The Unknown Poster Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 15 hours ago, 17to85 said: He can write, just a narrow scope of things and since he really went heavy into the pot he started doing some weird stuff. I think he can write like a million high school creative writing class students can write. Even his best films are really rough and amateurish in many ways. He's definitely a guy who is vastly over-rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 9 hours ago, 17to85 said: I am curious to check it out but the first war was a bit light on story anyway, I would much rather see a movie focussed on Arthas cause that's a good story I'm new to the whole Warcraft Lore, other then playing the WoW game. So the one negative thing I can say about the movie was that I felt a bit confused at times, as they kind of just throw you into the fray without knowing any backstory, which I read about afterwards. So I was able to get what was going on. If he can continue doing these movies, I'm sure they'll get to Arthas and how he became the Lich King eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 I'm a Kevin Smith fan for sure. His Canadian Trilogy (Tusk/Yoga Hosers/Moose Jaws) is really ******* weird, and clearly something that required a lot of weed to create, but his other stuff is great. I just watched Chasing Amy for the first time this weekend and I get why people like it, but Clerks, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob, Clerks 2 and Zac and Miri are absolutely my favourites by far. Love those flicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: I think he can write like a million high school creative writing class students can write. Even his best films are really rough and amateurish in many ways. He's definitely a guy who is vastly over-rated. Don't confuse writing with directing though, as a director yeah he's got a lot of issues and he admits that himself, but as far as writing goes he's solid. It's a niche thing he does but that doesn't affect the overall quality of it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Logan007 said: I'm new to the whole Warcraft Lore, other then playing the WoW game. So the one negative thing I can say about the movie was that I felt a bit confused at times, as they kind of just throw you into the fray without knowing any backstory, which I read about afterwards. So I was able to get what was going on. If he can continue doing these movies, I'm sure they'll get to Arthas and how he became the Lich King eventually. You can find most of the lore in the universe just through some digging in WoW anyway but yeah the bulk of that comes from Warcraft 3 (which was made the way it was with the intent of setting up WoW so it makes sense) The first game really was just Orcs vs. Humans, the extent of the story was basically orcs are coming through the portal and invading we have to stop them or alternately we're orcs, let's conquer this world. Everything else in the lore they added after the fact. I've heard plenty of people say they enjoyed the movie and lots say it was terrible, the most general consensus seems to be that it's a fine movie and the CGI is quite well done but the first act has a lot of pacing problems where too much is thrown at you too quickly. So I'll probably check it out at some point, hooray for going to a theatre by yourself cause absolutely no one else that I know would possibly be interested in seeing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 28 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Don't confuse writing with directing though, as a director yeah he's got a lot of issues and he admits that himself, but as far as writing goes he's solid. It's a niche thing he does but that doesn't affect the overall quality of it either. Im not. His writing is very rough and amateurish. He occasionally hits on an idea that allows for an easier writing gig. Personally, my favorites are Chasing Amy (which is a really great move but also has some rough moments) and Zack & Miri. The rest are garbage. To each his own though! I guess his better films are helped in large part due to having better actors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 39 minutes ago, 17to85 said: You can find most of the lore in the universe just through some digging in WoW anyway but yeah the bulk of that comes from Warcraft 3 (which was made the way it was with the intent of setting up WoW so it makes sense) The first game really was just Orcs vs. Humans, the extent of the story was basically orcs are coming through the portal and invading we have to stop them or alternately we're orcs, let's conquer this world. Everything else in the lore they added after the fact. I've heard plenty of people say they enjoyed the movie and lots say it was terrible, the most general consensus seems to be that it's a fine movie and the CGI is quite well done but the first act has a lot of pacing problems where too much is thrown at you too quickly. So I'll probably check it out at some point, hooray for going to a theatre by yourself cause absolutely no one else that I know would possibly be interested in seeing it. Yes, that's it exactly. It felt like too much was thrown at me at once right at the beginning. Not enough of an explanation. I think they could have fixed that with a better montage at the beginning kind of going over what was happening and what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: Im not. His writing is very rough and amateurish. He occasionally hits on an idea that allows for an easier writing gig. Personally, my favorites are Chasing Amy (which is a really great move but also has some rough moments) and Zack & Miri. The rest are garbage. To each his own though! I guess his better films are helped in large part due to having better actors. Chasing Amy isn't all that great anyway, Clerks is rough because it was done on a shoe string budget but it's a pretty good film regardless and clerks 2 is a favourite as well. Jay and Silent Bob strike back never fails to make me laugh, same with Zack and Miri, Dogma also. It's not deep stuff and the writing is done in a certain way to facilitate back and forth dialogue but that's his thing and if you don't like it that's fine but it doesn't make it bad writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Just now, 17to85 said: Chasing Amy isn't all that great anyway, Clerks is rough because it was done on a shoe string budget but it's a pretty good film regardless and clerks 2 is a favourite as well. Jay and Silent Bob strike back never fails to make me laugh, same with Zack and Miri, Dogma also. It's not deep stuff and the writing is done in a certain way to facilitate back and forth dialogue but that's his thing and if you don't like it that's fine but it doesn't make it bad writing. Opinions differ ofcourse. I thought Clerks 1 & 2 were both terrible. Its not difficult to write really offensive stuff for shock value. Kevin Smith just strikes me as a guy who does that. Like a hack comedian who rattles off racist or offensive jokes. Anyone can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 In Clerks, you gotta love that opening shot of Dante falling out of the closet. No explanation, just a cold open of a guy tumbling out of a closet to answer a phone call from his ******* friend. And the rooftop hockey game is inspired. The rest of it is pretty whatever tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 See, it's the dialogue that does it for me....the dialogue in Kevin Smith movies is very real to me. While I'm the farthest thing from a comic book/star wars nerd, the way they have those conversations feels extremely real to me. I suppose it's a personal thing, but the "type of humour" Smitty goes for, is definitely my kinda humour. When he teamed up with the Judd Apatow crew for Zac n Miri, it was the meeting of two of my favourite worlds. Loved it...(*note*: Aside from the normally-amazing Craig Robinson's insipid "Love...ain't it grand..." line at the end) Brandon Blue&Gold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 24 minutes ago, Noeller said: See, it's the dialogue that does it for me....the dialogue in Kevin Smith movies is very real to me. While I'm the farthest thing from a comic book/star wars nerd, the way they have those conversations feels extremely real to me. I suppose it's a personal thing, but the "type of humour" Smitty goes for, is definitely my kinda humour. When he teamed up with the Judd Apatow crew for Zac n Miri, it was the meeting of two of my favourite worlds. Loved it...(*note*: Aside from the normally-amazing Craig Robinson's insipid "Love...ain't it grand..." line at the end) But you gotta give it to him for the response to "if you could do it all over again?" "I'd live by myself and jerk off" Brandon Blue&Gold and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Absolutely saved it......because, again, Kevin Smith is a quality write and Craig Robinson is ******* hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Posts like the last few that shows this site needs a DISLIKE button! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 18 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: Posts like the last few that shows this site needs a DISLIKE button! ;-) LOL I don't know Noeller. Some of the dialogue seems pretty far off to me depending which movie. Like Mallrats was out in left field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 So Mall Rats will now be a ten episode tv series... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Brandon said: So Mall Rats will now be a ten episode tv series... Cant be any worse than the awful film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 They're calling the TV Show "Mall Brats"...I'm looking forward to it. Seems Smitty has a taste for the small screen now, after doing some work for "The Shirtless Boy Network"'s The Flash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 32 minutes ago, Noeller said: They're calling the TV Show "Mall Brats"...I'm looking forward to it. Seems Smitty has a taste for the small screen now, after doing some work for "The Shirtless Boy Network"'s The Flash... I don't know what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 it's a thing from his live podcast taping "Jay And Silent Bob Get Old"....we went to a live taping in Calgary that they did a few weeks ago. Was pretty funny. It's what him and Mewes call The WB..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Ah ok. Didn't know they ever did a podcasts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 when clerks was converted to a cartoon is wasnt very good. I dont have high hopes for a mall rats spin off show. its just been too long since the movie, and imo the movie at the time was a very relatable view on teenage life (crashing the mall) I dont think kids do that as much these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 12 minutes ago, Logan007 said: Ah ok. Didn't know they ever did a podcasts actually has a couple I think....one I think is called SMODCast or something, and one is the JNSBGO one, but yeah, he's pretty active in all that. Also hosts that "Comic Book Men" show on AMC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Noeller said: actually has a couple I think....one I think is called SMODCast or something, and one is the JNSBGO one, but yeah, he's pretty active in all that. Also hosts that "Comic Book Men" show on AMC... Right, I knew about the YouTube channel, although I never watch it because he just over acts way too much. But I do like watching him every once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Beverly Hills Cop 4 on it's way. I don't even know what to think about this as the last one sucked. If Eddie can channel his old self in this movie, I'm all for it. http://collider.com/beverly-hills-cop-4-eddie-murphy-adil-el-arbi-bilall-fallah/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=collidersocial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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