Alex Hall and a 2nd round pick traded to Saskatchewan for Patrick Neufeld (OL) and a 4th round pick

 

Let's see now, Rory an undrafted free agent........Jade a first round pick..........gee which one should be the stud and which the dud. Given all the screaming around here about that 2nd to 4th round swap with the Riders I can't believe anyone would even be stupid enough or brash enough to bring this comparison up unless they were just trolling.

In Calgary there's Brad Sinopoli. He was a Hec Creighton winning qb who sat on the bench for 3 seasons. He was converted to receiver this season at training camp, a position he's never played & the guy has been great. He catches everything & makes good YAC yards after each catch. We have a first round pick with 16 catches in 3 seasons & Sinipoli with just a few months of experience at receiver is outplaying Etienne.

 

This is pretty much a terrible argument. Brad Sinopoli has 33 catches for 411 yards and zero touchdowns this year. Granted that's not bad production out of a 4th or 5th option but to say he's been great is vastly overrating the guy. Despite being in a vastly inferior offense and missing games, Kohlert has one fewer catch. I accept that his numbers are better than Etienne's are this year but as I believe Mike said before, when he's actually played, he's been getting separation and making plays which in this offense is saying quite a bit. Is he incredible? No, but to praise the accomplishments of a very average Brad Sinopoli who no doubt has been put in every position to succeed and has put up no better per-game numbers than Jade is insanity.

What on earth are you basing your opinion of Jade on? What makes you think he will be adequate, let alone good?

Jade has shown that certain 'je ne sais quoi' despite his youth and his being on this team and this crappy situation.(along with all the negativity he's seen)

He can get open, he can make very nice catches and get yards after the catch.

The guy has potential.

He's been developing here and now he's being ruined here, in this program.

The thing he can't do is develop an offence to throw him the damn ball.

A functioning offence with a rotating Watson, Kohlert Etienne would do us very well.

its simply too hard to argue with people who refuse to see the forest thru the trees..

It's all about opinions here. Just because you think your forest is better than mine doesn't make it  right. or your opinion is better than anyone else who disagrees with you. We'll see how things shake out in the next year or if Etienne is even back here next season. As far as Sinopoli goes he's been playing receiver since training camp so about 16 weeks. He's had nothing given to him. He was the #4 qb & when Hufnagel requested he make the change to receiver he gave him no guarantees. Had he failed he'd have been cut. 

Etienne might have been an 'okay' pick if we had some ni depth and he could develop... Coehoorn was the real jewel in that draft lots of guys knew it

Plain and simple, it was a bad pick for the bombers

Career numbers:

 

Nate Coehoorn - 85 catches for 1,152 yards and 1 TD + 5 tackles, 7 special teams tackles

http://cfl.ca/roster/show/id/3687

 

Marco Iannuzzi - 58 catches for 634 yards and 7 TDs, 7 carries for 53 yards + 2 tackles and an INT; 24 Punt Returns + 7 KO returns

http://cfl.ca/roster/show/id/2011

 

Kito Poblah - 53 catches for 534 yards and 1 TD + 1 special teams tackle

http://cfl.ca/roster/show/id/4435

 

Jade Etienne - 20 catches for 276 yards and 2 TDs + 2 tackles

http://cfl.ca/roster/show/id/1745

 

Anthony Parker - 21 catches for 260 yards and 1 TD, 5 carries for 36 yards + 2 tackles, 8 special teams tackles and an INT; 2 punt returns + 4 KO returns

http://cfl.ca/roster/show?id=1927

 

 

My thoughts on Etienne from the 2011 Draft Guide:

Caught a lot of attention in the 2010 CIS season with a breakout year and made some big plays. Jade moved into the next tier of receivers with a lot of potential. Will have to convince decision makers that it wasn’t just a one time success story.

Career totals - 30 rec. for 743 yds with 6 TD

im actually impressed he has made 2 tackles lol.

Why do people keep suggesting Etienne would be signed by the Riders? Why would he want to sign with a team where he would be a depth player? And what makes people think the Riders would be interested in signing him?

The Riders don't have any NI receivers outside of Getzlaf and yes that includes Rob Bagg.

Our offense totally stinks this year. It will probaby turn out to be the worst offense in the club's history.

 

We have 8 passing TD's all year. Ernie Pitts once caught 5 TD passes in one frickin game.

 

You can't judge Jade's performance based on this year's offense. (But even with limited playing time he's got 2 of those 8 TD's.)

 

He's still very young. If we get a decent QB and a smart OC, I expect he'll do a lot better.

So, to use Rids' stats and TBurg's word - extrapolation, Jade is actually the leading receiver....interesting. Ha!

 

Nate Coehoorn - 85 catches for 1,152 yards

Marco Iannuzzi - 85 catches for    929 yards

Kito Poblah       - 85 catches for    856 yards

Jade Etienne    - 85 catches for  1,173 yards

Anthony Parker - 85 catches for  1,052 yards.

 

So, to use Rids' stats and TBurg's word - extrapolation, Jade is actually the leading receiver....interesting. Ha!

Nate Coehoorn - 85 catches for 1,152 yards

Marco Iannuzzi - 85 catches for 929 yards

Kito Poblah - 85 catches for 856 yards

Jade Etienne - 85 catches for 1,173 yards

Anthony Parker - 85 catches for 1,052 yards.

oh i can only imagine the rage this post is gonna incite

I think a post has to make some sort of sense before it can inspire rage

So, to use Rids' stats and TBurg's word - extrapolation, Jade is actually the leading receiver....interesting. Ha!

 

Nate Coehoorn - 85 catches for 1,152 yards

Marco Iannuzzi - 85 catches for    929 yards

Kito Poblah       - 85 catches for    856 yards

Jade Etienne    - 85 catches for  1,173 yards

Anthony Parker - 85 catches for  1,052 yards.

 

you didn't include TDs?

TDs are different, they are more specialized, specific targets, plays, preferred celebrations, that sort of thing.

 

Besides when you apply the same formula, you get fractions. Ex Jade would have 8.5 TDs, Iannuzzi 10.25 TDs

Heck, using that formula, I think I get a TD.

So, to use Rids' stats and TBurg's word - extrapolation, Jade is actually the leading receiver....interesting. Ha!

 

Nate Coehoorn - 85 catches for 1,152 yards

Marco Iannuzzi - 85 catches for    929 yards

Kito Poblah       - 85 catches for    856 yards

Jade Etienne    - 85 catches for  1,173 yards

Anthony Parker - 85 catches for  1,052 yards.

 

Congrats.  You have just proven that Jade has slightly more yards per catch than the other players. 

Why so much Jade Etienne talk in this Alex Hall thread?

 

So, to use Rids' stats and TBurg's word - extrapolation, Jade is actually the leading receiver....interesting. Ha!

 

Nate Coehoorn - 85 catches for 1,152 yards

Marco Iannuzzi - 85 catches for    929 yards

Kito Poblah       - 85 catches for    856 yards

Jade Etienne    - 85 catches for  1,173 yards

Anthony Parker - 85 catches for  1,052 yards.

 

Congrats.  You have just proven that Jade has slightly more yards per catch than the other players. 

 

Fantastic, isn't it?

A new word, a new proof, a new hope for a quality receiver going forward.

 

And we owe it all to you.

Why so much Jade Etienne talk in this Alex Hall thread?

 

We have to talk about something...

Who cares about Hall?? He's soooo last week.

I wonder if peach will get a shot in halls spot

Pretty sure Peach and Griggs will be playing in Hall's old spot this week.

I wonder if peach will get a shot in halls spot

There was at least 2 articles in the FP this week about it...

Gee thanks for providing a link and not a snotty answer

Saw in tonites fp its griggs

 

Why do people keep suggesting Etienne would be signed by the Riders? Why would he want to sign with a team where he would be a depth player? And what makes people think the Riders would be interested in signing him?

The Riders don't have any NI receivers outside of Getzlaf and yes that includes Rob Bagg.

 

Before Labatte signed with the Riders I don't recall any talk about losing Saskatchewan-born players to the Riders. Now people talk (some in jest and some seriously) that any player who is even related to someone in Saskatchewan should not be taken or won't  re-sign. It gets rather ridiculous at time.

 

 

Why do people keep suggesting Etienne would be signed by the Riders? Why would he want to sign with a team where he would be a depth player? And what makes people think the Riders would be interested in signing him?

The Riders don't have any NI receivers outside of Getzlaf and yes that includes Rob Bagg.

 

Before Labatte signed with the Riders I don't recall any talk about losing Saskatchewan-born players to the Riders. Now people talk (some in jest and some seriously) that any player who is even related to someone in Saskatchewan should not be taken or won't  re-sign. It gets rather ridiculous at time.

 

The subject has been raised here & elsewhere. I'm surprised that you never heard this before.

You don't think for a minute that Kohert and Etienne as pending FAs would not go back to play at home in a minute?

Three reasons players choose where to play, money,geography and playtime.