I figured he deserved his own thread seeing as we will more than likely draft him.

Tied for first so far.

http://www.tsn.ca/hockey-canada/mens-worlds/statistics

5 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I can't see Chevy trading away this pick, he likes more developing through the draft not wheeling and dealing. Not his MO. I don't see him pulling the trigger on this. 

And how would that change with this proposed trade?

10 minutes ago, JCon said:

And how would that change with this proposed trade?

By the wheel and deal feel to this, the higher risk incurred and potentially not getting the best player you could get in the draft outside of Matthews.

 

1 minute ago, HardCoreBlue said:

By the wheel and deal feel to this, the higher risk incurred and potentially not getting the best player you could get in the draft outside of Matthews.

 

But the point I was making is that if the Jets had already decided Pulu was the guy, why not make a deal with CBJ?

Just now, JCon said:

But the point I was making is that if the Jets had already decided Pulu was the guy, why not make a deal with CBJ?

True, but why make a deal unless you can manipulate their desperation, you don't have to trade away the pick to get him if that's the case. We are in the position of strength, CBJ is not. Seth Jones sounds good. 

And for the record, my opinion, with trying to cancel out the hype, is PL is the man to take if Matthews isn't selected. 

I've been wondering about a Columbus trade too. I was thinking they'd want Trouba as part of the trade.

If Columbus is willing to overpay because they're desperate to make sure they get Laine.......you look long and hard at it, for sure. Not really sure what I'd want from them, tho...

No no no y would Columbus give up one of these guys just to swap 3 to 2nd?  Unless they see a superstar in Laine? Whoever gets the best player in a deal wins.You don't trade a franchise player away...... unless your forced to.Thank god Chevy stays the course with draft picks... .

Edited June 23, 20169 yr by bb1

So if Puljujarvi is virtually the same as Laine, as some here postulate,  then why wouldn't Columbus just sit and wait for him at #3?

Just gonna throw this out there, but Columbus's manager just happens to be Finnish, does he know something we don't.

1 hour ago, Noeller said:

If Columbus is willing to overpay because they're desperate to make sure they get Laine.......you look long and hard at it, for sure. Not really sure what I'd want from them, tho...

My thought was a trade to so we'd have 2 & 3. It would take Trouba + to get it done though.

Can't see Columbus wanting to pass on one of those Top 3 guys, tho....that would be pretty silly. 

Murray is an UFA in two years and has to be protected but I like picking up Werenski...

Trouba and 2nd overall for Werenski, Gabriel Carlsson, Wennberg and 3rd overall.

Trade 1st rounders with Vancouver and they also add Virtanen and a 2nd from this year.

Jets lose 2nd overall and Trouba for Virtanen, Werenski, Carlsson, Wennberg and 5th overall where Tkachuk or PLD should still be available and 35th overall.

2 hours ago, Ducky said:

Murray is an UFA in two years and has to be protected but I like picking up Werenski...

Trouba and 2nd overall for Werenski, Gabriel Carlsson, Wennberg and 3rd overall.

Trade 1st rounders with Vancouver and they also add Virtanen and a 2nd from this year.

Jets lose 2nd overall and Trouba for Virtanen, Werenski, Carlsson, Wennberg and 5th overall where Tkachuk or PLD should still be available and 35th overall.

Just add in the moon and u would be set up!?

Columbus can't afford trouba. Anyone check their cap?  It's not possible 

They don't even have the space to sign Seth Jones. They are screwed. 

Murray is actually an rfa in 2 years. He was drafted 2nd overall the same year trouba was drafted 9th overall. Rfa. Just signed a 2 year bridge. 

 

Most I'd do since it's Columbus wanting Laine over Puljujarvi is 2 plus Roslovic for 3 plus Werenski. If Columbus wants Laine that bad and the Jets feel that the difference between Laine and Puljujarvi isn't as huge as some think... Columbus is the one adding to move to 2... not the Jets 

Edited June 24, 20169 yr by Goalie

Boy you sure want to unload Roslovic, almost as bad as some here want to unload Myers.

A good point on 1290 today, the Jets would surely make a trade with the Columbus if they planned on picking JP, get some assets for the difference between 2nd and 3rd. 

Edited June 24, 20169 yr by IC Khari

39 minutes ago, IC Khari said:

A good point on 1290 today, the Jets would surely make a trade with the Columbus if they planned on picking JP, get some assets for the difference between 2nd and 3rd. 

Why would Columbus pay anything if they know Pool party is still there at 3?

2 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

Why would Columbus pay anything if they know Pool party is still there at 3?

If they want Laine.

Oh I see. If the Jets wanted Pool party. 

Interesting note from Elliotte Friedman's always-interesting 30 Thoughts:

 

3. If you were Edmonton, would you make this offer: the fourth overall pick to the Winnipeg Jets for Jacob Trouba and pick No. 22? You’d have to know you could sign Trouba, for sure. But I wonder how the Jets would feel about going back to Manitoba with Patrik Laine and Matthew Tkachuk. They’d probably be in a better mood this weekend than, say, the European Union.

I don't understand why we would ever want to dump defensemen for forwards, other than this whole expansion draft talk.

We walk away from the draft with Laine and Tkachuk? Great, where the hell do all these forwards play?

Without getting into line combinations, that's Laine, Connor, Wheeler, Tkachuk, Little, Perreault, Ehlers, Scheifele, Dano, Armia, Lowry, Copp in our 12 - not factoring in Stafford (who will be gone) or any of our forward prospects. If anything, we need to be condensing the amount of forward prospects we have, not trading potential #1 D-men for more of them.

2 minutes ago, Mike said:

I don't understand why we would ever want to dump defensemen for forwards, other than this whole expansion draft talk.

We walk away from the draft with Laine and Tkachuk? Great, where the hell do all these forwards play?

Without getting into line combinations, that's Laine, Connor, Wheeler, Tkachuk, Little, Perreault, Ehlers, Scheifele, Dano, Armia, Lowry, Copp in our 12 - not factoring in Stafford (who will be gone) or any of our forward prospects. If anything, we need to be condensing the amount of forward prospects we have, not trading potential #1 D-men for more of them.

Because it's fun to make fantasy trades?

 

 

Its not a terrible trade if the Trouba negotiations arent going well.  Although I wonder if Edmonton would take pick 36 rather than 22 (or a throw-in forward).

And I think it only happens because of the expansion draft.  There is simply no way the Jets can lose any of their top D for nothing.  But they have several forwards they could lose. 

Having "extra" forwards isnt an issue if you can package up 2 or 3 of them for a D.  If the Jets picked #2 and #4 and lost Trouba, I wouldnt be surprised to see them be aggressive in getting a young D who is expansion draft exempt. 

Sources say Jets are taking Puljujarvi 

Sorry but Friedman is just click baiting people. Not a chance the Jets add 22 to Trouba... Cam Fowler is being shopped and the ducks want 8th overall from Buffalo or 9th overall from Montreal, those are the 2 rumored destinations. 

 

Not a chance that Jets trade Trouba plus 22 for 4... If they did, they would be stupid. Trouba has more value than that... LOL at the thought that the Jets would be adding.

 

If you are trading Trouba, which i don't think they will do, It's for a LHD.. not another forward. 

 

Chevy has already gone on record saying they are open to moving 22, they are looking for a top 9 forward and LHD...

 

Trading for pick 4 is seriously stupid unless then the plan is to trade pick 4 away...

 

Don't need both Laine or Puljujarvi and  Tkachuk. Agreed with Mike here big time. 

 

Edited June 24, 20169 yr by Goalie