3 turds pls ch The strevolution will not be televised

[Goalie]

4 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Plus we saw streveler run over a guy last night. His issue is the explosion... but he's still a tough SOB. 

Both our qbs look like garbage and a lot of it is what's going on on the rest of the offense. 

Streveler looked like this before tho. This has been his cfl career with a couple of anomaly games at this point where he looks like a real QB but for the most part minus the explosion he is what he’s always been. I’m not sure how ppl can watch that game last night and think yup that’s a cfl qb. The case could be made we’d have been better off if he didn’t throw one pass. 

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[Booch]

1 minute ago, Goalie said:

I think if ppl want to see a healthy Streveler they should shut him down and put him on the IR until he can run again. Cuz I don’t see how playing on it can help.  Ppl spent days going on about Schoen playing on an ACL and all this but Strev plays through injuries it sounds like and seems like that’s ok. Shut him down and let him get healthy cuz he’s obviously not close to 100 percent. If he is, he sucks now. 

Both them should have been 6 gamed to start...schoen prob 2x...but...desperation makes you do desperate things

[wbbfan]

35 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Man i dunno put him on kick cover and i see his body exploding into dust. I think at this point of his life his heart and mind are not aligned with the realities of what his body can no longer do and endure.

tbh if he isn’t gonna be a qb1, that’s what’s left for him. just a short yardage guy and where ever you can make use of him 

[Deiter Fan]

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

That was tongue in cheek because of the state of our offense and people blaming the backup qb because it's easy.

Oh I know. It's not like some magical coaching is gonna give him the gift or reading defences or improve the amount of time it takes him to process that info and turn him into a franchise #1. But...with the right coach I could see him improving his mechanics, even at his age. He's the kinda guy that would/could commit to putting in the work to make the change...and wind up as a serviceable backup somewhere.

If I'm not mistaken it's been mentioned here more than once that The Blue aren't really known for finding and developing QBs

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[wbbfan]

19 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

So if he's your third string QB, you're fine with paying QB 3 150k?

Fajardos base deal this year was 180k, mbt 185k. Patterson in the off season was 88k. Iirc strev was in the 100-150k range with incentives that could’ve brought him up to 300k range. 

Given all that, I think you will usually spend about 900k on your 3 qbs in the cfl right now. With starters in the 400-600 range including starting incentives. 

I think established vets, high value qb2s market is in the 175k-250k range. with fringe starters in the 200-350 range. 

Obviously how much you budget for qbs 3 will trickle down. for us, i could see elgersma getting 150-200 with incentives and opt out. While what will happen depends a lot on zachs health, I think we will likely be in a position where we want to pay for a vet qb3. 
 

So for streveler, i could see 150k, if he’s bringing enough value. which would be fairly easy if you can take the kids gloves off and use him as a full on battering ram. 

 

That said, I think one of he and zach needs to go. so if zach doesnt retire due to injury, id rather go in another direction. 

 

[johnzo]

Wanna give a HH shout-out to Brady for soloing our O.  Vintage performance, no quit.  He was the only thing we had and they still couldn't stop him for the most part.  

[bigg jay]

2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

So if he's your third string QB, you're fine with paying QB 3 150k?

Why not? Look at what we are paying for Mitchell or Jones.

[sportmentary2012]

10 hours ago, deepsixemtoboyd said:

The best quarterbacks make football look easy. Streveler makes football look incredibly difficult.

He also has a one tracked mind; run the ball is all he thinks

[ShyGuy]

I don't know what people are hoping for with Streveler. He's been here pretty much 4 complete seasons, he's had 8 career games with more TDs than interceptions, 1 career game over 300 (304!) yards passing, 7-9 as a starter. The only QBS this year with a worse efficiency than him that have taken any significant snaps are Morgan, Masoli, Walker and Shiltz. 

If you want him here as that QB Sneak guy... sure I guess but that seems expensive and tbh Wilson seemed stronger in that role last year... but he absolutely should not be the guy you have out there throwing passes. I can't think of any one who has had the start he has had to his career and then put it together, past 31, post ACL Surgery.

[SpeedFlex27]

16 hours ago, sweep the leg said:

Love Streveler, but he’s not good enough. Not sure how that can be argued. If we roll him out again next week, I might have to join the group wanting a coaching change. Find out what Wilson is now so we’ll know before the offseason. I’m not optimistic, but I’d like to see.

 

I'll be shocked if there's a change at qb if Zach can't play. C'mon, this is Osh we're talking about. 

15 hours ago, Mark H. said:

I agree that Hamilton deserves a cup. But the team's ego in 2019 was over the top.

#justdesserts

Just like Winnipeg was in 2001. Same outcome, too. 

[Brandon]

Strev is done, time to move on after this season.

 

[rebusrankin]

I'd prefer that we move on from Streveler. He's never going to be a starter. He's struggling as a backup. Hypothetically he could be a CFL Taysom Hill but I feel his salary is better spent elsewhere and I also fear that if he stays he'll be penciled in as the #2.

[3rdand1.5]

I agree with most, Strev. Looked bad.....but so did Zach for the most part......I can't fully defend Strev. but our offence has been garbage all year.....including Brady's usage. 

 

I really believe the issues are far deeper than Strevelor...far deeper

[rebusrankin]

Collaros has not been great but he has been better than Streveler.

[wbbfan]

1 minute ago, rebusrankin said:

Collaros has not been great but he has been better than Streveler.

does he have another game in him though? do we go for concussion no4 this year? 

[rebusrankin]

23 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

does he have another game in him though? do we go for concussion no4 this year? 

Oh I think no. I was just saying for QB Zach has been our best. I think we are screwed at that spot 

[Mark H.]

ZC has always needed top notch protection to be effective. He moves well but he rarely gets rid of the ball quickly. He also needs more guys who are effective downfield. This year's struggling offense is not a surprise at all. If not for warriors like Olievera and Demski, it'd be dire straits.

[Goalie]

28 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

ZC has always needed top notch protection to be effective. He moves well but he rarely gets rid of the ball quickly. He also needs more guys who are effective downfield. This year's struggling offense is not a surprise at all. If not for warriors like Olievera and Demski, it'd be dire straits.

Yup. We now have 3 guys on O tho. Brady Demski and Pokey. Sterns was also looking solid before getting hurt so 4 plus Wallace and Vanterpool and Randolph on the oline. Almost there. Another big play receiver and a couple OL should be on the off season priority list. Along with DL. 

[Booch]

12 hours ago, bigg jay said:

Why not? Look at what we are paying for Mitchell or Jones.

Or Jake....kolo...

1 hour ago, 3rdand1.5 said:

I agree with most, Strev. Looked bad.....but so did Zach for the most part......I can't fully defend Strev. but our offence has been garbage all year.....including Brady's usage. 

 

I really believe the issues are far deeper than Strevelor...far deeper

Yeah...I am of same thought...I will pass final judgement after camp...with real coordinators....some legit offensive players...all we can do really...nobody is gonna trade us their starter

[bearpants]

our lines are bad... that's why the team is bad... if you could magically make our DL and OL top notch and leave everything else as is... this team would be in the mix for 1st again...

Seriously though... what do we have to lose starting Terry Wilson next game??? Accidentally finding a good QB?

[Goalie]

12 hours ago, bigg jay said:

Why not? Look at what we are paying for Mitchell or Jones.

Mistakes shouldn’t be repeated. 

[Booch]

3 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Yup. We now have 3 guys on O tho. Brady Demski and Pokey. Sterns was also looking solid before getting hurt so 4 plus Wallace and Vanterpool and Randolph on the oline. Almost there. Another big play receiver and a couple OL should be on the off season priority list. Along with DL. 

Sterns would be perfect with that group and another legit 1a/b

There will be guys available...id even target the 2 best Canadians and go 3 Canadians and save the import spot for dline

[Goalie]

4 minutes ago, Booch said:

Or Jake....kolo...

Yeah...I am of same thought...I will pass final judgement after camp...with real coordinators....some legit offensive players...all we can do really...nobody is gonna trade us their starter

Yeah. Looking around it’s the backup in Hamilton and maybe MBT. 
 

hopefully Elgersma comes up here soon. 

Just now, Booch said:

Sterns would be perfect with that group and another legit 1a/b

There will be guys available...id even target the 2 best Canadians and go 3 Canadians and save the import spot for dline

Not an awful idea. Seems to be a few Canadians available every year. 

[Booch]

1 minute ago, bearpants said:

our lines are bad... that's why the team is bad... if you could magically make our DL and OL top notch and leave everything else as is... this team would be in the mix for 1st again...

Seriously though... what do we have to lose starting Terry Wilson next game??? Accidentally finding a good QB?

If we had a top dline...pressure defwnce and scraped the 8..9 men in coverage...even with this Canadian high-school offensive playbook...i bet we are at least a 9 win team right now

 

1 minute ago, Goalie said:

Yeah. Looking around it’s the backup in Hamilton and maybe MBT. 
 

hopefully Elgersma comes up here soon. 

Not an awful idea. Seems to be a few Canadians available every year. 

Or draft legit Canadian reciever prospects...and not these special teams only guys....anyone can play st's...

[Goalie]

Yeah not talked about enough is the D is schemed like they still have BA and Bighill running things. I’m not sure I’m a fan of the very little pressure on purpose D. It doesn’t seem to be working cuz we lack the talent. How many sacks do we have. I’d assume there are players on other teams who have more or close to what we have. That’s a problem. Younger scheme not as effective as Richie. 

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