Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread

[Booch]

6 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Hogan was the RB coach for the past 3 seasons. And Jake no doubt has extensive knowledge about DL play.

sure didnt show it anytime in his career tho....what's he gonna teach any vet DL guy...or nw guy...absolutely nothing really....

1 minute ago, CodyT said:

This seems like the way the organization would handle things of this matter. At least they are addressing it.

just shows they still cant/wont make the real tough decisions....

[GCn20]

4 minutes ago, Booch said:

sure didnt show it anytime in his career tho....what's he gonna teach any vet DL guy...or nw guy...absolutely nothing really....

just shows they still cant/wont make the real tough decisions....

He can't be as bad as Patterson was and if it takes him off the field it's a double win. Are you seriously complaining about this? Jake is a long time veteran DL of our club and league, he has a ton he can teach. That doesn't necessarily mean he will be a good coach but excluding his chances of being one based on his playing career doesn't make sense either. Look at Ryan Dinwiddie, guy was a career backup and barely at that and is a great coach. I'm willing to give him a chance, and at the same time get rid of Patterson who was god awful.

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[Booch]

1 minute ago, GCn20 said:

He can't be as bad as Patterson was and if it takes him off the field it's a double win. Are you seriously complaining about this? Jake is a long time veteran DL of our club and league, he has a ton he can teach. That doesn't necessarily mean he will be a good coach but excluding his chances of being one based on his playing career doesn't make sense either. Look at Ryan Dinwiddie, guy was a career backup and barely at that and is a great coach. I'm willing to give him a chance, and at the same time get rid of Patterson who was god awful.

I agree if it takes him off the field I'm all for it,,,,,but to become the DL coach...piss poor decision really when we have been pretty bad there for most part last few yrs....with him being of the worst...I'm sure there were better options out there

[GCn20]

18 minutes ago, Rex_Banner said:

Good plan.   Put hogan specifically as the coach for the one area he was the most horrible at last year.   And Jake Thomas coaching.   Feels like two giant steps backwards to me, but I hope I’m wrong.   

You realize that Hogan was our RB coach before when BO had his best years right?

 

8 minutes ago, CodyT said:

This seems like the way the organization would handle things of this matter. At least they are addressing it.

I think these are great moves for our organization.

[bigg jay]

Just now, Booch said:

sure didnt show it anytime in his career tho....what's he gonna teach any vet DL guy...or nw guy...absolutely nothing really....

just shows they still cant/wont make the real tough decisions....

No consequences for failure/mediocrity.  What's Jake going to teach them - how to now get their uniform dirty? 

I wonder if the Hogan move might have been because of the salary cap? If he had a 2 year deal, they'd either have to eat his salary and still pay a replacement coach or they keep him but move him to a different job.

[Super Duper Negatron]

Keeping Hogan when it seems like he and Brady clashed last year is sort of weird. I know Brady previously raved about him, and maybe we were reading between the lines too much, but it certainly seemed as if the relationship had gone sour.

[GCn20]

5 minutes ago, Booch said:

I agree if it takes him off the field I'm all for it,,,,,but to become the DL coach...piss poor decision really when we have been pretty bad there for most part last few yrs....with him being of the worst...I'm sure there were better options out there

I agree he played badly, but that is mostly because of his own physical limitations. From all accounts through the years he was a very smart player that had physical limits. I think he might be a very good coach.

3 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Keeping Hogan when it seems like he and Brady clashed last year is sort of weird. I know Brady previously raved about him, and maybe we were reading between the lines too much, but it certainly seemed as if the relationship had gone sour.

I think that BO's problem was the play calling of Hogan, not with the man himself. Pros can make the differentiation.

4 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

No consequences for failure/mediocrity.  What's Jake going to teach them - how to now get their uniform dirty? 

I wonder if the Hogan move might have been because of the salary cap? If he had a 2 year deal, they'd either have to eat his salary and still pay a replacement coach or they keep him but move him to a different job.

Could be because Hogan was a very good RB coach for us before.

4 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

No consequences for failure/mediocrity.  What's Jake going to teach them - how to now get their uniform dirty? 

I wonder if the Hogan move might have been because of the salary cap? If he had a 2 year deal, they'd either have to eat his salary and still pay a replacement coach or they keep him but move him to a different job.

Why not give Jake a chance? What do you know of his ability to do that? Nothing. Just assumptions. No consequences of mediocrity? Tell that to the guy Jake just replaced or the demoted Hogan. They are feeling the consequences.

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[17to85]

The best players don't always make the best coaches.  It's often the less gifted guys who make tremendous coaches... so how good withh Jake Thomas be as DL coach? I don't know but it's not some immediately crucifiable since to try. 

[Noeller]

I actually laughed about the Jake-As-Coach thing just because I knew exactly what the reaction would be. So funny. 

I think he's well respected in the room and 13 years experience is definitely worth passing on to th next generation. I'm happy for the guy. 

[GCn20]

Just now, 17to85 said:

The best players don't always make the best coaches.  It's often the less gifted guys who make tremendous coaches... so how good withh Jake Thomas be as DL coach? I don't know but it's not some immediately crucifiable since to try. 

Exactly, I really don't understand the level of hate for Jake Thomas with some around here. Was he good the last few years? Nope. but it's not like he didn't try or bleed blue and gold. We are literally suggesting that the club should have cut ties with him permanently because he was too old to play well anymore and that is absolutely nuts. Some guys have gone off the deep end on the Jake Thomas hate train around here. I don't know if he will be a good coach, but I can't see any reason why he might not be. We'll see. We need to at least give him a chance.

Just now, Noeller said:

I actually laughed about the Jake-As-Coach thing just because I knew exactly what the reaction would be. So funny. 

I think he's well respected in the room and 13 years experience is definitely worth passing on to th next generation. I'm happy for the guy. 

Exactly. He stepped aside as a player and we still get the benefit of his experience and locker room worth. I can't believe people are viewing this so negatively.

[Pete Catan's Ghost]

Now, if they would name Kola as the new head of catering….indisputable. 

[GCn20]

Just now, Pete Catan's Ghost said:

Now, if they would name Kola as the new head of catering….indisputable. 

Buffet managers can make good coin and still get to eat for free...lol. Just saying in case Kola's reading.

[Booch]

I can see if a player had exceptional technical skills and technique with zero coaching experience then sure he can be valuable and pass that on and teach how to do it...he doesnt posses that tho...so how will he show guys how to execute things?...Or if a player basically shadowed for a yr like Miller ...which he basically did in his last yr on the IR and kinda got on the job tutoring before actually "on the job"....13 yrs experience in the league sure is all nice and all....but doesnt mean that right from farm to table you gonna know how to coach professional ball...

And I will say riht now if we have a dline this yr that kills it...It wont be because JT became the coach...It will be because we grabbed some legit talent...let some of the current talent loose and used a more effective scheme for majority of snaps

[Bigblue204]

19 minutes ago, Booch said:

I agree if it takes him off the field I'm all for it,,,,,but to become the DL coach...piss poor decision really when we have been pretty bad there for most part last few yrs....with him being of the worst...I'm sure there were better options out there

The GOAT has previously said he would make a horrible coach. It's often the players who couldn't that become the best coaches.

[Booch]

Just now, Bigblue204 said:

The GOAT has previously said he would make a horrible coach. It's often the players who couldn't that become the best coaches.

who's the GOAT

[Bigblue204]

2 minutes ago, Booch said:

who's the GOAT

How dare you!!!!

....but Stegall 

 

the old saying...those who can, do. Those who can't, coach.

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[Booch]

1 minute ago, Bigblue204 said:

How dare you!!!!

....but Stegall 

 

the old saying...those who can, do. Those who can't, coach.

haha.....Gotcha!

I think it's more he couldnt be bothered and was too much work....Ironic for a guy that put in the work when he played

and a bit of he knew himself thatbhis god given natural ability was why he was so good, and couldnt teach that...so why bother

[Noeller]

3 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

How dare you!!!!

....but Stegall 

 

the old saying...those who can, do. Those who can't, coach.

Actually I thought you meant DB97.... The GOAT of CFL DL, since we're actually talking about that. And he also has said no to coaching.

[GCn20]

3 minutes ago, Booch said:

I can see if a player had exceptional technical skills and technique with zero coaching experience then sure he can be valuable and pass that on and teach how to do it...he doesnt posses that tho...so how will he show guys how to execute things?...Or if a player basically shadowed for a yr like Miller ...which he basically did in his last yr on the IR and kinda got on the job tutoring before actually "on the job"....13 yrs experience in the league sure is all nice and all....but doesnt mean that right from farm to table you gonna know how to coach professional ball...

And I will say riht now if we have a dline this yr that kills it...It wont be because JT became the coach...It will be because we grabbed some legit talent...let some of the current talent loose and used a more effective scheme for majority of snaps

You are just hating for the sake of hating. None of what you are saying is anything but worst case scenaro. Tons of players have gone straight from playing into position coaches. You are suggesting he knew nothing of technique in 13 years of professional ball? Baloney. That's completely untrue. Whether or not he can teach what he know is 100% unknown. You cannot with any credibility say he will be a bad coach anymore than anyone can say he will be great at it. None of us can know that. The coaches have identified him as a potentially good coach, and this is something that has been suggested about him for many, many years by many of the players who have played with him, They have stated that JT knows the game and knows the position and was a leader out there. Why have such a hate on for JT? Did he sleep with your woman or something?

[bigg jay]

22 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

I agree he played badly, but that is mostly because of his own physical limitations. From all accounts through the years he was a very smart player that had physical limits. I think he might be a very good coach.

I think that BO's problem was the play calling of Hogan, not with the man himself. Pros can make the differentiation.

Could be because Hogan was a very good RB coach for us before.

Or having the best RB in the league made him look better than he actually is?  He certainly didn't use BO the way you would think a great RB coach might.  I'm less concerned about that move though - he's at least experienced in the role.  Hiring one of our problem players to coach (imo) our biggest weakness does not inspire confidence in me.  

[GCn20]

3 minutes ago, Booch said:

haha.....Gotcha!

I think it's more he couldnt be bothered and was too much work....Ironic for a guy that put in the work when he played

and a bit of he knew himself thatbhis god given natural ability was why he was so good, and couldnt teach that...so why bother

Stegall always said his ego would never allow him to be a good coach. He is very self aware in that regard.

[Bigblue204]

4 minutes ago, Booch said:

haha.....Gotcha!

I think it's more he couldnt be bothered and was too much work....Ironic for a guy that put in the work when he played

and a bit of he knew himself thatbhis god given natural ability was why he was so good, and couldnt teach that...so why bother

I think it was something along the lines of no one would be able to work as hard as he would want them to lol. So he just never bothered

[GCn20]

6 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Or having the best RB in the league made him look better than he actually is?  He certainly didn't use BO the way you would think a great RB coach might.  I'm less concerned about that move though - he's at least experienced in the role.  Hiring one of our problem players to coach (imo) our biggest weakness does not inspire confidence in me.  

Problem players? Why cause he aged out and he was asked to do too much at his age? I don't follow your logic here? JT executed the plan he was given to the best of his ability...how is that a problem player? As for Hogan having the best RB in the league, yes that certainly helps but he also helped develop BO into that. BO didn't enter the league as the best. You guys are literally hating on JT himself because the coach tapped him on the shoulder to go in and play and he did. I understand not liking him being on the field but you guys need to tone down the overall Jake hate. He's a 13 year retired veteran now who is taking an entry level coaching job for the only team he ever played for. Why are you inventing narrative about this?

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[Blue In BC]

18 hours ago, Mark H. said:

OL: Randolph, Lofton, Bryant, Wallace, - they need to sign a Canadian centre or guard in free agency. As long as BO is healthy, they need to start 3 Americans on the OL

QB: time to move on from Streveler. Make sure ZC knows how to pee and see who else you can sign as a backup. Wilson can run short yardage.

RB: don't assume BO will play the entire season. Recruit an entry level American for a backup and use him on teams or pay him extra to stay on the PR. 

DL: Cam Lawson, Woodbey, Jefferson (maybe), new faces needed - I would sign a decent DT in FA

DB: I would keep the secondary intact

Rec: scout for some new faces in the receiving corps - Demski, Wilson, are a good start

LB: I would sign a decent, experienced MLB in free agency. Move Kramdi to safety or field corner and add new faces at WIL and SAM

Bin ich bindich?

(Am I crazy?)

Is Lofton better than Randolph? IDK, maybe he is but he's a free agent coming off a season ending injury. I don't know when he'll be healthy to play or if he can attend TC. I wasn't expecting him back considering all the import OL signed recently.

Adding an import RB on the AR costs us a DI and that is not likely unless he's the returner ( Logan if Vaval doesn't return ). We could add one on the PR as well. We haven't added any import RB since the end of the season. That may be telling whether we stick with a Canadian back up as the primary in game situation.

We missed adding Sankey but his SMS might have been expensive. Not sure how the Lions managed that. 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Blue In BC

[HardCoreBlue]

6 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

I think it was something along the lines of no one would be able to work as hard as he would want them to lol. So he just never bothered

There's a reason why he remains the GOAT. He's right where he needs to be. 🙂