Bombers @ Birds: ESF GDT

[GCn20]

2 hours ago, Tracker said:

For those advocating that O'Shea ought to be given another year or two to fix what is wrong with the team: O'Shea had viable alternatives sitting on the bench all year and refused to use them except in the last game for a bit. He has had three consecutive years of declining performances and has made only token changes. IMO. he has clearly shown that he is incapable of change. If nothing changes, then nothing changes.

What viable alternatives. Thats BS. Top to bottom our roster got as far as it was going to. Just BS around here suggesting we were sitting on a winning roster. Knute Rockne or Bud Grant wouldn't have gotten this team anywhere. 

Now the mob will come for me saying I'm an MOS apologist. Nope..I think it's time we move on but I'm not going to say that based on some fictional narrative.

The players that came off the bench last week and excelled just got to town with the exception of Bailey.

6 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

I mean we did just overhaul  our scouting department less than a year ago (Danny Mac aside).  We hired 3 new guys (Deslauriers, Jauch &  Sunderland) in January to replace Goveia & Penn so I could see them being kept on. 

They shouldn't is my point. At least not all of them

Edited 9 hours ago by GCn20

[BomberBall.]

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

So question.... they kept Bailey on, did he take any snaps during the game?

I was wondering this during the game.  I never saw him.

[wbbfan]

20 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

What viable alternatives. Thats BS. Top to bottom our roster got as far as it was going to. Just BS around here suggesting we were sitting on a winning roster. Knute Rockne or Bud Grant wouldn't have gotten this team anywhere. 

Now the mob will come for me saying I'm an MOS apologist. Nope..I think it's time we move on but I'm not going to say that based on some fictional narrative.

The players that came off the bench last week and excelled just got to town with the exception of Bailey.

They shouldn't is my point. At least not all of them

Do you think we win/contend if we made the following changes? 

We started 9 canadians, if we take thomas off the ar and lawson backs up adams/woods. Then you take lawson jr off for griffin. Kola (who had an absolutely brutal game not just blocking but snapping) off the ar vanterpool on at G eli at C. Nat imp wj, and dress either jenkins/jaworski for a pick em of imp lbers/dbs lets say ayers. 

With that line up the als aren’t getting gaps they can drive a truck through, or 5+ second pockets. We get solid consistent pressure instead, and when we got pressure on davis by play design we did much better on D. 

Imo, that line up doesn’t fall multiple majors behind in the first half. We win, and stand a very good chance vs hamilton. 

4 minutes ago, BomberBall. said:

I was wondering this during the game.  I never saw him.

yes 5 snaps maybe. I had him making 2 big stops at the line on runs, but they ended up as gang tackles and credit went elsewhere. I know jones cleaned up one tackle i think kyrie the other. They got the stats (this happens a lot especially on the road) 

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45 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

They shouldn't is my point. At least not all of them

Ok which one should be let go, in your opinion?

I think it's a bit too early to judge their work.  It's not their fault that the cupboard was bare when they showed up.  We should have had more 2nd year guys ready to step up this season. 

We have guys like Jenkins and Jaworski that look promising for next year but other than maybe Person, I can't think of anyone from last season who was in that position this year.  That all falls on Danny Mac and the previous scouting staff.

[GCn20]

36 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Ok which one should be let go, in your opinion?

I think it's a bit too early to judge their work.  It's not their fault that the cupboard was bare when they showed up.  We should have had more 2nd year guys ready to step up this season. 

We have guys like Jenkins and Jaworski that look promising for next year but other than maybe Person, I can't think of anyone from last season who was in that position this year.  That all falls on Danny Mac and the previous scouting staff.

Not disagreeing but talent was lacking this year too

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

Do you think we win/contend if we made the following changes? 

We started 9 canadians, if we take thomas off the ar and lawson backs up adams/woods. Then you take lawson jr off for griffin. Kola (who had an absolutely brutal game not just blocking but snapping) off the ar vanterpool on at G eli at C. Nat imp wj, and dress either jenkins/jaworski for a pick em of imp lbers/dbs lets say ayers. 

With that line up the als aren’t getting gaps they can drive a truck through, or 5+ second pockets. We get solid consistent pressure instead, and when we got pressure on davis by play design we did much better on D. 

Imo, that line up doesn’t fall multiple majors behind in the first half. We win, and stand a very good chance vs hamilton. 

yes 5 snaps maybe. I had him making 2 big stops at the line on runs, but they ended up as gang tackles and credit went elsewhere. I know jones cleaned up one tackle i think kyrie the other. They got the stats (this happens a lot especially on the road) 

No. I don't think we were a serious contender no matter what we do with our roster. I thought that my opinion on this was pretty clear

[wbbfan]

12 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Not disagreeing but talent was lacking this year too

No. I don't think we were a serious contender no matter what we do with our roster. I thought that my opinion on this was pretty clear

So you don’t think we would’ve beat montreal with those changes, or been in it vs hamilton? 

Idk how you can look at this game and say lawson, thomas, kola off for griffin, imp, imp/eli doesn’t cover the spread when we took the lead as is. 

Hard to believe that take, especially with the lack of pressure and kolas wild snaps alone.