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Roster usage is a valid criticism of MOS. However, you are stretching things by implying that Danny was suggesting that MOS handcuffs the recruitment process, and that is nonsense.

I recruit players for varying programs...and it wasnt a comment based on "skill" or "ability"...nor furthering an "agenda"...tho u seem to like to maintain yours with anyone who criticises the coach or how he goes about "some" things....not "all" things so get that part straight. Many here claim and think Osh does no wrong. Has no serious flaws..and is always right...and that just not the case. I know full well when recruiting and scouting what a program wants and is looking for...also not foolish enough to see in the Bombers case that at times our beloved can't do wrong coach values some things...many of which are a mystery to many over actual talent and the better player...this culture thing is so over blown and over used it's getting laughable...it's not some new idea we created nor we branded...and if u have a solid room and a hands on coaching staff you can get any player to buy in...unkess u bring in a guy like Marshal in Sask or the like....some guys are just assholes..and if u can't...he gets a ticket outta town.... Funniest thing is that many many MANY players that have played here.. and elsewhere...many who are lauded as legends and best ever...wouldn't have "the character" to play on an Osh led team...and sometimes you need to look past the scheme or where u have predetermined either a Canadian or American position and if you find a player who would necessitate a switch...you bring them in...

Nobody looked good in the return dept. last year ...We need to stop screwing around with the returner position...Why the hell we ever parted ways with Grant still boggles my mind....Whitehead showed **** all last year and there was literally nobody behind him...Preseason better show we've turned up a decent prospect OR Case shows he belongs...Tired of watching a guy field a punt and literally fall down...disheartening to say the least ...We can't give up field position continually and be successful.....Here's hopin we 'find' OR have found the guy

I want a guy returning who is a threat to rip off a big return or long TD every play. We didn't have that last year and If Logan is out, not sure we have that again.

I guess if you want to take Danny Mac's comments out of context then you may have a point. Every recruiter on every team has the challenge of finding players that fit the coaching scheme. You are making a benign comment by a scout into something much more than what it was to try and further your agenda. Of course, our recruiters are going to try find players that fit our culture, it is by far the single biggest reason for our success over recent years. If not for that we are the Riders.

4th year running...

I don't get what your point is.

It would be interesting to know what determines playing one guy over another from the mind of O'Shea. I can understand character issues if you have self destructive guy who can be a cancer for a locker room for which his athletic / gameday ability is great but the overall value afterwards isn't worth it. I can't imagine over the last many years that we brought in guys who fit that negative criteria for which we dress a Navy Seal with D- level skills over numerous players who clearly have a much better upside.

One can hope I guess...Just dont see it in him...cant learn and automatically come up with explosion and ability ....with all the players out there....pretty sure we could find 10 guys with a better skillset than Case...and as a reciever...we already have enough Smurf types...Settling again....see no point to it...But if he rips off some big returns in pre-season....takes one to the house....or appears to be a threat to in more of his returns, than not....and shows ability to break away from the pack or out run coverage...will change my opinion, but he showed none of that last yr...tbd I guess

Just because a player is a vet...or been here a few yrs....doesnt make them better....or the best option....or higher potential....and in the end make you a better squad and more well rounded...we have gotten away from thtt here....some the intangibles shouldn't trump talent We have enough vets and leaders....and according to all the culture/character in place to easily bring on new....younger...hungrier guys with zero issues....saying other wise is false And as this regime claims they "only" bring in a certain kinda guy to fit said culture...so makes even more reason to play the best over the weak sisters, as should be a perfect fit One lil tidbit one if was listening from Danny Mac...was his comment about trying to find a player that Osh "will play" That is a pretty good indicator that at times a player is played on an Osh like's for whatever reason, rather than most talented. W e have seen that in spades with him so not a stretch by any means.

I'm not ready to rule out Case entirely just yet....he showed a couple small flashes, he has what many, many players never get an extended look and opportunity....not anointing him the next great returner, but after a year on and off the roster last year to develop and learn the nuances and an offseason he now has the opportunity to prove he took it all in and has the ability and mindset to show he grew and improved and can do the job....many guys never get that shot, he is one of the lucky few, maybe he takes this opportunity and shines.....

I agree there comes a point where talent has to win out. There is a balance though just look at the Maple leafs, they had talent but as a team they lacked the willingness to go to battle for each other. This year I hope that players like Cam Allen at safety and Gowan at corner get a legitimate shot at starter positions. Bridges might be ok but hes not gonna replace Ford

Guy last yr had a better leg last yr too....huge hang time....out punted Punter guy every practice i went to until his eventualrelease....But...Osh just loved the weird guy we kept and thought it was cool...special...good???...who knows but thats all that mattered and we ended up with the worst punter in league due to it and consistancy and placement we didnt get, and we just kept rying to make it work...Just cause Osg says so...doesnt make it right or true....see Donald Trump Be nice to have the leg to lick yourself out of danger too tho....and any coach who dosnt like hangtime combined with placement is...well a fool hopefully we unearth someone because we all know if logan isnt ready Cody Case will be gifted the job....as returner/extra receiver and he is a big nothing burger and really offers us nothing other than a middling average player

Adams was never hurt....Woods got dinged but when have we not played dinged players? 🤔 I guess you need to be an Osh fav to get that privilege. I know for a fact Parker was ready to go well over a month before they "claimed" he was ready....and he was none to pleased about being parked too Like center on the oline....you need a legit Nose....dt...3 tech...what have you for the others to be able to eat....and we choose to for 80% of reps play scrubs like Thomas and Schmeck...sometimes both at ame damn time...and well...you see how succesful our dline has been...particularly the last 2 yrs I dont care who is on the dline...Candian...American...Chinese...hell an alien from the moon for all I care as long as they earned it in legit battle in TC and can maintain it for the season ...and if someone shows better in practice as the yr progresses...well then insert away...Thats how it used to be in football from my experience...this handing of jibs to guys just cause...or because they been here a while...or they have some attribute Osh think's that awards them the job even tho they notthe best candidate needs to go

Right.and I’m saying Thompson doesn’t care. The jets are a write off to him. He’s around maybe 5 times a season. But Scheifele declined as he lives in Winnipeg year round. His gf is here. He came here then went.

Adams and Woods were either left off the game day roster or hurt for long stretches last year. I do see your point though, having our DT’s brutalize Kola in camp actually isn’t saying much… but the dl was still better during rare live snaps when JT was on the sideline. JT taking most of the snaps and not having a Nevis or Stove type next to him for sure been a key issue. Really bad composition and use of DE rotation also frustrating to see.

I watched it last night and thought the documentary was underwhelming and all over the place. The timelines kept bouncing around, the director kept flip flopping between comedy and serious tones, and they didn't dig deep on who he is (was) and basically allowed this guy to put on a show to satisfy his narcissitic needs. It was weird that they only had his ex wife on for a few minutes when she would of been best able to explain what his true personality is like. She had one line about him being conniving and a liar. They should of expanded and provide examples of where in public he was a friendly funny guy, but behind closed doors he was a bad guy. They had a few of his old co workers, but most of the people on the doc were Red River students who barely knew him. Does he have a drug problem? He alluded to it? What about his affair with a student for ten years? How did his wife and him end up so broke so quickly? What is he doing today? He seems to be working at a bar/restaurant? What did he use the money for his robberies? How does he own a house now? So many questions left unanswered. Could of been much better.

Walters, Osh & Younger don't feel the need to upgrade the DL at the 0-2 techs either. Haven't since we last won the GC in 2021. Coincidence????? We play like we constantly eat Cheetos on the defensive line. Worst in the CFL.

At least we get spared clips of camp tippy toes…. Year after year there are at least one or two vids of Kola getting absolutely destroyed by a DT. Last year it was either Adams or Woods making him look stupid. Just saw a clip of #94, Adams again - put Kola on roller skates. Just insane that the team doesn’t see any need to upgrade center.

This year's winner of the Do Absolutely Nothing At Training Camp Club & Get Your Job Handed Back To You, No Questions asked

I do agree, it is a real small sample so far though. I look forward to seeing him in pre season. Tbh sheahan looks better when he isn’t being rushed at game speed too. I’m very optimistic, this could be our best global draft yet.

Dude - in another couple years they'll have the perfect scheme for Sheehan's putting.

got the build of Blo-De Dorzon, but hopefully the talent of Joe Smith

I was really looking forward to a change of pace guy to pair off with Brady. But I guess it would be tough to have a DA without them playing that returner role.

To be fair the new guy was imo just as good putting them between the numbers and the sideline as the vet.