Brandon Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 The guys were playing very soft..missing tackles also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I keep reading about the adjustments that Etch made, but no one is talking about which adjustments he made. Honest question here... what adjustments did you see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I keep reading about the adjustments that Etch made, but no one is talking about which adjustments he made. Honest question here... what adjustments did you see? In the first Q, we had crazy DL rush/blitz schemes and left the flats open for Walker to exploit or if we didn't stop him in the backfield, run for 10-15 yards... classic Etch. After that didn't work, he retreated to a more CFL zone D. We sent four DL almost all game with the occasional safety or LB blitz. Seemed like Wild (for the most part) took a lot more of a 'contain' role than 'all or nothing' pressure. I think he gambled hard on getting to Burris in the 1st Q, it didn't work and, thankfully, he recognized that. Later in the game, he started getting a bit Etch again but by that time, the D was rolling and Walker was off his game. Just my opinion of course... haven't rewatched the game... not that I can thanks to TSN... Atomic and TBURGESS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I keep reading about the adjustments that Etch made, but no one is talking about which adjustments he made. Honest question here... what adjustments did you see? In the first Q, we had crazy DL rush/blitz schemes and left the flats open for Walker to exploit or if we didn't stop him in the backfield, run for 10-15 yards... classic Etch. After that didn't work, he retreated to a more CFL zone D. We sent four DL almost all game with the occasional safety or LB blitz. Seemed like Wild (for the most part) took a lot more of a 'contain' role than 'all or nothing' pressure. I think he gambled hard on getting to Burris in the 1st Q, it didn't work and, thankfully, he recognized that. Later in the game, he started getting a bit Etch again but by that time, the D was rolling and Walker was off his game. Just my opinion of course... haven't rewatched the game... not that I can thanks to TSN... Yeah from what I could see on TV the first quarter they were going all or nothing and when they got burned they seemed to tone it down a lot and make sure there were guys in position to cover the plays to the outsides. It really is classic Etch. Went all in leaving lots of room underneath and with Walker being a speedy guy you give him room he can run. They changed things up so he didn't have as much room and predictably he started getting stopped a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 It isn't a horrible game plan if they could have actually got to Burris. Hitting him early would get him frazzled for the rest of the game. Just glad they switched away from it when it wasn't working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 To be fair, most of us would've done the exact same thing with Burris. The book on Hank is to get to him early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 It's the high risk high reward thing, but they were getting exposed with the risks and thankfully they had the sense to calm down a bit and they stopped getting burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 To me, the deep ball worked for us because the redblacks have the worst starting safety in the CFL. I said he was a liability on the long ball as Eric Fraser can't cover the ground to help out & he didn't disappoint me. He gets sucked in a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 To me, the deep ball worked for us because the redblacks have the worst starting safety in the CFL. I said he was a liability on the long ball as Eric Fraser can't cover the ground to help out & he didn't disappoint me. He gets sucked in a lot. Near the end of the game, that's one of the worst safety blitzes I've seen for a while which Willy took full advantage. If it was Milt receiving, he would have broken route, cut to the middle, put his hand up and bon voyage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 To me, the deep ball worked for us because the redblacks have the worst starting safety in the CFL. I said he was a liability on the long ball as Eric Fraser can't cover the ground to help out & he didn't disappoint me. He gets sucked in a lot. Near the end of the game, that's one of the worst safety blitzes I've seen for a while which Willy took full advantage. If it was Milt receiving, he would have broken route, cut to the middle, put his hand up and bon voyage. Oh that was just the Bomber coaches out coaching the Ottawa coaches. Ottawa clearly expected something short playing for the first down and the idea of defending deep never entered their heads, Bombers did the unexpected and went over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair GM Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I keep reading about the adjustments that Etch made, but no one is talking about which adjustments he made. Honest question here... what adjustments did you see? Floyd nailed most of it. Thought we started showing blitz and dropping back more... better deception. Saw lots of zone dogs used too, because Hank handled the overload blitzes we threw at him early very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_fanaddict Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 To me, the deep ball worked for us because the redblacks have the worst starting safety in the CFL. I said he was a liability on the long ball as Eric Fraser can't cover the ground to help out & he didn't disappoint me. He gets sucked in a lot. The Redblacks picked up Cauchy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I keep reading about the adjustments that Etch made, but no one is talking about which adjustments he made. Honest question here... what adjustments did you see? In the first Q, we had crazy DL rush/blitz schemes and left the flats open for Walker to exploit or if we didn't stop him in the backfield, run for 10-15 yards... classic Etch. After that didn't work, he retreated to a more CFL zone D. We sent four DL almost all game with the occasional safety or LB blitz. Seemed like Wild (for the most part) took a lot more of a 'contain' role than 'all or nothing' pressure. I think he gambled hard on getting to Burris in the 1st Q, it didn't work and, thankfully, he recognized that. Later in the game, he started getting a bit Etch again but by that time, the D was rolling and Walker was off his game. Just my opinion of course... haven't rewatched the game... not that I can thanks to TSN... Honestly, the thing that stood out most to me is that it looked like he stopped allowing them to isolate Bucknor in man coverage situations and he stopped sending Wild after Burris all the time. You nailed it with your assessment, imo. I don't think I saw Leggett lining up in the box as much either, because by the time he was backpedaling into position early in the game, Burris already had the ball out of his hands and Leggett wasn't there in the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 It was scary how easy Ottawa moved in the first. Rope-a-dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basslicker Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Nice to have a D CAPABLE of adjusting. After a very shaky 1st quarter, they buckled down and shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valderan_CA Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 I keep reading about the adjustments that Etch made, but no one is talking about which adjustments he made. Honest question here... what adjustments did you see? In the first Q, we had crazy DL rush/blitz schemes and left the flats open for Walker to exploit or if we didn't stop him in the backfield, run for 10-15 yards... classic Etch. After that didn't work, he retreated to a more CFL zone D. We sent four DL almost all game with the occasional safety or LB blitz. Seemed like Wild (for the most part) took a lot more of a 'contain' role than 'all or nothing' pressure. I think he gambled hard on getting to Burris in the 1st Q, it didn't work and, thankfully, he recognized that. Later in the game, he started getting a bit Etch again but by that time, the D was rolling and Walker was off his game. Just my opinion of course... haven't rewatched the game... not that I can thanks to TSN... Honestly, the thing that stood out most to me is that it looked like he stopped allowing them to isolate Bucknor in man coverage situations and he stopped sending Wild after Burris all the time. You nailed it with your assessment, imo. I don't think I saw Leggett lining up in the box as much either, because by the time he was backpedaling into position early in the game, Burris already had the ball out of his hands and Leggett wasn't there in the secondary. Definitely looked like Bucknor had a part in allowing a bunch of the yards on the first 3 td's HOWEVER - it seems like when they switched their scheme to keep him from being isolated he played very well (his positioning with support over the top was very good) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Not convinced Leggett was a whole lot better than Fraser. As for what people are faulting Fraser on for that last blitz, the commentator did suggest he had cover responsibility on Grigsby delaying out of the backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Nice to have a D CAPABLE of adjusting. After a very shaky 1st quarter, they buckled down and shut down. Nice to have an offense that can score multiple TDs in a game and dig themselves out a hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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