Booch Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago On 2025-08-10 at 12:22 AM, GCn20 said: Has it really come down to us pining for Hergy Mayala. Not saying any of you are wrong about it, just kind of hits home you know. I know politics is taboo so delete if required but Premier Brad Wall is rushing a bill through his legislature before Labor Day to outlaw the reverse cowgirl position. He said he wants the fans coming from Winnipeg to know that Saskatchewan is not a province that will ever turn its back to family. I dont know...Canadian receiver who has put up two 500+ yard seasons with 5 td's...one in only 12 games....Not sure he wouldn't offer more than Corcoran...Cobb...and be nice depth...also a guy who has had made big explosion plays Don't really see Cobb or Corcoran ever being that kind of guy...if you not trying to get better and find guys...what the hell are we doing? wbbfan 1
wbbfan Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Booch said: I dont know...Canadian receiver who has put up two 500+ yard seasons with 5 td's...one in only 12 games....Not sure he wouldn't offer more than Corcoran...Cobb...and be nice depth...also a guy who has had made big explosion plays Don't really see Cobb or Corcoran ever being that kind of guy...if you not trying to get better and find guys...what the hell are we doing? Fact is, our Ni wr depth has been that bad for a long time. Corcoran has some limited use potential, woli was breaking down by the time big kev stepped up, and demski is always a struggle to stay healthy. A few years back, we invested a lot in the draft at WR, we didn't do much with those guys and ended up not really putting in that investment again. We've done a good job of re stocking NI depth at DB/Lber, but we need to get back in on DL/DE, WR and OL is always a restock position. rebusrankin 1
Super Duper Negatron Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 23 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Fact is, our Ni wr depth has been that bad for a long time. Corcoran has some limited use potential, woli was breaking down by the time big kev stepped up, and demski is always a struggle to stay healthy. A few years back, we invested a lot in the draft at WR, we didn't do much with those guys and ended up not really putting in that investment again. We've done a good job of re stocking NI depth at DB/Lber, but we need to get back in on DL/DE, WR and OL is always a restock position. You could say our recent WR drafting record has us...Jaded? Edited 4 hours ago by Super Duper Negatron wbbfan, blue85gold and rebusrankin 3
rebusrankin Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago Mayala is likely better depth than Cobb or Corcoran. TBURGESS and wbbfan 1 1
GCn20 Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 55 minutes ago, Booch said: I dont know...Canadian receiver who has put up two 500+ yard seasons with 5 td's...one in only 12 games....Not sure he wouldn't offer more than Corcoran...Cobb...and be nice depth...also a guy who has had made big explosion plays Don't really see Cobb or Corcoran ever being that kind of guy...if you not trying to get better and find guys...what the hell are we doing? Like I said. you guys are not wrong to be pining for Mayala....BUT has it really come to that? Like so many positions on our team, Walters had really done a poor job restocking the shelves. That damn O'Shea telling him not to acquire talent all the time.
JuranBoldenRules Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago We're navel gazing on the 35th roster spot when spots 1-30 are getting killed every week aside from our kickers and a couple DB's. Stickem, rebusrankin and Noeller 3
Booch Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 22 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Like I said. you guys are not wrong to be pining for Mayala....BUT has it really come to that? Like so many positions on our team, Walters had really done a poor job restocking the shelves. That damn O'Shea telling him not to acquire talent all the time. walters doesnt go out scouting save for canada college guys.....thats on his staff....and even then....we keep literally nobody new the last few yrs other than due to an injury where we forced to....so cant toss that alll on Walters. And even then Osh has his nose right in there in who we target in draft and what he likes...and its pluggers and slugs that for most part will never crack a starting lineup..... And yes...they give/gave Osh way too much say on player retention and also he picks the squad at end of day...and chose to keep washed up....aged out...and in a few instances...not good enough guys....yr after yr 23 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said: We're navel gazing on the 35th roster spot when spots 1-30 are getting killed every week aside from our kickers and a couple DB's. yeah across the board our talent is not top 3 or 4 in league.....million dollar question tho......who's to blame for it? and why? sad part a mere 4 ..5 yrs ago we were loaded top to bottom...but let many walk....kept many over their best before date hoping we could recapture the past with them, and do probably the worst job in the league in developing guys on the fly, so when it mattered most...they had experience and trust...that part of the problem is easy to pin on one guy and one guy only
GCn20 Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 56 minutes ago, Booch said: walters doesnt go out scouting save for canada college guys.....thats on his staff....and even then....we keep literally nobody new the last few yrs other than due to an injury where we forced to....so cant toss that alll on Walters. And even then Osh has his nose right in there in who we target in draft and what he likes...and its pluggers and slugs that for most part will never crack a starting lineup..... And yes...they give/gave Osh way too much say on player retention and also he picks the squad at end of day...and chose to keep washed up....aged out...and in a few instances...not good enough guys....yr after yr yeah across the board our talent is not top 3 or 4 in league.....million dollar question tho......who's to blame for it? and why? sad part a mere 4 ..5 yrs ago we were loaded top to bottom...but let many walk....kept many over their best before date hoping we could recapture the past with them, and do probably the worst job in the league in developing guys on the fly, so when it mattered most...they had experience and trust...that part of the problem is easy to pin on one guy and one guy only Baloney...Walters definitely is very involved in NAT scouting and your argument that O'Shea has too much say in player retention is more telling about the quality of Walters job than O'Shea's. Talent level of any roster is 100% on the GM. That is not even debateable. GMs build the roster, and coaches coach the roster that is assembled. If Walters is listening to O'Shea too much then that is on him. It's his job to assemble the talent not Osh's. Bottom line. 1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said: We're navel gazing on the 35th roster spot when spots 1-30 are getting killed every week aside from our kickers and a couple DB's. Been my argument here for the past 2 years, but round and around we go. Everyone was willing to overlook the fact we are hemorraghing talent because MOS apparently likes Jake Thomas. Still way too many people here blaming roster usage for our record. It's not optimal to be sure but if we are going to have a 2 year conversation and calls for dismissal of anyone, it should be the GM and even that I don't agree with. Edited 2 hours ago by GCn20
Booch Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, GCn20 said: Baloney...Walters definitely is very involved in NAT scouting and your argument that O'Shea has too much say in player retention is more telling about the quality of Walters job than O'Shea's. Talent level of any roster is 100% on the GM. That is not even debateable. GMs build the roster, and coaches coach the roster that is assembled. If Walters is listening to O'Shea too much then that is on him. It's his job to assemble the talent not Osh's. Bottom line. Been my argument here for the past 2 years, but round and around we go. Everyone was willing to overlook the fact we are hemorraghing talent because MOS apparently likes Jake Thomas. Still way too many people here blaming roster usage for our record. It's not optimal to be sure but if we are going to have a 2 year conversation and calls for dismissal of anyone, it should be the GM and even that I don't agree with. THATS what I said...Walters is involved in the National scouting...ie....Canadian draft G.M's dont build the roster...they bring in the players but DONT tell HC who to cut/retain....if thats happening your in real trouble as a franchise. So how is it telling y=that Osh keeps guysyr after yr rather than replacing them...If it's tellung anything it's saying Osh isnt held accountable to a certain degree Fact of the matter from HC up we been bumbling and stumbling and that combo has been a huge reason of our erosion and total lack of deoth and top line talent...and usually more times than not the HC is expunged before anyone.....or they clean house top to bottom....I think we need to change one of the pieces and see if that changes things for the better first....then go from there Piggy 1 1
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