Election 2015

[Mr Dee]

Don't let the "nuanced" "ridiculous" posts take attention away from seeing what Harper has done during his "reign". It's important to know what the PM has done while in power.

[sweep the leg]

Speaking of democracy & the Wheatboard, didn't the Conservatives change the law so farmers didn't get a vote on the change? Or am I "misremembering" that? I can't find a story about it, but I seem to remember it being a thing.

[The Unknown Poster]

 

 

 

Thats democracy or something.

Remember that line when you're stomping your feet about a coalition government.

 

Accepting what is possible does not preclude speaking out against it.  I think Coalitions are idiotic and defy the intent of Canadians.  But if the Liberals and NDP do it, then the blame lays with the voters who let them.

[The Unknown Poster]

. It's important to know what the PM has done while in power.

 

 

I agree:

 

Check out the Harper Government Accomplishments.

 

1. Adoption Expense Tax Credit increased — from a one-time $13,100 to 15,000 in 2014 (Link)
2. Adult “Basic” Education Northern Initiative — announced by PM Harper on Thursday, Feb. 23rd, 2012 in Iqaluit, for Aboriginal people living in the three territories; (Link)
3. Aga Khan and PM Harper open Ismaili Centre and Aga Khan Museum — a multicultural partnership dedicated to artistic & intellectual contributions by Muslims (Link)
4. Age of Consent Legislation — raised from 14 to 16 effective May 1, 2008 (Link)
5. Air India Final Report of the Commission of Inquiry — PM Harper apologizes to the friends and relatives of all those who died in that disaster (Link)
6. Apology to Native People — by the Government of Canada on June 11, 2008 for residential school abuses (Link)
7. Arctic All-Season Highway — a 137 kilometer project linking Inuvik and Tuktoyaktuk and the Arctic Ocean for first time (Link)
8. Arctic Research Council launched to improve lives for people in the North — for resource development, shipping, marine safety, community infrastructure (Link)
9. Benin Foreign Investment & Promotion Protection Agreement (FIPA) — legally binding rights and obligations with respect to investment in effect May 12, 2014 (Link)
10. Beyond the Border Agreement with the U.S. — passed in late 2011, on perimeter security co-operation (Link)
11. Boundary Dam at Estevan, Saskatchewan — site of carbon capture coal plant receiving $240 million in federal subsidies (Link)
12. Canada Apprentice Loan Program — up to $4000 for those registered in any Red Seals apprenticeship training announced in January 2015(Link)
13. Canada’s Citizenship Act Amendment — to reduce processing time to less than a year and reducing backlog by over 80% (Link)
14. Canada/EU Trade Agreement — although ratification still required, an `End of Negotiations`Agreement signed on September 26, 2014 (Link)
15. Canada Student Loan Program expanded — to include shorter-term duration educational programs of at least 34 weeks duration (Link)
16. Canadian Wheat Board Monopoly Ends — Bill C18 removed the CWB’s monopoly regarding decisions made by many Western farmers to market their wheat (Link)
17. China Foreign Investment Deal (FIPA) — while controversial, sets out legal framework to clarify obligations and rights re investment in Canada (Link)
18. Chinese Head Tax Apology— by the government on June 22, 2006 (Link) (Link)
19. Chinese Immigrant Provision — of $20,000 to every individual and/or surviving spouses who paid the head tax plus $24 million towards an “historical recognition program”(Link)
20. Columbia Free Trade Agreement — went into force on August 15th, 2011 (Link)
21. Consumer Product Safety Act — came into effect June 20, 2011 to ensure manufacturers do not market dangerous products (Link)
22. Corporate Tax Rate — reduced from 18% to 16.5% effective January 2012, with another 1.5% reduction in 2012 to 15% (Link)
23. Corrupt Regimes Act (C-61) – allows Canada to act upon the request of a foreign state to freeze the assets that their former leaders and members of their entourage, including family members, senior officials and associates, may have placed in Canadian financial institutions (Link)
24. Czech Republic Foreign Investment Promotion & Protection Agreement (FIPA)— went into force January 22nd, 2012 (Link)
25. Devolution of Land & Resources in the Northwest Territories — from the federal government to the Government took place on April 1st, 2014 with the legislation receiving Royal Assent on March 25, 2014 (Link) (Link)
26. Disability Savings Plan — part of the 2007 budget, it was fully implemented in December, 2008 (Link)
27. Ebola Virus Eradication — Conservative gov’t committed $ 113.4 million to support health & humanitarian efforts in Western Africa (Link)
28. Eeyou Marine Region Land Claims Agreement — between Canada, Nunavut and Grand Council of the Crees (Link)
29. Employer Caregiver’s Plan — called the CECP, it is an attempt to help employers help employees who have caring responsibilities (Link)
30. Employment Insurance Premiums Reduced —  in the fall of 2014 by 15% for to encourage small businesses to hire (Link)
31. Exploited Persons Act — legislation that received Royal Assent to protect against drug, organized or prostitution type of crime (Link)
32. Express Entry Immigration into Canada Program — when skilled immigrants to Canada will get quick entry so that they can contribute to economy (Link) (Link)
33. Fair Representation Act — Bill C-20 became law on Dec. 16, 2011 and will come into effect for the 2015 federal election (338 seats in total rather than the current 308) (Link)
34. Fair Elections Act — requires Chief Electoral Officer to lay out clear electoral guidelines became law on June 19, 2014 (Link) (Link) (Link)
35. Fairness at the Pumps Act (C-14) – protects Canadian consumers from inaccurate measurements when purchasing gasoline effective August 2014 (Link) (Link)
36. Family Caregiver Tax Credit — Bill C-13 established a new $2000 tax credit on December 15, 2011 to help families dealing with challenging medical expenses (Link)
37. Family Income Splitting — families with children under 18 will be allowed to split income beginning in 2014 up to $50,000 with credit capped at $2000.00 (Link)
38. Federal Infrastructure Plan — longest long-term plan in Canadian history supporting projects that enhance economic growth, job creation and productivity (Link) (Link)
39. First Nations Transparency Act — passed on March 27th, 2013 and requires all First Nations to post financial records and documents on a website as of July 1st, 2014 (Link)
40. Food Labelling Initiative — to clarify and modernize labelling on food products, including “Product of Canada” and “Made in Canada” claims (Link)
41. Forest Market Opportunity Program — supporting innovation and diversification in the forest sector until March 2016 (Link)
42. Free Trade Agreement — signed on July 2, 2009 — between Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland (Link)
43. Gun Registry Scrapped — as the legislation passed Third Reading (Link) (Royal Assent)
44. Gender Equity in Indian Registration — legislation that addresses a court ruling on gender discrimination in the Indian Act (Link)
45. GIS Improvements — for seniors in 2006, changed to allow for higher earned income — (Link)
46. GST /HST– Goods & Services Tax Cut — From 7% to 6% and then to 5% (Link)
47. Haiti’s Debt to Canada Cancelled — on June 25, 2010, at the G8 meeting in Huntsville (Link)
48. Honduras Free Trade Agreement — completed and signed on November 5th, 2013 and will enter into force on June 19, 2014 (Link) (Link) (Link)
49. Identity Theft Legislation– (Bill S-4) — received Royal Assent on October 27, 2009 — for obtaining and possessing identity information, trafficking in that information or unlawfully possessing or trafficking in gov’t documents (Link)
50. Immigration and Refugee Protection Act Amendment (C-35) – to crack down on crooked immigration consultants who exploit prospective immigrants and undermine the integrity of Canada’s immigration system (Link)
51. Income Splitting for Canadian Seniors — a change to the Income Tax Act for pensioners starting in 2006 (Link)
52. Indian Residential School Settlement Agreement signed (Link)
53. Infrastructure “New Building Canada Plan” — $53 Billion to support the renewal and construction of municipal infrastructure (Link) (Link)
54. International Child & Maternal Health at U.N.– $3.5 billion committed for 2015-2020, building on Muskoka 2010 – 2015 initiative (Link) (Link) (Link)
55. Internet Spam Protection — signed December 15, 2010 to protect consumers and business from the most harmful and misleading forms of online threats (Link)
56. Jordan Free Trade Agreement — went into force on October 1st, 2012 (Link)
57. Kid’s sport tax credit — up to $500 per child (Link)
58. Kruger Mill Investment in Trois Rivieres, Quebec — Government to provide $15 million towards development of first cellulose filament production facility (Link)
59. Kuwait Foreign Investment Promotion & Protection Agreement (FIPA) — went into force February 19, 2014 (Link)
60. Land Claim Agreements with First Nations — over 800 claims concluded since the gov’t came into power (See progress chart at this Link)
61. Latvia Foreign Investment Promotion & Protection Agreement (FIPA) — went into force November 24, 2011 (Link)
62. Manley Report — approved (Report — click for PDF file at link)
63. Mental Health Commission of Canada — established and incorporated as a non-profit corporation in March of 2007 (Link)
64. Mission Against ISIL extended March 30, 2015 — to aid the people of Iraq and Syria (Link)
65. Missing Persons DNA Index — $8.1 million allocated to develop, over 5 years, help matching missing persons to their families (Link)
66. Northern Regional Development Economic Agency — announced by Prime Minister Stephen Harper on Tuesday, August 18th, 2009 in Iqaluit, Nunavut (Link)
67. Nunavik Inuit Land Claims — Agreement (Link)
68. Offshore Health & Safety Act — Bill C-5 to implement Newfoundland and Nova Scotia Atlantic offshore accord with Royal Assent June 19, 2014 (Link)
69. Ombudsman for Victims of Crime — Established (Link)
70. On-reserve schools grant of $500 million — in 2014 to be available from investment of $5.8 billion Infrastructure Fund (Link)
71. Panama Free Trade Agreement — went into force on April 1st, 2013 (Link)
72. Peru – Canada Free Trade Agreement — adopted by Parliament June 18, 2009 (Link)
73. Prime Minister Harper’s speech to Israeli Parliament — on January 20, 2014 (Link)
74. Protecting Victims from Sexual Offenders — signed on December 15, 2010 to protect children against sexual predators (Link)
75. Public transit tax credits (Link)
76. Red Tape Reduction Act — passed in 2014 to make sure the One-for-One rule in law (Link)
77. Research Excellence Fund for post-secondary institutions — $1.5 billion competitively available that results in long-term economic advantages for Canada (Link)
78. Romania Foreign Investment Promotion & Protection Agreement (FIPA) — went into effect November 23rd, 2011 (Link)
79. Rotary Foundation Polio Eradication Award — in 2014 to PM Harper for the millions the Conservative gov’t has contributed to eradicate the disease (Link)
80. Rouge National Urban Park Act –– enacting and enlarging the Rouge National Urban Park in Pickering and Uxbridge, Ontario (Link)
81. Safe Streets & Communities Act — passed March June 13, 2012 to protect children and communities against terrorism (Link) (Link)
82. Self-employ Fairness Act — (Bill C-56) — provides special benefits to the self employed on a volunteer basis (Link)
83. Slovak Republic Foreign Investment Promotion & Protection Agreement (FIPA) — went into effect March 14, 2012 (Link)
84. Small Business Tax reduction — through a Job Credit to lower EI premiums (Link)
85. Small Craft Harbours Improvement Fund — provides an investment of $10.6 million (Link)
86. Softwood Lumber Agreement (Bill C-24) (Link)
87. South Korea Free Trade Agreement Signed on September 22, 2014 — 1st Asia Pacific Agreement with final legislative steps for full implementation on November 26, 2014 (Link) (Link)
88. Tanzania Government Foreign Investment Promotion & Protection Agreement (FIPA) — went into effect December 9th, 2013 (Link)
89. Tax cuts made 160 Times — since the Conservatives took office in 2006 (Link)
90. Tax Free Savings Account with an initial annual limit of $5500.00 — which was raised to $10,000 in April 2015 budget (Link) (Link)
91. Taxpayers Bill of Rights (Link)
92. Taxpayers Ombudsman (Link)
93. Temporary Foreign Workers Program — reforms made so that Canadians are hired first (Link)
94. Ukrainian & Eastern European immigrants — Gov’t to distribute $10 million to educate Canadians about the internment in Canadian work camps during WWI (Link)
95. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko invited to speak in House of Commons — indicating PM Harper`s full support of the Ukrainian people (Link)
96. UN Global Fund contribution for mothers, newborns and young children — $540 million pledged for 2015-2020 by PM Harper and added to the $1.5 billion already promised at the G8 summit in Muskoka and G20 in Toronto, it is the largest contribution ever made by Canada to an international health institution (Link) A further commitment was made in 2014 for the 2015-2020 period for $3.5 billion.
97. Universal Child Care Benefit — in 2006 $1,200.00 per year for every child under age six (Link)
98. Universal Child Care Benefit Enhancement — effective January 1st, 2015, beginning July 1st, 2015, parents will receive $160.00 per child per month up to age six and $60.00 for each child aged 6 to 17 (Link) (Link) (Link)
99. Victims Bill of Rights — Bill C-32 passed on June 18th, 2014 — (Link) (Link)
100. White Collar Crime Act — Bill C-21 was reintroduced after the May 2, 2011 federal election and became law on November 1, 2011 (Link)

[kelownabomberfan]

It's a tough question, isn't it? Jobs versus human rights issues..

But one thing it isn't, is....a laughing matter.

If you honestly care about Saudi Arabia and aren't just trying to make political hay, you must really hate the UN now for making the Saudis the head of the human rights council. Cry about Canada selling them military gear all you want, but then you also should be protesting against the corrupt scumbags that run the UN. The IPCC is a complete corrupt joke.

[kelownabomberfan]

I agree that you're both ridiculous at times.

 

 

[Mr Dee]

Speaking of democracy & the Wheatboard, didn't the Conservatives change the law so farmers didn't get a vote on the change? Or am I "misremembering" that? I can't find a story about it, but I seem to remember it being a thing.

Maybe you're referring to the board being stacked with sell-friendly officers...I'm looking for that now.

OR...both

 

"Since coming to power in 2006, the Harper government has waged an all-out war on the Wheat Board as a public enterprise, purging its farmer directors and replacing them with government appointees, overturning legislation in place for decades, refusing to recognize the vote of its farmer members, and putting the organization on the road to complete privatization."

 

- 250 News April 2015

[Rich]

What I find the most interesting is that Mr Dee lists the disbanding of the Wheat Board as a criticism of Harper while it is #16 on the list of accomplishments that TUP posted.

 

A lot is about perspective and spin.

 

People need to research and educate themselves on these issues.  Take both sides of the story and not just the left and right slant on it.

 

Which I think is somewhat done in this thread.

[The Unknown Poster]

Absolutely. Very difficult for people to change their mind.

I think what entrenches people is the cheap shots. No one party can be all things to all people. We know that. If you vote NDP and they win you know they will do some stupid things. And same for the liberals and cons.

But the sort of hyperbole and stuff puts people on the defensice so they defend their position

Which was my point on the wheat board. At least two sides to every debate.

Ive voted for linerals and cons and very close to voting NDP. I like to think I'm open minded. Just this time, nothing has changed my mind yet. If the liberals had someone not

JT as leader they would have had a better chance of getting my vote though.

[HardCoreBlue]

What I find the most interesting is that Mr Dee lists the disbanding of the Wheat Board as a criticism of Harper while it is #16 on the list of accomplishments that TUP posted.

 

A lot is about perspective and spin.

 

People need to research and educate themselves on these issues.  Take both sides of the story and not just the left and right slant on it.

 

Which I think is somewhat done in this thread.

Holy, you're on fire today, well said.

[HardCoreBlue]

Speaking of democracy & the Wheatboard, didn't the Conservatives change the law so farmers didn't get a vote on the change? Or am I "misremembering" that? I can't find a story about it, but I seem to remember it being a thing.

How does it feel saying that? I'm going to use this line with my wife tonight.

[kelownabomberfan]

Absolutely. Very difficult for people to change their mind.

I think what entrenches people is the cheap shots. No one party can be all things to all people. We know that. If you vote NDP and they win you know they will do some stupid things. And same for the liberals and cons.

But the sort of hyperbole and stuff puts people on the defensice so they defend their position

Which was my point on the wheat board. At least two sides to every debate.

Ive voted for linerals and cons and very close to voting NDP. I like to think I'm open minded. Just this time, nothing has changed my mind yet. If the liberals had someone not

JT as leader they would have had a better chance of getting my vote though.

 

I've voted Liberals in the past under Paul Martin when I thought the Alliance/PC merger had created too far a right wing party.  Then Stephane Dion moved the Liberals to the left from the center, and Harper moved the Conservatives over to the center right, and because the Liberals vacated that space, the Conservatives keep winning.  As of today the Conservatives are only 42 seats from a majority.  If the NDP keep imploding, then they will keep moving up.  I thought it was a strategically dumb thing to say by both Trudeau and Mulcair that they would immediately bring down a Conservative minority government.  Just idiocy.  So now if I don't want another election in six months, I basically have to vote Conservative.  Just ridiculous.  I actually wouldn't mind a Conservative minority, and the Harper to step down.  Now that's probably not going to happen if the Conservatives get another majority.

[Mark H.]

We farm, here's my take on the wheat board:

1. It handled only spring wheat and little bit of malting barley. All other crops were marketed without the aid of a board. Canola, winter wheat, oats, beans et al

2. The board existed only in the prairie provinces, all other farmers were exempt from the act.

3. Australia had removed their wheat board with very few Ill effects

4. The wheat board didn't actually own any infrastructure. Because they had a monopoly, they didn't have to; no one else could touch spring wheat.

5. Farmers with some entrepreneurial spirit (eg. a flour mill) had to sell their wheat to the board and then buy it back. The wheat never actually left their farm.

[Fatty Liver]

 

Speaking of democracy & the Wheatboard, didn't the Conservatives change the law so farmers didn't get a vote on the change? Or am I "misremembering" that? I can't find a story about it, but I seem to remember it being a thing.

How does it feel saying that? I'm going to use this line with my wife tonight.

 

 

As in, "sorry honey, I misremembered that you told me no, 47 nights in a row".

[The Unknown Poster]

CBC

Slowly but surely, the Conservatives have inched up in the polls, putting them in the best position they have held since this long campaign began to win the most seats on election night.

The CBC Poll Tracker shows the Conservatives holding a modest lead over the Liberals, with 32.5 per cent support against 30.4 per cent for the Liberals. The New Democrats sit in third with 27.2 per cent of the vote.

With the currently projected levels of support countrywide, the Conservatives would win between 115 and 159 seats, with the Liberals taking 79 to 122 seats and the NDP winning between 88 and 112 seats. The Bloc could take between zero and two seats, and the Greens one.

This gives the Tories a significant edge in the seat count, but still puts them below the 170 seats needed to form a majority government. This is a more important number for the Conservatives to reach than the other parties, considering that both Justin Trudeau and Tom Mulcair have said they would not support a minority Conservative government.

[kelownabomberfan]

This is a more important number for the Conservatives to reach than the other parties, considering that both Justin Trudeau and Tom Mulcair have said they would not support a minority Conservative government.

 

I've never accused Justin or Tommy the Commie of being very bright, but this was probably one of the dumbest moves either of them could have made.  They essentially are putting a gun to voters heads.  If they were hoping to pressure voters into choosing the NDP or Liberals instead of the Cons, this move sure has back-fired.  How about respecting the Canadian people?  If they vote in a Conservative minority, instead of being giant jack-asses, try and work within that construct, instead of being giant man-babies and stating that they won't respect it.  What idiots. This above all else really shows to me Justin just isn't ready.  And I hope the voters make both of these boneheads pay.

 

EDIT - on Monday the audience at the debate actually chortled when the moderator introduced the visual of Justin sitting in a room with Putin.  They giggled because Putin would just laugh and say "This man-child is who Canada sends me?  What is wrong with this country?"

[The Unknown Poster]

Yeah I saw some chatter about the audience laughing at JT. How can anyone take this guy seriously.

And I agree about the bonehead move to basically announce they would force another election. I guess the plan was the opposition was ahead and felt the gun to the head would force voters to vote for them. Now the cons

Are leading it might have the opposite effect.

If the trend continues Id expect to see harper appeal to voters to return them to majority at some point.

[kelownabomberfan]

If the trend continues Id expect to see harper appeal to voters to return them to majority at some point.

 

I think that Justin is going to fold and retract his statement about not working with Harper.  Let Mulcair ride that stupid train right into the sun.

[The Unknown Poster]

 

If the trend continues Id expect to see harper appeal to voters to return them to majority at some point.

 

I think that Justin is going to fold and retract his statement about not working with Harper.  Let Mulcair ride that stupid train right into the sun.

 

Imagine a scenario where shortly before the election, the Cons are in a fairly comfortable lead, not quite majority but within striking distance.  Harper appeals to the public to return them to majority and avoid another immediate election.  Trudeau responds by saying well wait, we would work with the government to avoid another costly election the people dont want.  Harper replies but we wouldnt work with you.  Wins majority. 

 

Well, one can dream anyway. 

[sweep the leg]

The Conservatives began their climb when they started appealing to racists in Quebec. The niqab issue will win them the election b/c a lot of people are scared of muslims and Harper is doing what he can to stoke that fear.

 

To date there have been two women who were refused the oath of citizenship b/c of a niqab, but the Conservatives have been able to turn this into a major issue. One sued the gov't and has won, twice. Harper will also lose at the Supreme Court...again. But it doesn't matter b/c by then he will be the pm again.

[kcin94]

The Conservatives began their climb when they started appealing to racists in Quebec. The niqab issue will win them the election b/c a lot of people are scared of muslims and Harper is doing what he can to stoke that fear.

 

To date there have been two women who were refused the oath of citizenship b/c of a niqab, but the Conservatives have been able to turn this into a major issue. One sued the gov't and has won, twice. Harper will also lose at the Supreme Court...again. But it doesn't matter b/c by then he will be the pm again.

 

Like the 82% of Canadians who agree with the ban.

By the way, it's been mostly the Bloc taking those votes, not the conservatives. The conservatives have taken some, but not most.

[The Unknown Poster]

 

The Conservatives began their climb when they started appealing to racists in Quebec. The niqab issue will win them the election b/c a lot of people are scared of muslims and Harper is doing what he can to stoke that fear.

 

To date there have been two women who were refused the oath of citizenship b/c of a niqab, but the Conservatives have been able to turn this into a major issue. One sued the gov't and has won, twice. Harper will also lose at the Supreme Court...again. But it doesn't matter b/c by then he will be the pm again.

 

Like the 82% of Canadians who agree with the ban.

By the way, it's been mostly the Bloc taking those votes, not the conservatives. The conservatives have taken some, but not most.

 

Those 82% are all racists.  Well if you are Anti-Harper they are. 

 

The fact its 2 people isnt the issue.  The fact its important to a majority of Canadians is.  The fact it went to court made it visible.  And the fact is, The Conservatives are correct.

 

Unless I missed the lawsuit about uncovering your face to get a DL or a passport photo..or go into a bar for crying out loud. 

 

If someone wants to adhere to a mysognistic thing, an anti-woman thing, they can do that.  Walk around.  Be in your home.  Go to McD's.  But citizenship oath?  if you value this county and its ideals and morals and standards, you take off your ******* veil and say it.

[sweep the leg]

 

The fact its 2 people isnt the issue.  The fact its important to a majority of Canadians is.  The fact it went to court made it visible.  And the fact is, The Conservatives are correct.

 

If someone wants to adhere to a mysognistic thing, an anti-woman thing, they can do that.  Walk around.  Be in your home.  Go to McD's.  But citizenship oath?  if you value this county and its ideals and morals and standards, you take off your ******* veil and say it.

 

If they were correct, they wouldn't keep losing in court.

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/theres-a-simple-solution-to-niqabs-and-oath-swearing-but-harper-wont-allow-it/article26611044/

 

"Women like Zunera Ishaq needn’t feel obliged to wear their veils while swearing the citizenship oath. Religious freedoms can be respected by simply allowing them to take the oath in a room where no men are present. In that case, exposing their faces would not conflict with their religious values.

 

This is what the law calls a “reasonable accommodation,” a gesture that harms no one but allows affected individuals to respect their beliefs. Ms. Ishaq has shown flexibility, removing her veil for identification purposes, her driver’s licence photo and at airport security. But the Tories would have the country in an uproar because Ms. Ishaq drew the line at exposing her face yet again in a room full of male strangers when there is no practical reason to require it."

[kcin94]

 

If they were correct, they wouldn't keep losing in court.

 

 

So if a law is a law, we can't think it is wrong.

 

If so, why does Trudeau, Muclair and May want to legalize marijuna. It's against the law. All current laws must be right, therefore they must be wrong.

[sweep the leg]

 

 

If they were correct, they wouldn't keep losing in court.

 

 

So if a law is a law, we can't think it is wrong.

 

If so, why does Trudeau, Muclair and May want to legalize marijuna. It's against the law. All current laws must be right, therefore they must be wrong.

You can think everything is wrong if you're so inclined. TUP's pronouncement of it as fact that it's correct was inaccurate.

 

If the Liberals win the election and attempt to legalize pot, only to be rejected in court and again in appeal, then yes, they'll be wrong about being able to legalize it.