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Nfl tc money is not the same as pr though. Last year, players with less than 1 year service got 1850 a week. this year that goes up to 2k. For a full camp, plus the pre season games, guys with less than a year service get around 11-15k. Which is in the range of 15-20k canadian, before taxes. It only takes a couple weeks on a pr to out earn a cfl deal, but elgersma isn’t in that position. He as of yet hasn’t gotten a futures contract or camp invite even. To get that, he will now have to beat out an entire new rookie crop. This based off a preseason appearance, and a cis resume. He isn’t rourke, and rourke has basically no leverage and got barely a shot. I understand chasing nfl pr money, but he isn’t making some easy, economically sound decision. He’s gambling for more money with a pretty small chance of wining. The time to get a look now is counting down his nfl widow days after a cfl deal as well. If he kicks around for another year then comes up, he puts him self in a tight spot. He turns 25 next month, it’s going to be 2 years before he would get nfl consideration if he fast tracks to success. At that point he’s 28 for the next nfl camp, right at the end of his nfl window. I get it, but it’s long term, short odds gambling. At this point, I’d be happy if we traded his rights and sold high on him.

None because this isn’t even what was reported. It was reported that Clercius made some mistakes and was criticized by Collaros for those mistakes. No where has it been reported that Clercius criticized Collaros.

There isn't any explanation, other than failure to recognize the player(s) is incompetent....What measurables used by Osh to make his decisions are tough to pin point....The 2 players you mention were obviously not good enough ....one due to 'best before date' long expired, and the other was out of his depth at the position or as some have put it 'just plain crap' ...I don't know why they were not treated the same as Clercius and benched....only Osh can answer that...It certainly smacks of favoritism and if you allow that to permeate your club ....one day it will all catch up....Seeing as both players are no longer on our roster maybe the coach has had a revelation...One can only hope ....I won't hold my breath

clercius is 26, and started for a bit over a year and a half. Stoddard was in the league 9 years and broke 500 yards twice. Clercius last year was better than 5 of stoddards 9 years in the league and on the heels of his 6th best year. its a terrible comparison, if any thing corcoran is a poor man’s stoddard in a far better era for ni wrs.

Any actual proof?

pretty bad dynamics that a HC would succeed to another players bitching....and that sure doesnt sound FIFO 'sh to me of ZC....Maybe some players should have berated his crap play/errors and got him parked on bench...should go both ways ....no?....sad state that apparently is

I think the 'show me the money' quip should be laid at the feet of Elgersma's agent also...Sometimes I wonder if any of these guys have the true interest of their client at heart....money being the 'only' motivating factor for some of them....Obviously it looks like at the moment, things for the kid are drying up, and he should be casting his eye northward in earnest...IF his representative is just blowing smoke up his arse, I think Elgersma would be wise to seek out another agent...If our draft pic shows little or no interest in attending tc....looks like a bust ,and his football career will have come to an abrupt halt...Somehow I think he'll show up here when saner heads prevail

Yeah clercius basically makes a play with his targets...and is a guy teams need to pay attention to, as has been seen in his very short time starting with several big plays And hes just basically in early stages if his career and with more use..will put up more numbers Not his fault hes never the primary guy...has a qb who tends to zero in and force most balls to his one or two favorites as other guys are running free...proper use and actual focused plays and he would get it done...dude has best hands on the team after Lawler left Corcoran should be injury depth at most...has shown nothing really and if his game isnt elevated this camp he should be gone or on the PR..he can't up his metrics..is what he is and will basically just be a place holder in a group of 5..and be a 1 or 2 catch guy a game for 18 yards and really be no threat...Clercius can and has gotten yac..can run away from and run over guys as we have seen..feed him some balls...see the results Yeah...id like to see this as was first i heard of it...and in all honesty...ZC deserved a ton of criticism for a whack of throws....and the inability at times to even get a throw off due to his tunnel vision of his fav target and not seeing the other open guys

Really? I don't care if you're the 5th option, 12 targets still suck. And they tried to bring Corcoran in to help block on end arounds etc. and he wasn't good there either. If he had shown anything in terms of making a catch in traffic areas maybe he'd have shown more potential. But you are right in that really the 5th receiver behind Wilson, White Demski,and Nield doesn't need to show much, but the issue becomes when a Nield or Demski goes down and Corcoran has to elevate his game, nothing I've seen says he can do that .

I could care less about a Canadian QB and the incessant push for it...and why it even matters...there are elite Canadians all over the CFL who should get the promoting..and if not for NFL politics could play on an NFL roster over most teams back half roster..but never gonna happen The CFL media and fans should focus on best possible players period for Canadians and not push this stupid QB thing...cause in all honesty for every Rourke..which is historically rare and always will be...there's dozens of Shittier than Boltus Canadian QB's...and couldn't hold his jock. Media needs to let that one go He has raw skills...but at this point its all he has..and needs to develop it to see if he has any chance of being even moderately successful...doing the dance he is won't get that for him..and if he lands on a PR...even that won't...but on a roster here...getting some reps be it short yardage...special packages..whatever...gets you film..and eyes...look at Ford here...one game as a starter essentially got him a look...it wasn't his ST work as there are literally a 1000 Fords in the U.S with same or better skillset who can be teams guys...he showed something in his start and that alone was the bump he needed to get a shot...game film...Elgersma has none...and won't get any

Elgersma's actually ******* himself over without realizing it. He hasn't had a tryout in weeks. Teams are now turning attention to college pro days, upcoming NFL Draft & college free agent qbs that probably won't be drafted. With the new qb crop, he'll slide down even further. It's his (career) funeral. I'm sure he has lots of stories about his NFL travels, how great Matt LaFleur & Jordan Love were when he's in the qb room with his guys at Laurier. They'll just gawk & go, "Wow!!" Stupid is as stupid does.

We are clearly back in win now mode. We reached a bit for him, but with the nfl interest and pre season his value should be up if any thing. The draw is mainly in making a hype move, which is still valuable for half the league. I’d be happy if we took a former high pick, and got a mid round pick, or moved up in the global draft, or got other creative value. Some one like manu might be a worthy mix in for a team stock piling futures. Go out and find a qb who is quick enough to reliably make the first man miss when breaking the pocket and fast enough to out run cfl ends to the corner on boundary side. If he is coach able enough to stay low on the short yardage pack, you have a better qb3 than most teams in the league. (sad statement that is) And really put pressure on wilson, chase, and especially perkins to step up. No failing down into qb2, and 3 spots. Make one win qb2, or send them all home.

Or maybe the second year player was making too many mistakes so the coach benched him. Hope Clercius can take the next step this season. Lots of tools. Look great at times, but something happened where he felL out of favour

Yup at this point develop Perkins Thorne Wilson or Artopoeous and trade Elgersma for a pile of picks.

Big Air Big Win!

Sounds like Josh may be back soon.

12 targets in 18 games or less than 1 a game shows that a) You can't get open and b) Teams don't view you as a threat. Clercius had 57 in 18 games or over 3 a game. Cobb had 8 in 4 games or 2 per game.

He should have said 2 proud Canadians who refused to sign with Canadian nhl teams coming down on a 2 on 1.

Thomas theme song:

And prob was justified criticism..as he had a ton of crap throws...grow a pair ZC and do better...u too Osh And best hands on team And have ability to do some Nothing after catch...hes a total non factor...but tries hard lol One mistake constitutes a benching...but other favs can just plain suck..and make mistakes and be exposed...yet are safe as safe can be...thats some good coaching right there... Explain kolo..Thomas..amoung others...

time to begin the thawing of Jamie Stoddard!!

Got two tickets to Touchdown Kelowna on June 27th which is my birthday. A friend of mine is a Stamps STH & since he was going with his 2 young sons, he got two tickets for my wife & I. That should be a fun weekend. We haven't been to Kelowna since 2017 when my son was an Asst Coach with the Okanagan Sun. Be interesting to attend one of these CFL niche games. More power to Lions owner Amar Doman for trying to grow the game in BC. Unlike that trash ownership in Toronto who do virtually nothing for the Argos in Southern Ontario.

Clercius is playing out of position. slow but big bodied receiver should be playing at slot. Move one of the faster slots outside or sign a free agent wideout.

Rumoured fight? Is this from the Trust Me Bro source?

If we're sellers, it'll mean a shitty season next year as no way we're ever in the market for an impact free agent. I'd sure like to see how a more aggressive GM would handle things but we'll never know. With Chevy he has a #jobforlife because of his bestie Chipman.

Our Jets season just keeps getting better & better. At least the rest of the team save for Hellebuyck will be healed up & well rested.

95% of the posters yesterday:

Okay I really really want TCM to find a way around the CRTC during 31 days of Oscar because they are airing Tender Mercies in March and I want to see it (there's a site that shows what they're going to show next month including the schedule changes for Canada) https://deadline.com/2026/02/robert-duvall-dead-1236726076/

Picky, picky, picky.

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