penalties
...on BD drive to help set up Jennings TD run...
Loffler called for playing through the ball - and cold cocking Manny A.
Bomber D can't close the deal on 2nd down BC conversions....
BC challenges on long pass defended by Randle...they get it....
...which completely flips field position....
...but Lions get called for roughing the kicker...
...and passes to Smith and Denmark get them in position for Medlock.
31-19.....a few more stops on D....and things are looking good
Ok, things are not looking good.....Lions march right down the field.....
....Jennings hits Sinkfield for TD. 31-26 Bombers....D looks worn out.
Hoping for game saving turnover.....or else.
Next series....D playing way off receivers and not getting pressure....
Jennings breaks pocket...runs it 15 yds for the TD........BC 32-31.....
After McDuffie return...Nichols trots out with 58 sec left.....
2nd down pass knocked down......3rd and 4....gamble time...
Incredibly ....Medlock come out to attempt 61 yarder in dead air dome...
...which falls well short......game over.
Wonder how Nichols felt, when that call was made?
But this loss is not on him or Medlock....
... or even MOS.....tempting as that might be.....
..it falls right on this defense, which blew a 25-6 lead.....
Down the stretch...simply no rush, no cover, no tackling......
Looked like a Jim Daley D out there. Terrible.
This team made some strides...but still missing some pieces....
I have made some strides....but still missing some bottles....  

Given the laws of momentum and the spit-second in which the decision had to be made, I suggest that there was really no viable option.

Loffler didnt have time to stop and say...oh ok he didn't catch it. He was in the air when Manny tipped the ball away. He was making a football play during the most important game of the year to seperate the ball from the rec. Didn't lead with his head. Even turned away from the hit. Two big guys running like that, there's bound to be an accident here or there. They called Loffler only cause Manny didn't get up. it unfortunate, but you can't penalise guys for accidents. If Loffler had jumped under Manny's chin, then sure that's not good. But he didn't. Manny was Ko'd as a result of playing hard football. Not cause Loffler tried to hurt him.

I've seen opposition defenders try to separate the head from the body of  some of our receivers and it was not considered a penalty...Just a bull$hit call....This game is played rough (that was a clean hit by Loffler) AND if you can't take the heat ...get the hell out of the kitchen... I swear this game is turning into one for the mamby pamby's...O'Shea is still shaking his head on that one as I am about the stupid last call by him at the end going for the field goal....Horsefeathers.

we can't ignore the "what if he caught it" factor... this is Manny Arceneaux we're talking about here... if the ball is remotely close to him, there's about a 90% chance he's catching it...
So what if Manny had the ball in his hands and Loffler's hit jars it loose preventing a TD... does he still get a penalty?... Does that mean safeties are now in a lose-lose situation where they have to decide give up a TD or risk taking a penalty while knocking the ball loose, with a clean hit no less...
it's such a grey area in this case... it's a great hit and would hate to see it taken out of the game... but how do you protect a wr extending for a catch??

3 reasons I didn't like the call:
1) Murray Clarke made it.  He's terrible.
2) The ball was still live at the time of the hit.  It was a ball that was in the air and in the end zone.  I've seen too many circus catches over the years to think someone as talented as Arceneaux can't lunge for that ball and catch it with his fingertips while keeping a toe inbounds.
3) Loffler got there less than a second after the ball went off Manny's fingertips.  If the outcome is changed - Arceneaux catches the ball rather than tips it - and Loffler arrives at that same point in time and delivers the same hit (clean but incredibly vicious), I am certain no flag gets thrown, and Loffler is getting praised for dislodging the ball and preventing a touchdown.  And if that's the case, then Loffler is really getting penalized for not being able to recognize the incompletion AND change direction in under a full second.  And, as I suggested above, the certainty of it being an incompletion wasn't guaranteed until Loffler made that hit.
But oh well.  I hope Arceneaux is alright and able to play next week.  He seems like one of those good guys who just has the misfortune of not wearing blue and gold.

Every one under the sun has the stamps and eskies penciled in for the grey cup. Ill take the field. bombers vs redblacks grey cup!

How did they get it wrong?  These players are supposed to be role models for kids, and frankly that's not an example I want my kids to look up to.  Maybe, like Super Duper Negatron, I'm too much of a square too, but I just don't get how anyone can see this suspension as being wrong.

He won one challenge and lost one, so he didn't have any left.

He won one challenge and lost one, so he didn't have any left.

He won one challenge and lost one, so he didn't have any left.

How did they get it wrong?  These players are supposed to be role models for kids, and frankly that's not an example I want my kids to look up to.  Maybe, like Super Duper Negatron, I'm too much of a square too, but I just don't get how anyone can see this suspension as being wrong.

It has nothing to do with being performance enhancing, it has to do with setting a good example for the kids who look up to professional athletes.  I don't believe that recreational drugs are a good example for my kids to see, so I have no problem with the suspension.

How did they get it wrong?  These players are supposed to be role models for kids, and frankly that's not an example I want my kids to look up to.  Maybe, like Super Duper Negatron, I'm too much of a square too, but I just don't get how anyone can see this suspension as being wrong.

How did they get it wrong?  These players are supposed to be role models for kids, and frankly that's not an example I want my kids to look up to.  Maybe, like Super Duper Negatron, I'm too much of a square too, but I just don't get how anyone can see this suspension as being wrong.

How did they get it wrong?  These players are supposed to be role models for kids, and frankly that's not an example I want my kids to look up to.  Maybe, like Super Duper Negatron, I'm too much of a square too, but I just don't get how anyone can see this suspension as being wrong.

I would argue that it is when there is blatant holding so our guys can't even get near him...

I would argue that it is when there is blatant holding so our guys can't even get near him...

I believe the glass can be slid out of the way, so the whole suite can be opened up to the outdoors for their suites.